should other people have different opinions?

I was tempted to start a 'when's the last time you changed your mind about something'...probably specific to politics. It's not so much having your mind 'changed' tho is it? More being...persuaded or convinced about something you previously were too ignorant about or unaware of to take a solid position on.

Mostly yes, I think so, or about something specific, where its clear someone says something and you think oh yeah good point. But in a binary sense of "im going to completely change how i see things" then no thats much rarer and is more likely to be a gradual process taking years

I think the more fundamental differences aren't really that much to do with opinion but the worlds we see. My right wing cousin believes the 'Democrats support open borders', which is demonstrably false but only if you look at it through the lens of literal truth rather than 'underlying' truth. His definition of 'democrats support own borders' is much more flexible and malleable, he doesn't experience things in that way. I don't know what his definition of it is because he won't say, he can't put it into words, nevertheless he knows it to be true and to point out that it isn't is pedantry in his eyes

To put this another way in a contrived sense, if I knock a glass off a window sill but it hasn't hit the ground below, in a literal sense the glass is whole and isn't smashed, but in an underlying way its completely smashed. We're experiencing the world in different ways through different lenses

This has drifted over to brainworm thread territory, but the point is that we don't share a context enough to even have differences of opinion

The 'pre-hearing' thing I think is important too. The reason my cousin can never tell me what I've just said correctly is because he has pre-heard me. I try as much as possible not to factor in what people have said before but base it more on what they are saying right now. To try and un-pre-hear as much as possible. Does it always work, no of course not! Its an approach, which can succeed or fail like any other.

I don't really want to hear statements of opinion in general so much as ppl sharing some thinking. conclusions are meaningless otherwise, only the workings are worthy of respect

not to suggest I don't enjoy meaninglessness, or things that aren't overdetermined

I'm cool with different opinions as long as they're expressed in haiku or koan form (overlap is encouraged).

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Nice. This is how you do it, people.

What is the sound of one hand fapping?

I missed you pom and so did the guess the city thread

Thanks! I'll be sure to check it out, although I suspect it's not a game I'd be very good at.

Welcome back Pom, missed you as well! You otoh only "missed" the usual US politics freak-out, trolling and crying, so I envy you.

Thew new Vladislav Delay album though, don't miss out on that one! :)

<3

Some friends came to visit us from abroad right before our great leap back across the Atlantic, so playing host took precedence. That said, the drama appears to have been quite juicy even at a retrospective glance.

Will listen to the new VD today or tomorrow. I hope he'll resurrect some of his other monikers as well, especially Uusitalo.

Please let us not call it 'the new VD'

Valentine's Day? Virtual Desktop? Vaginal Delivery?

Ah shit, have I just revealed something unfortunate about my google history?

lol

Anyway, I think we can all agree that different hipinions are always bad.

foh 😂🤣