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Morrison and the LNP government have announced that they will be defunding and closing the Bushfire and Natural Hazard Cooperative Research Centre established under the previous Labor government, a few days after the centre published a report on a conference analysis re: Are we ready for cascading extreme weather hazards beyond our experience?.

The conference was held immediately before six months of cascading extreme weather hazards.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 07:05 (four years ago) link

LNP: the Bureau of Meteorology is a hoax

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link

January 6 2020: Morrison announces

Bushfire recovery will take priority over the budget surplus in a mammoth federal program starting with a $2 billion fund that could surge in size over the next few years to rebuild after the summer crisis.

Cash payments are being promised immediately to help families, employers and local councils to recover from the bushfires, with the outlays expected to trim the budget surplus this year by $500 million.

March 2 2020: the government admits that this fund does not exist at all, let alone that it could surge in size, and argue that this doesn't matter because it was always notional. When a senator explains that "notional" means "imaginary," they withdraw the statement and ask for time to look up the word and submit another meaning in writing later.

(5 farmers have been issued loans.)



January 19 2020: the goverment announces that $76 million will be taken from the $2 billion fund in order to protect and restore the tourism industry in the wake of the bushfires (if they ever end).

(https://www.sbs.com.au/news/federal-government-rolls-out-76-million-tourism-package-in-wake-of-bushfires)

March 5 2020: the tourism industry is told there will be no financial support to help them weather impact of the coronavirus, which is already three times larger than the impact of the bushfires.

(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/06/tourism-industry-calls-for-coronavirus-support-in-addition-to-bushfire-package)

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 6 March 2020 02:27 (four years ago) link

I worry that your posts itt are causing me to overappreciate other government's responses!

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 6 March 2020 08:28 (four years ago) link

hey, they can respond when it's urgent: before entering parliament, the Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction set up a fake company in the Cayman Islands to "protect internationally significant wetlands from dying" by selling water to the government, and three years ago the government paid this one company (started in a tax haven by a government minister) $80 million dollars for water that does not exist.

This week, as the wetlands are still endangered, they're looking into giving it another $2 million for water.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done Angus.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Saturday, 7 March 2020 01:31 (four years ago) link

https://www.ftm.nl/dutch-multinationals-funded-climate-sceptic

The Netherlands' leading climate denier died in 2008, and was an inveterate hoarder archivist. Researchers going through his SIXTEEN METER HIGH stack of papers have found detailed records on how Shell, Bayer and other corps paid him €500K over nine years to undermine public belief in climate change, and humanity’s role in it.

The Managing director of Shell, Huub Van Engelshoven, personally commissioned him from 1989.

Böttcher used the money to set up an international network of climate sceptics. He produced multiple reports, books and opinion pieces. In these he wrote, for instance, that the greenhouse effect doesn’t exist and that CO2 is not dangerous, quite the opposite: it’s ‘good for plants’.

The doubt created led, among other things, to a lack of political support for regulatory measures with regard to CO2 reduction during the 1990s.

His 24 sponsors finally stopped funding him in 1998, when they concluded that the signing of the Kyoto Protocol had created a tipping point at which flat denial was no longer viable.

Doctorow: "We know who his political allies were: the VVD party. When the Netherlands' dikes fail and the country begins to drown, these politicians might still be running for office."

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Saturday, 7 March 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link

There are still multiple contained and uncontained fires in the state of Victoria, Australia, including a peat fire.

The Labor premier of Victoria has today lifted a moratorium on onshore gas exploration, with drilling and extraction to begin from July 2021.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 05:14 (four years ago) link

sneaked that one out, the fucker.

Meanwhile Zalli Stegall has paused her climate change bill.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 05:17 (four years ago) link

multiple contained and uncontained fires in the state of Victoria, Australia

Although the last of the fires in neighbouring New South Wales was extinguished after a fortnight of torrential rain suppressed most of them, and another two weeks of effort by firefighters on the reduced blazes. Thus ending 240 days of uncontrolled fires in the state. Maybe the rain will also have softened up the ground for the fracking that got licensed a few months ago?

Meanwhile, in the next state up the coast, documents and video have leaked from the Indian-owned Adani mining company, revealing that their announced plans to export 10 million tonnes of coal at first, expanding to 27 million tonnes over time are a cover for plans to export 40 million tonnes at first, expanding to ONE HUNDRED MILLION TONNES, nearly double the limit to which they are regulated.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Thursday, 19 March 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

"Reminder that (the firefighters) are still volunteers, without breathing masks, taking unpaid time off work"

Except for the ones that are unemployed: they have had their benefits cut off because they have not been actively seeking work. (The dole has not been raised in 25 years, incidentally. Housing prices have roughly quadrupled in Sydney in that time.)

― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Friday, January 3, 2020 9:20 AM (two months ago)

now that the firefighters can go back to applying for jobs and thus qualify for the dole, it was raised today: by 48c a day.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Friday, 20 March 2020 07:12 (four years ago) link

Scott Morrison has launched a high-paid National COVID-19 Co-ordination Commission, to advise the government on appropriate actions to take. It comprises:

- Morrison's departmental secretary
- the Minister for Fascism's departmental secretary
- the head of the Finance Department
- the Managing Director of a Hong Kong-owned company that bought large parts of Australia's electricity supply when they were privatised, and operates gas and coal stations in three of Australia's five states
- the former CEO of Australia's national telecommunications agency, who oversaw it being privatised
- the 73-year-old former owner of a trucking company, who is worth $880 million
- one former elected member of Parliament

and is headed by a former mining magnate, who was in the news three weeks ago for the amount of insider trading he has done this year, buying up shares of a gas drilling and pipeling company of which he is deputy chairman.



Here is a list of the doctors, epidemiologists, nurses, scientists and hospital administrators on the commission:

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link

Due to Coronavirus, the US Forest Service is "canceling prescribed burns across the West, potentially making the upcoming fire season worse."

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Thursday, 26 March 2020 07:13 (four years ago) link

cool cool cool

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 March 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link

"The federal government is pushing for expansions of coal mines to keep people in work, amid expectations that hundreds of thousands of people will lose their jobs due to the economic slump caused by COVID-19."

https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/coal-mine-expansion-even-more-important-20200324-p54dcx

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Friday, 27 March 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link

Their fucking answer for everything. How about employing them to install solar or mine any of the other things that are in the ground in Australia (Lithium, Nickel, Cobalt, Graphite ...)

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 27 March 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link

Due to the coronavirus, Parliament is not sitting until August.

Therefore, opposition MPs are not able to question the government government on, today, approving ten years of logging native forests in Victoria, or yesterday approving coal mining underneath the Greater Sydney reservoir, which supplies water for the most populous region on the continent.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 05:26 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Fantastic.Great move. Well done Angus.

Energy Minister @AngusTaylorMP struggling to explain why buying currently cheap oil to meet IEA strategic reserve guidelines (which we never met before) makes sense despite proposing to keep it in facilities inconveniently placed on the other side of the planet in the US.

🤦‍♂️ pic.twitter.com/HTXkWPkaoI

— Anthony Pesec - staying safe at home! (@anthonypesec) April 22, 2020

donald failson (sic), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 07:51 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The dickheads are circling.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 May 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link

Not that the media is a big threat to fossil fuel in normal times, but they are so absorbed by the pandemic right now that every barrier to corruption is down.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

Which outlets do you think would normally be covering the above, that are distracted by the pandemic instead?

Elon's musk (sic), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

Scott Morrison has launched a high-paid National COVID-19 Co-ordination Commission, to advise the government on appropriate actions to take. It comprises:

- Morrison's departmental secretary
- the Minister for Fascism's departmental secretary
- the head of the Finance Department
- the Managing Director of a Hong Kong-owned company that bought large parts of Australia's electricity supply when they were privatised, and operates gas and coal stations in three of Australia's five states
- the former CEO of Australia's national telecommunications agency, who oversaw it being privatised
- the 73-year-old former owner of a trucking company, who is worth $880 million
- one former elected member of Parliament

and is headed by a former mining magnate, who was in the news three weeks ago for the amount of insider trading he has done this year, buying up shares of a gas drilling and pipeling company of which he is deputy chairman.

Here is a list of the doctors, epidemiologists, nurses, scientists and hospital administrators on the commission:

― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:00 AM (one month ago)

Good news, everybody! Turns out that the high-paid National COVID-19 Co-ordination Commission that is staffed almost entirely with fossil fuel millionaires or stooges and contains no doctors or scientists has determined that the best way to recover from COVID-19 is to sell and burn a fuckload more fossil fuels than we're already selling and burning!

Elon's musk (sic), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 05:30 (three years ago) link

high-paid

The head of the committee, who is the director and shareholder of an oil & gas company in his day job, is being paid $500,000 for six months work, plus private jet travel.

https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/paddy-manning/2020/13/2020/1589348161/notice

The other commissioners are being paid only $364,000 on top of their own day jobs.

The processes of this taxpayer-funded commission are not open to the public.

Bleeqwot (sic), Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link

Fucking Taylor was on RN this morning saying ‘technology not taxation’ whilst this was leaking.

I am livid.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 21 May 2020 10:22 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

March 5 2020: the tourism industry is told there will be no financial support to help them weather impact of the coronavirus, which is already three times larger than the impact of the bushfires.

wonder if there's been any further economic impact from the coronavirus since then. probably not, right?

anyway, if there had been, at least there's a solid roadmap for recovery:

Good news, everybody! Turns out that the high-paid National COVID-19 Co-ordination Commission that is staffed almost entirely with fossil fuel millionaires or stooges and contains no doctors or scientists has determined that the best way to recover from COVID-19 is to sell and burn a fuckload more fossil fuels than we're already selling and burning

that's a relief, now that we know how few new coal mines were approved during the first few months of the bushfires, when there was reason to be cautious. thank goodness the brakes can be taken off in the next quarter!

https://i.imgur.com/E4GHnHF.png

bat ain't Thad (sic), Sunday, 12 July 2020 06:34 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

News Corp is not merely biased against Labor and in favour of the Liberals. This underestimates the international nature of the franchise. It is a series of multi-platform metastases that endanger minorities – sexual, racial and religious – all over the world.

― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Thursday, January 9, 2020 9:31 PM (six months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Phoah.

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Monday, 27 July 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

Should be block quote, apologies. Sauce.

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Monday, 27 July 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

100 climate scientists from 20 countries have returned from a sea journey concluding that we're seeing the final summers of ice in the Arctic.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 05:04 (three years ago) link

The Arctic is rich in natural resources like fossil fuel and already under significant climate stress, warming more than twice as fast as the rest of the planet. The more the Arctic warms and melts, the more humans build industrial infrastructure, mine metals and produce oil and gas–emitting greenhouse gases that accelerate the warming and melting.

It would be interesting to conduct some psychological case studies of local residents of the area to see how they're coping with this. I suspect we might be able to find some of the same profiles in residents of Aus...

No mention of clathrates that I see though, which was some scientists were concerned about about ten years ago but I haven't seen it mentioned that much recently. Generally seems like thermokarst is a bigger concern, with the evidence clear to the eye at ground level.

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 08:28 (three years ago) link

If you're wondering "Do they sleep?" ...I don't, I don't sleep. Much, at least. (Not just this keeping me up, but in general. Gotta admit after yesterday reading through this whole thread which is like some tragic farce, it was a bit much as I was winding down for the evening. Can't imagine what it was like to live through that.)

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 08:32 (three years ago) link

I'm afraid that them moving past outright denial isn't necessarily any kind of progress on the issue

A question about climate change/global warming.

A question about climate change/global warming.

https://i.imgur.com/FdUfjRd.jpg

Steppin' RZA (sic), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link

Good news, everybody! Turns out that the high-paid National COVID-19 Co-ordination Commission that is staffed almost entirely with fossil fuel millionaires or stooges and contains no doctors or scientists has determined that the best way to recover from COVID-19 is to sell and burn a fuckload more fossil fuels than we're already selling and burning!

Update: we don't even need to sell gas to solve COVID recovery, the government should just give money directly to the fossil fuel companies.

'A presentation on the final report of the National COVID-19 Co-ordination Commission manufacturing taskforce, seen by The Age and The SMH, recommends "cutting red and green tape" to help the gas industry rapidly increase gas extraction and create up to 170,000 manufacturing jobs.'

The final report of the National COVID-19 Co-ordination Commission’s manufacturing working group has called for a relaxation of gas industry regulations and calls for the Morrison government to consider more tax incentives for the construction of new projects.

One of the recommendations of the working group is that the federal government should “underwrite demand” for gas, agreeing to purchase gas in a situation where the market is oversupplied. This from an industry lobby that has constantly argued that there is a supply shortfall.

With gas companies recording a series of project delays and massive write-downs of the value of existing investments, which have already totalled almost $20 billion in Australia alone, Greenpeace Australia Pacific said that taxpayers shouldn’t be left to foot the bill.

“Whichever way you look at it, gas is an industry in decline, with billions of dollars in write-downs around the world due to the renewable energy boom. Wasting public money on the polluting industries of the past rather than the modern renewable technology of today is an abuse of public trust,” Greenpeace Australia Pacific campaigner Jonathan Moylan said.

Two months ago:
The processes of this taxpayer-funded commission are not open to the public.

Yesterday:

On Monday, prime minister Scott Morrison announced that he was reconstituting the National Covid Coordination Commission as a body that reports directly to the federal cabinet.

“The COVID Commission will work within government. It won’t be an external agency. It will work within government and can form part of the Cabinet deliberative processes, which is an important innovation,” Morrison said.

The change is likely to further reduce the transparency and public visibility of what the Commission is advising government, as cabinet deliberations are not released to the public and are generally exempt from freedom of information laws.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 06:13 (three years ago) link

BP spilled 95 tonnes of crude oil off the Shetland Isles, due to not having completed writing a "safety procedures" document when setting up a new well, and therefore not having safety procedures to follow.

After four years of investigation, the local court has concluded that this was bad, and fined them £7,000.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link

Some steak dinners being had by BP lawyers tonight I guess

Fucking shameless

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

Oh sorry, I misread that - they spilled 7 tonnes of crude oil and were fined £95,000.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 30 July 2020 12:01 (three years ago) link

^ not true, but it's great that even that would be insanely fucked

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 30 July 2020 12:02 (three years ago) link

Two months ago:

The processes of this taxpayer-funded commission are not open to the public.

Yesterday:

On Monday, prime minister Scott Morrison announced that he was reconstituting the National Covid Coordination Commission as a body that reports directly to the federal cabinet.

...

The change is likely to further reduce the transparency and public visibility of what the Commission is advising government, as cabinet deliberations are not released to the public and are generally exempt from freedom of information laws.

Today, in response to freedom of information requests:

"The prime minister’s department refused to publicly release 1,100 documents linked to the Covid-19 commission’s discussion of gas projects and 690 documents about potential conflicts of interest, while also redacting its meeting minutes on economic and national security grounds."

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2020/8/12/21361498/climate-change-air-pollution-us-india-china-deaths

The evidence is now clear enough that it can be stated unequivocally: It would be worth freeing ourselves from fossil fuels even if global warming didn’t exist. Especially now that clean energy has gotten so cheap, the air quality benefits alone are enough to pay for the energy transition.

...

Shindell’s testimony reveals that the effects of air pollution are roughly twice as bad as previously estimated. That is a bombshell — in a sane world, it would be front-page news across the country.

“The air quality scientific community has hypothesized this for at least a decade, but research advances have let us quantify and confirm this notion, over and over,” says Rebecca Saari, an air quality expert who teaches in civil and environmental engineering at the University of Waterloo. “The air quality ‘co-benefits’ are generally so valuable that they exceed the cost of climate action, often many times over.”

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 13 August 2020 04:58 (three years ago) link

thank you for that link, sic

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 13 August 2020 08:27 (three years ago) link

The Hammersmith Bridge in London has been closed due to climate change: increased heat has exacerbated a crack to the point of emergency.

A tweet thread from climate futurist Alex Steffen on the Brittleness Bubble:

The Brittleness Bubble is far, far bigger than we're acknowledging.

A staggering percentage of the world's critical infrastructure is now entering a world where climate conditions routinely exceed the tolerances for which that infrastructure was designed. https://t.co/chIOcoZ4Gw

— Alex Steffen (@AlexSteffen) August 13, 2020

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 14 August 2020 08:50 (three years ago) link

TBF even if it is the canary in the coalmine the Hammersmith bridge has always been a shit bridge.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Friday, 14 August 2020 09:56 (three years ago) link

It looks so nice though!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 14 August 2020 09:59 (three years ago) link

It’s been falling down and in an almost constant state of repair since they built it.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Friday, 14 August 2020 10:07 (three years ago) link

it does seem to be closed more than it's open

if you walk across it you can see the individual wooden planks that are the base of the road

https://www.reelstreets.com/wp-content/uploads/Films/repulsion/re022.jpg

koogs, Friday, 14 August 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

(http://movie-tourist.blogspot.com/2012/07/repulsion-1965.html)

koogs, Friday, 14 August 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

Great news, everyone! We're way ahead of schedule

Apparently this event was modeled as the *worst case scenario* in 2050 and it is happening right now. This is real sublime terror, this is an abyss, I don't know what this means. https://t.co/PgI1TvrNqv

— blue lives splatter 📉 (@postcyborg) August 16, 2020

poparse's eye (sic), Sunday, 16 August 2020 10:21 (three years ago) link

Scientists aren't holding back on the science in our papers. Why would we? (IPCC summaries are another matter.) But in public it's "Here are some graphs" and the language is constrained. In private over beers it's "We're fucked."

— Peter Kalmus is the People's Climate Scientist (@ClimateHuman) August 8, 2020

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 August 2020 10:23 (three years ago) link

The last 12.000 years. pic.twitter.com/5KAnqmO2Tv

— Alexander Radtke (@alxrdk) August 16, 2020

poparse's eye (sic), Monday, 17 August 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link

*sigh*

Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 17 August 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link


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