A PS4 Thread: Because You Had to Play "Knack"

achievement: 3 of those large innocent creatures were your own children

oh wait, i can guess what it is: at the end of the game, you BECOME one of the creatures. i seriously think that's what it is

if i don't get to be a enormous creature trying to stomp on a tiny man on a horse in slow motion, i'm going to be disappointed

you get taken down by an insect

Epitaphs for malaria victims

spoilers

I didn't play at the game that long ago, but if I recall correctly the twist is that yeah, you are the asshole for killing all of these creatures for selfish purposes, despite warnings, and it turns out that that was the wrong thing to do, and you are punished for it.

most games, even iconic games, are like that, i think. they're almost like car models, with incremental upgrades and advances over the years that cross brands and genres.

the advances of shadow of the colossus were incorporated into a million other games since then, so when you go back to the original the outstanding qualities might not pop out so much.

and especially breath of the wild which will also be a "you had to be there" game in 10-15 years, mark my words

shadow of the colossus remains one of my favorite of all time game experiences but i dunno if I wanna replay it and sully that

all 3D graphics will go into the memory death hole
i do want to try this remake at some point, maybe after i go back and play Ico

thanks for the heads up that it’s on ps plus!

Just deleted it on the third boss. Fucking unbearable.

Haha, its irritating quirks are faithfully preserved. Honestly didn’t feel much frustration until the last boss.

Lot of respect to Bluepoint studios. Remaking a game is a treacherous and thankless endeavor, but they really killed it. Lot of love and care went into this. Maybe the best example of a remake you can find.

As far as influence, Breath of the Wild for sure, but also (most abused comparison but true) Dark Souls. Whole downcast lonely atmosphere, oblique storytelling, untold history revealed through ruined environments, and small but direct stuff like the little shining creatures you stumble upon who drop stuff if you’re quick enough to kill them before they disappear.

Someone posted this on another ilx thread a while back and it’s a good watch.

https://youtu.be/jQNeYbBiCKw

Mark Cerny is giving a presentation about the PS5 in half an hour, it was originally meant for GDC so is probably going to be heavy on the tech and light on the games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph8LyNIT9sg

the audio nerd part of this is pretty cool

people have tried to do 3d audio so many times, and it's interesting that they're going to go for the ear-scan tech that Sony headphones are also getting into

I'm more into this: https://www.polygon.com/2020/3/18/21185292/playstation-5-ps5-backward-compatible-ps4-pro

yeah thats not surprising, unlike previous gen-ups it's the same architecture as the ps4 so most stuff will work out of the box or with minor fixes

presumably the old games will run with the ps4 pro graphics settings

Has anyone posted an official list of the "top 100" PS4 games? It'd be good to know what won't be backwards compatible at or close to launch to focus on finishing them first.

i'd anticipate all games by major AAA developers being compatible, it'll be indie stuff and smaller budget stuff using custom engines that might not work

pretty disappointed no mention of PS1/2/3 compatibility tbh

PS2 emulation still isnt great and PS3 is a nightmare, theres no way they can guarantee that. they'll just continue doing the occasional releases of games that do work like the PS2 games that are on the PS4 store

they could do PS1 for sure though

they kind of admitted multiple times that going with a technically complex non-standard design on the PS3 was a bad idea. developer ramp-up time was bad, ability to emulate it in hardware, let alone software, is tricky... all in all, a good lesson for the industry :/

yeah you need a pretty beefy PC to emulate PS3 at consistent 30fps still, not sure if the PS5 will be beefy enough even for the games that do work

luckily most of the big games from that gen have been ported forward at this point but i get that's not the same since you can't use the disc you already have

Still want to try Tokyo Jungle :(

it is the best and deserves an update

Genuinely thought Cerny was Dana Carvey for a few seconds.

Finally got Lonely Mountain Downhill since it's on sale. So far so good

I'm having that thing of wanting to get lost in a huge game for the next few weeks, but putting it off cos I can't be bothered with the tedious first few hours of learning how everything works.

It always takes less time than you think

GT Sport so unbelievably satisfying to me rn

Haha those first few hours are always my favourite, learning how it works is the fun bit, beyond that it’s all just a big todo list.

Control, while it has some issues, was overall pretty great. I'm gonna save some thoughts for when it inevitably ends up in the yearly poll results.

I am here for any Control love.

downloaded Control and Dawn of Man.

still playing Death Stranding and trying to work out if I love love it or if it's a bit tedious over all. I like big games like this to have a lot of story, and this does have a hell of a lot of lore going on, plus lots of unexpected moments (nightmares in the Private Room are a fantastic twist), but sometimes completing standard orders and going over the same terrain over and over can feel gruelling

Control has always looked awesome, but I've been waiting for it to drop to $20 before picking it up, since I have a ton of cool stuff I've accumulated on PS4 to burn through first. Bloodborne, God of War, Spider-man, Wolfensteins, Uncharteds, Witcher 3, Event Horizon Dawn, Mad Max, Last of Us, RE2, more Alien, Sekiro, some other stuff ... just looking at that list makes me so happy.

Bloodborne, haven't played! next time i go back to the From Software well it'll probably be this or sekiro
God of War, any time you get stuck, just throw your axe at objects in the sky!
Spider-man, trying to get through life without watching or playing any spider-man. i bet it's actually pretty good but i have to keep the streak alive now
Wolfensteins, a friend of mine is obsessed with the newer reboots
Uncharteds, no! no nathan drake! fuck you nathan drake!
Witcher 3, oh hell yeah, but this one is 400+ hours long, just for the introduction
Event Horizon Dawn, one of those AAA games that i know is going to be really good and fun in some ways and also predictable in others. seems like the archetypal "play for 25 hours and quit" game, for me.
Mad Max, didn't know there was one!
Last of Us, i really need to play this, i never gave it a real shot
RE2, haven't played it since PS days
more Alien, Alieeeen!
Sekiro, Sekirooo!

finished spiderman and event horizon!.Both super fun! I like spiderman because we could shout things like "no, go to the west side! where we went kayaking that one time!" They did the city so well.

You guys trolling me with this "Event Horizon Dawn" lol.

I 100% lost interest in Spider Man, never care to play it again.

GOW is wildly overpraised.
Never want to play an Uncharted again.

I enjoy GOW well enough. We are I think halfway through. I am tired of rowing this boat.

I like to throw things in the house now and shout "Nista!"

bloodborne is amazing - in fact i replayed it just the other month.
i found spider-man staggeringly dull.
witcher is grebt but like yerman says it’s a long play
sekiro. sekiroooooo.

i kind of enjoyed GoW but it didn’t have much sticking power for me and i stopped prob about halfway thru.

i found spiderman amazingly fun and freeing; webbing your way through faux manhattan is very dreamlike

yeah i liked the speed of the character. I get annoyed sometimes with how long it takes to move sometimes in other games.

yeah spider-man rules, i had thought this was universally accepted but i guess not

just went back and did the DLC recently so it's fresh in my mind