i think the solidification of a canon in film is a bit more understandable just in terms of the amount of time people have to watch films vs the amount of time they can listen to music, and how much more music is widely available vs the availability of films. i think for some people films are more accessible now, and for others maybe less so. less access to rental stores, for one, and despite streaming options i think a lot of films just get lost in the shuffle of algorithms.
― omar little, Friday, 6 March 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link
On topic:
Paul Thomas Anderson’s Favorite Films. pic.twitter.com/0NtSf9FCAG— Films to Films (@FilmstoFilms_) March 5, 2020
― crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link
Weird punctuation.
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
big daddy
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
Weird alphabetization too.
― crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link
He's cheating there with those Jenkins rankings.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
He was having a ball in 2017.
― jmm, Friday, 6 March 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link
Confirming what I already knew from decades' worth of S&S directors' polls. Directors may know how to make movies, but they have no idea how to make lists.
― crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link
I revisited House of Games recently. It's.....fine.
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
Making lists is an art form
― college bong rip guy (silby), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link
That's the basic premise of this thread, yup.
― crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link
He put his own movie on there?
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 March 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link
Tsai ming-liang put Goodbye Dragon Inn on his last sight and sound ballot too
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link
A justifiable move.
― crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link
2001: A Space OdysseyLast Year at Marienbad8 1/2Apocalypse NowJeanne Dielman, 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 BruxellesIt’s a Wonderful LifeBlade RunnerIn the Mood for LoveThe Red ShoesAndrei Rublev
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 6 March 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link
What the hell is "the Kubrick Quartet"? Any block of four seems like a pretty arbitrary categorization.
― Alba, Friday, 6 March 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
Was wondering the same. Also, no Altman on PTA's list?
― Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
I didn't even notice that. What a dick!
― crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link
prefers John Krasinski
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:33 (four years ago) link
I'm something like 98% sure this list of movies wasn't generated from the prompt "name your all-time favorite movies, PTA."
― crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link
Warming considerably to PTA over here.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 March 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link
I googled the phrase and the Cleveland Institute of Art Cinematheque had a program called A Stanley Kubrick Quartet in January. Killer's Kiss, The Killing, Barry Lyndon and Full Metal Jacket.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, 6 March 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link
https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/paul-thomas-anderson-favorite-films-movies/
Allegedly the quartet is: Dr. Strangelove, Lolita, Full Metal Jacket, The Shining.
Which, madness.
― crusty but malignant (Eric H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 18:06 (four years ago) link
He becomes even less the good Anderson
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Friday, 6 March 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link
Regarding the conversation above re: canonization in film vs. music... I think film is inherently more democratic and universal because it has always been a popular art first. the cinema is a territory that a wider group of people share than any record store or venue. dozens upon dozens of sources and scenarios to see bands or hear their music: live concert, record store, friends bedroom, friends car, etc. but everyone m/l goes to the same movie theaters. there isn't as much aversion to "popular movies" as there is/was to "pop music" (and "popular movies" stretches from Star Wars to Schindler's List to They Shoot Horses, Don't They?). correct me if I'm wrong but I doubt many people ever said "I don't see popular movies" vs. "I don't listen to pop music."
So much of a musical education is actively seeking, groping in the dark, and discovering. One doesn't have to try as hard to seek out independent/arty/foreign cinema as say, a specific Wolf Eyes EP released in 2002. who would Bergman's equivalent be in the rockist canon? Lou Reed?I agree that, at least in my experience, film fans are more open, convivial, and understanding than Fugazi punks or w/e
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:00 (four years ago) link
I'll give this a go, why not
HARD BOILED (Woo)THE THIRD MAN (Reed)BEAU TRAVAIL (Denis)VERTIGO (Hitchcock)LONDON (Keiller)FUNNY GAMES (Haneke)TO LIVE AND DIE IN LA (Friedkin)TOTAL RECALL (Verhoeven)AMERICAN PSYCHO (Harron)THIS IS SPINAL TAP (Reiner)
― Neil S, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link
American Psycho, ok flex on them
when Buttigieg was still in the race, I couldn't stop thinking of Patrick Bateman's "woke speech" early on in the movie & book.
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link
My recollection of House of Games was great script and character actors, let down by the lead and cinematography/production design. I wouldn't mind a remake.
― sedated, paralyzed, on respirator, slowly drowning (Sanpaku), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
xp: Buttigieg + "Well, we have to end apartheid for one..." found its way onto my feed months ago...
― sedated, paralyzed, on respirator, slowly drowning (Sanpaku), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link
PTA not having a Scorsese or Altman film on there is either comically brazen or comically delusional.
― clemenza, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link
I thought The Master inclusion played the comic role.
― sedated, paralyzed, on respirator, slowly drowning (Sanpaku), Friday, 6 March 2020 23:39 (four years ago) link
Where is that list from, anyway? it's not his S&S ballot
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link
I don't want to sound like I take umbrage or anything; as I said (or tried to say) above, lists are lists, and--to quote someone who's nowhere near my own--everyone has their reasons. I was just thinking of Magnolia in relation to Altman, and Boogie Nights in relation to Scorsese (he does list I Am Cuba, so he's not playing hide-and-seek with his influences).
― clemenza, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link
that list reads like someone asked him what his favorite movies of the moment were. there's so much from the last couple years, anyway where did it come from
― flappy bird, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link
― clemenza, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:36 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
qft
― Alain the Botton (jed_), Saturday, 7 March 2020 01:15 (four years ago) link
Should people like their influences?
― college bong rip guy (silby), Saturday, 7 March 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link
He has more movies from 2017 than movies made before 1964
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Saturday, 7 March 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link
Not from 2017 on just from 2017
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Saturday, 7 March 2020 01:57 (four years ago) link
I had look up qft--yes, quantum field theory, that's exactly what I had in mind! I would think normally a director or writer or musician would like his or her influences? I mean, it's not a rule or anything, but it doesn't seem like a far-fetched assumption. Anyway, again, it really and truly doesn't bother me at all. Just caught my attention and seemed a little odd. Maybe Altman made his 35th favorite film and Scorsese his 36th. (Loved seeing Jaws there. Maybe he'll resurrect that franchise, with Joaquin Phoenix as Sheriff Brody.)
― clemenza, Saturday, 7 March 2020 03:22 (four years ago) link
qft = quoted for truth
the list obviously isn't comprehensive
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 March 2020 03:47 (four years ago) link
(Using my own detective skills, I actually thought it meant "quit fucking talking"...)
― clemenza, Saturday, 7 March 2020 03:51 (four years ago) link
the list is just culled randomly by indiewire from interviews and comments over the years
https://www.indiewire.com/gallery/paul-thomas-anderson-favorite-films-movies/the-birdcage-1996-3/
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 March 2020 04:05 (four years ago) link
a taste of honey (richardson, 1961)chimes at midnight (welles, 1965)vagabond (varda, 1985)modern times (chaplin, 1936)a girl walks home alone at night (amirpour, 2014)2001: a space odyssey (kubrick, 1968)valerie and her week of wonders (jireš, 1970)daisies (chytilová, 1966)his girl friday (hawks, 1940)an angel at my table (campion, 1990)
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 7 March 2020 04:25 (four years ago) link
Girl Walks etc is a powerful pick
― college bong rip guy (silby), Saturday, 7 March 2020 04:30 (four years ago) link
i saw it for the first time just a few months ago and was blown away by how much i liked it. virtually a silent film for long stretches, but just incredibly visually powerful and haunting.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 7 March 2020 04:36 (four years ago) link
PTA establishing himself with films that ripped off Scorsese and Altman was comically brazen
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:48 (four years ago) link
(his recent Kubrick-Hitchcock phase is far more muted)
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 7 March 2020 05:49 (four years ago) link
PTA has remained horny as well
― flappy bird, Saturday, 7 March 2020 06:26 (four years ago) link
Maybe now IS the time to do this!
― coronoshebettadontvirus (Eric H.), Friday, 13 March 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link
yes
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 13 March 2020 17:24 (four years ago) link