ban Sanpaku

I am committed to pursuing solutions for the good of the whole community

not me, us

look, if people are going to use a decades-old music message board as their primary source of information on an ongoing public health crisis, i guess it's our collective responsibility to make sure that information is as trustworthy and reliable as possible, but can i just put in a plea for people to not use a decades-old music message board as their primary source of information on an ongoing public health crisis? thanks

Love u silby but you might desperately need to take more + longer breaks from ILX. It seems to be all-too-easily whipping you into a froth of late.

Like just to smell a flower or something, to glory in its rich perfume for a minute and reflect that, even in this imperfect world, beauty is still with us.

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A FLOWER?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIXLFDHcxpI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ht5we3qzY

Solidarity with silby.

did I forget to tell you to eat shit and fuck off forever

― college bong rip guy (silby), 8. marts 2020 00:56 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Nazi fucking freak

― college bong rip guy (silby), 8. marts 2020 00:57 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

well pig let me tell you, it's pretty cathartic

― college bong rip guy (silby), 8. marts 2020 01:02 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

about the fash pig swanning around like he's the prince of science? I won't

― college bong rip guy (silby), 8. marts 2020 01:03 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Sanpaku is an ignorant petty authoritarian wannabe brownshirt with a fetish for disaster and an obvious weakness for pseuds and charlatans, it's shocking he hasn't already started a "race science? just asking questions!" thread, I'm sick of his bullshit

― college bong rip guy (silby), 8. marts 2020 01:06 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I'm not arguing with you, I'm telling you to fuck off

― college bong rip guy (silby), 8. marts 2020 01:11 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Sanpaku I'm considering learning to fight so I can kick guys like you in the balls when they come for the Jews and trans kids, what martial art is the best for kicking you in the balls, as an expert in all human fucking knowledge

― college bong rip guy (silby), 8. marts 2020 01:14 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Honestly, I think threats of violence is over the line and not something I want to express solidarity with

I’m not gonna lose my shit at you next Fred, you suck but you aren’t a threat to society.

rushomancy otm

(both generally and specifically re advisability of using ilx as a source of actionable disaster info)

ilx has been the source of manys an actionable disaster in the past but its inadvisable to discuss em

we are all disaster experts on account of our posts

His critique of Sanpaku is broadly correct though. Probably shouldn’t be “banned,” but liberal freedoms were hard won and shouldn’t be thrown over at the first sign of trouble.

xp

'I'll kick you in the balls, Nazi fucking freak' is not 'broadly correct'. Ffs treeship, you're better than this.

Idk what do you do to Nazi freaks, Fred?

He was set off because he knows who would be in trouble if society went authoritarian, maybe especially “for the good of public health.” I actually agree with what Mordy said on that thread—there is an interesting academic discussion to be had about the potential pitfalls of democracy, but not on the pandemic thread. It seemed opportunistic.

We can all be 'set off' by stuff, but when a poster is breaking down like in the posts I quoted (seriously, they're from a twenty minute span) then the problem isn't whoever set it off. Silby needs a break.

I have to say I appreciate Sanpaku for bringing some texture and variety to things around here. I find his posts amusing at worst but never boring, and I don't really care if his posts are factually accurate (though I suspect that by and large they are) because I'm not, like, legislating or anything.

Also I'm not so suggestible that I want to pull on a hazmat suit or buy gold or whatever after reading one. My main thought is usually, "Oh, Sanpaku."

If people feel like there are nazi undercurrents to a certain poster’s logic, i don’t want to tone police their response

that's insane

I think we should talk stuff out—argue it out

seriously treeship, you're just going to be completely fine with every response, threats, harassment, abuse, as long as whatever does it claims that he thinks the other poster is a nazi?

Like, don't give the trolls any ideas, dude

I think each case is different. We know silby and should give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s upset for a reason, not just to troll

Uncritically posting something from Quillete means I’m never going to take anything the guy posts seriously, but we should engage our critical faculties on anything anyone posts; especially anyone making claims of expertise or posting in jargon.

frankly offensive to call me a troll, Fred

I don’t think sanpaku is a nazi fwiw but i also don’t think there is *nothing* behind silby’s charges. We need to let them fight it out

Hadrian VIII otm.

I wasn't referring to you there, silby, lol.

…withdrawn.

And it's exactly to create an environment where arguments can be 'fought out' that there needs to be a clampdown on harassment, bullying, abuse. And literal threats of violence should be a pretty fucking no go.

Quillette is a threat of violence

Nah. But it's a sign for me to never ever again read what a poster posts, yeah.

"learn to use killfile" good advice for more than one poster itt

I'll killfile people on web when it's built into the software and not a userscript, I don't even know if there's a good way to use userscripts in safari these days

Sanpaku has precisely one interest, which is monitoring global instability and disaster for his maximum possible advantage. Because he evidently has nothing actually going on in his life and can’t be a disaster capitalist himself, he contents himself by acting like a very wise scientist on an unpopular messageboard and speculating on how things would go better if we simply solved more problems by rounding people up and putting them into camps. His regard for human life is based entirely on a perverse utilitarian worldview where the existence of the maximum amount of humans for the maximum amount of time is the greatest good and no other considerations, ideals, human feeling, etc can possibly register to him as having value. Because he is ignorant, he credulously links to alarmist headlines calling covid “a combination of SARS and AIDS” on flimsy and idiotic pretexts and cites obvious charlatans nobody else pays any heed to as his major sources of news. Linking to Quillette, famous of late for being a hate rag and sponsoring the “journalistic” activities of agent provocateur Andy Ngo is the last straw, he’s either too stupid to know how dangerous his stupidity is or he’s actively involved in loathsome enterprises for his own enrichment and ends. Fuck Sanpaku and the horse he rode in on.

― college bong rip guy (silby), Sunday, March 8, 2020 6:24 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

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