END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

But, don't they want to stick it to The Man?

what would that % be if everyone eligible voted?

18 - 34 demographic is ~21% of population (US Census, 2010), so best guess for 18 - 29 is ca. 16%. If 13% of the overall election turnout of a is under 29, I’ll be a monkey’s uncle because it means young people are turning out in droves.

yeah thats my point - though this is a dem primary not the general so there should be a bit of a skew younger than the general population

iirc exit polls generally trend older?

well maybe that number ain't as bad as I thought but still, I think a lot about that article that argues that Bernie will need to up youth turnout by 30% to beat Trump in the general, and if they don't turn out on Super Tuesday...

Also young people vote later (or vote before Election Day).

youth turnout delivering a presidential victory has never happened and it will never happen

Your fault for paying attention to anything sanpaku posts.

? I generally disregard sanpaku posts tbh

oh yeah i'm not worried at all about info from exit polls

That was an x-post to the 'youth turnout has to rise 30%' thing

i have never even seen an exit pollster let alone be polled myself

Minority turnout matters way more than youth and Latinx voters will outnumber black voters in 2020 IIRC - which if you want some upside is that we're down to the two contenders who actually have some appeal to POC.

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— tarriet hubgirl (@scatacomb) March 3, 2020

The inability of Sanders to move minority voting beyond a few points at most worries me a great deal. Most students at my university who identify as liberal t18-30 are Sanders fans and have said so, but I wonder if the aggregate around the country is enough. It infuriates me because the non-Sanders people I know looooove to make fun of how shallow his support is.

A few points matters - the drop in support in 2016 vs 2012 was like 7% for black voters and less than that for Latinx voters.

FWIW, 50% of the Latinx vote in Nevada went to Sanders. Only one data point, but tomorrow we'll know if there's a trend.

Hey have you heard about the Nevada Caucus results? Big landslide victory for sanders buoyed by... 50% of the Latinx vote. pic.twitter.com/HJZ7QWgnNu

— James 💐 (@plesiosocialism) February 27, 2020

Also FWIW, for the past six weeks we've been canvassing/phoning folks here in the forgotten parts of the San Gabriel & Pomona Valleys here in LA (Monrovia, Duarte, El Monte, Pomona, etc.) - large mix of middle/working-class Asians and Latinx and everyone we talked to was a Sanders supporter. Quite a few times we were told that we were the only campaign that had reached out to them.

bernie_sanders

warren supporters locking their accounts like they saw a black guy across the street

— i did it all for tanuki (@Lowenaffchen) March 4, 2020

nb: no POC support Warren**

**as imagined by xyzzzz__

bummed

Just posting funnies!

There are lots of reasons why Sanders is behind now but, "people were too mean to a subset of college-educated progressives, the protagonists of the Democratic primary, on this website" isn't one of them and the narcissism of this entire genre of commentary remains stunning.

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) March 4, 2020

xp

Latino voters under 30 years old in California via @CNN:

Sanders 84% (!!)
Warren 6%
Biden 5%
Everyone else 4%

— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) March 4, 2020

Despite being frail and confused he won the trust of an oligarchic party nomenklatura in a decaying superpower by promising no structural reforms, no curbs on special interests or changes to an interventionist, hegemonic and overextended foreign policy. pic.twitter.com/qtqGbDZbym

— Ben Judah (@b_judah) March 4, 2020

NPR brought on actual spy Alan Gross, who was busted in a covert US intelligence mission to subvert Cuba, to smear Sanders as a Castro dupe. NPR described Gross as a “humanitarian aide worker”—his cover.
The oligarchy’s knives are out, they’re just getting started

— Mark Ames (@MarkAmesExiled) March 4, 2020

cool links here:

http://berniesanders.com/call
http://berniesanders.com/text

@Lowenaffchen
warren supporters locking their accounts like they saw a black guy across the street

half the Warren supporters I know are POC but anyway, now it's Bernie or despair

on the plus side: if Warren's Bloomberg stomping really did have an effect, it's proof that debates matter, and Bernie will have a chance to demolish Biden if he's willing to finally get mean. no more old nice guy shit.

no more old nice guy shit.

lmao

because truly what alienates non-Sanders voters is that he's "too nice"

lemme know if you want pics of the inspiring exterior of Bernie's Oakland HQ -- it's right across the street from an office I'm working out of a few times a week atm

(it used to be a pretty decent pizza by the slice place that closed a year or so ago, that before I think was a Burger King)

because truly what alienates non-Sanders voters is that he's "too nice"

maybe not non-Sanders ppl, but this is a criticism I regularly hear from fans! he didn't say a single negative word about Warren for instance, even when she was ripping him him regularly.

*him up

I actually admired him more for that tbh

I don't think keeping clear of Warren hurt him (and her attacking him didn't help her at all), but he can't be anywhere near as hands-off with Joe.

considering what Joe does with his hands, no doubt!

he's nicer than Shakey

because truly what alienates non-Sanders voters is that he's "too nice"
maybe not non-Sanders ppl, but this is a criticism I regularly hear from fans! he didn't say a single negative word about Warren for instance, even when she was ripping him him regularly.

What is this line of logic? Sanders is a cranky cantankerous old coot - nobody BUT his supporters thinks he’s “nice.” But he gets away with it, cus shouty-crabapple is his brand.

Nobody thinks Warren is nice either, but she’s regularly called to task for it b/c woman.

His style of delivery might be abrasive but he's run an exceptionally positive campaign in terms of not going directly after his opponents. (Other than Bloomberg, but fuck him.)

Yeah, fair.

Isn't it because he keeps calling Biden my friend Joe and didn't really say anything about Warren?

hasnt that i know of called anyone

sorry, everyone

a "cunt mel" yet

melt, obv

it may already be in the works but it would be good if bernie takes his massive mailing list and does analysis on why young people who are/are not interested in politics/a candidate fail to vote when it comes time.

xp - is Fred your sock?

Bernie might not have been going after anyone, but people he has hired has, and there's an entire mediasphere swirling around him that has been ripping everyone but him to shreds. He hasn't had to. So I doubt anyone outside the bubble thinks his campaign has just been too darn positive.

He is mine