JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

Has anybody mentioned - or seen - the recently PBS Miles David documentary?

I saw it. I didn't like it. Some of the early stuff was interesting, but it basically fast-forwarded from 1969 to his death, and (a major crime in my book) the 1973-75 band that made Dark Magus, Agharta and Pangaea was completely omitted. Also, the idea to have some actor read passages from Davis's autobiography in a really corny laryngitis voice should have been dumped at the first concept meeting.

Yeah, over the weekend. Pretty meh. Too much territory to cover in 110 minutes so it's just shallow, shallow. And PBS bleeps the cusswords. -- xp

I wish they'd done it in two parts like HBO's Sinatra documentary - two hours to cover 1945-1968, and two hours for 1969-1991.

Big ol' bunch of bullshit.

lol hi stanley

it's hard to picture coltrane allowing a release with a title and cover as on the nose as this

1. what does this mean
2. "om" was a posthumous release

(many xps to man alive)

this bit from a Shirley Collins interview reminded me of this thread:

When I read your autobiography, you said that you didn’t like jazz when Ashley Hutchings played it for you. I have to ask what about it you dislike, if you’re okay with that.

Well it just makes me fidget. I just feel so fidgety. I don’t like the way people look when they’re listening to jazz. I don’t like the way people look when they’re playing jazz. I don’t like the sound of it. I don’t like the tunelessness and the tonelessness, I can’t hear it. It just doesn’t make any impression on me at all, except to irritate me. And they wear silly hats. I know I wrote that in the book, because it’s true, I just don’t like it. I like boogie-woogie, I like Jimmy Yancey, and I love the blues, but then they go and spoil it by playing jazz (laughs). Nobody’s perfect.

I can’t help it, you know? I’m sure a lot of people feel the same way about folk music, maybe it drives them nuts as well.

meh

Next time these will be the results
http://jazz100.sffjazz.com/top100.html

^^^ needs more swing imo.

hey pom looks like reddit ran their own jazz poll

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jazz/comments/8r3zcb/the_rjazz_top_100_album_results/

Reddit Poll Results

With 80 Contributors nearly 2,000 votes and a total of 776 album submissions, it becomes clear that our musical preferences vary greatly. These are the top 100(ish) albums we were able to come together and agree on being something special.

-104. Takuya Kuroda - Rising Son (2014) 4 Votes

-103. We Like It Here - Snarky Puppy (2014) 4 Votes

-102. The Imagined Savior is Far Easier to Paint- Ambrose Akinmusire (2014) 4 Votes

-101. Nostalgia at Times Square - Charles Mingus (1993) 4 Votes

-100. Concierto - Jim Hall (1975) 4 Votes

-99. On the Corner - Miles Davis (1972) 4 Votes

-98. Science Fiction - Ornette Coleman (1972) 4 Votes

-97. Now He Sings, Now He Sobs - Chick Corea (1968) 4 Votes

-96. Machine Gun - Peter Brotzmann (1968) 4 Votes

-95. Speak Like a Child - Herbie Hancock (1968) 4 Votes

-94. Adam’s Apple - Wayne Shorter (1967) 4 Votes

-93. Unit Structures - Cecil Taylor (1966) 4 Votes

-92. Search for New Land - Lee Morgan (1966) 4 Votes

-91. A Charlie Brown Christmas - Vince Guaraldi (1965) 4 Votes

-90. Smokin’ at the Half Note - Wes Montgomery (1965) 4 Votes

-89. Mingus, Mingus, Mingus, Mingus, Mingus - Charles Mingus (1963) 4 Votes

-88. Caravan - Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers (1963) 4 Votes

-87. Tijuana Moods - Charles Mingus (1962) 4 Votes

-86. Live at the Village Vanguard - John Coltrane (1962) 4 Votes

-85. Free Jazz - Ornette Coleman (1961) 4 Votes

-84. This is Our Music - Ornette Coleman (1961) 4 Votes

-83. The Blanton Webster Band - Duke Ellington (Recorded 1940- 1942) 4 Votes

-82. Earfood - Roy Hargrove (2008) 5 Votes

-81. Scenery - Ryo Fukui (1976) 5 Votes

-80. Thrust - Herbie Hancock (1974) 5 Votes

-79. Mingus at Antibes - Charles Mingus (1974) 5 Votes

-78. Let My Children Hear Music - Charles Mingus (1972) 5 Votes

-77. Tribute to Jack Johnson - Miles Davis (1971) 5 Votes

-76. The Real McCoy - McCoy Tyner (1967) 5 Votes

-75. Straight, No Chaser - Thelonious Monk (1967) 5 Votes

-74. Spiritual Unity - Albert Ayler (1965) 5 Votes

-73. Coltrane’s Sound - John Coltrane (1964) 5 Votes

-72. Page One - Joe Henderson (1963) 5 Votes

-71. The Clown - Charles Mingus (1957) 5 Votes

-70. Super Sonic Jazz - Sun Ra (1957) 5 Votes

-69. Chet Baker Sings - Chet Baker (1954) 5 Votes

-68. We Insist! - Max Roach (1960) 5 Votes

-67. The Inner Mounting Flame - Mahavishnu Orchestra (1971) 6 Votes

-66. Ascension - John Coltrane (1966) 6 Votes

-65. Point of Departure - Andrew Hill (1964) 6 Votes

-64. Go! - Dexter Gordon (1962) 6 Votes

-63. Sonny Side Up - Dizzy Gillespie (1959) 6 Votes

-62. Ella and Louis - Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong (1956) 6 Votes

-61. Birth of the Cool - Miles Davis (Recorded 1949-1950) 6 Votes

-60. Hot Fives and Sevens - Louis Armstrong (1925-1928) 6 Votes

-59. The Awakening - Ahmad Jamal (1970) 7 Votes

-58. Miles Smiles - Miles Davis (1967) 7 Votes

-57. Idle Moments - Grant Green (1964) 7 Votes

-56. Money Jungle - Duke Ellington (1963) 7 Votes

-55. The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery - Wes Montgomery (1960) 7 Votes

-54. Everybody Digs Bill Evans - Bill Evans (1959) 7 Votes

-53. Misterioso - Thelonious Monk (1958) 7 Votes

-52. Monk’s Music - Thelonious Monk (1957) 7 Votes

-51. Study in Brown - Clifford Brown (1955) 7 Votes

-50. The Quintet Live at Massey Hall - Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker (1953) 7 Votes

-49. Lanquidity - Sun Ra (1978) 8 Votes

-48. Light as a Feather - Chick Corea (1973) 8 Votes

-47. Juju - Wayne Shorter (1965) 8 Votes

-46. Empyrean Isles - Herbie Hancock (1964) 8 Votes

-45. The Atomic Mr. Basie - Count Basie (1958) 8 Votes

-44. Jaco Pastorius - Jaco Pastorius (1976) 9 Votes

-43. Journey in Satchidananda - Alice Coltrane (1971) 9 Votes

-42. Free for All - Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers (1965) 9 Votes

-41. Duke Ellington and John Coltrane - Duke Ellington and John Coltrane (1963) 9 Votes

-40. The Bridge - Sonny Rollins (1962) 9 Votes

-39. The Blues and the Abstract Truth - Oliver Nelson (1961) 9 Votes

-38. Workin’/ Relaxin’/ Cookin’/ Steamin’ - Miles Davis (1956) 9 Votes

-37. Ellington at Newport 1956 - Duke Ellington (1956) 9 Votes

-36. The Epic - Kamasi Washington (2015) 10 Votes

-35. Song for my Father - Horace Silver (1965) 10 Votes

-34. The Sidewinder - Lee Morgan (1964) 10 Votes

-33. Undercurrent - Bill Evans and Jim Hall (1962) 10 Votes

-32. Sketches of Spain - Miles Davis (1960) 10 Votes

-31. Blues and Roots - Charles Mingus (1960) 10 Votes

-30. Portrait in Jazz - Bill Evans (1960) 10 Votes

-29. Heavy Weather - Weather Report (1977) 11 Votes

-28. Karma - Pharoah Sanders (1969) 11 Votes

-27. Getz/Gilberto - Stan Getz and Joao Gilberto (1964) 11 Votes

-26. The Complete Savoy and Dial Master Takes - Charlie Parker (1944-1948) 11 Votes

-25. 25. Milestones - Miles Davis (1958) 12 Votes

-24. Red Clay - Freddie Hubbard (1970) 12 Votes

-23. Monk's Dream - Thelonious Monk (1963) 12 Votes

-22. Soul Station - Hank Mobley (1960) 12 Votes

-21. Clifford Brown and Max Roach - Clifford Brown and Max Roach (1954) 12 Votes

-20. Speak No Evil - Wayne Shorter (1964) 14 Votes

-19. My Favorite Things - John Coltrane (1961) 15 Votes

-18. Brilliant Corners - Thelonious Monk (1957) 15 Votes

-17. Maiden Voyage - Herbie Hancock (1966) 16 Votes

-16. Somethin’ Else - Cannonball Adderley (1958) 16 Votes

-15. In a Silent Way - Miles Davis (1969) 17 Votes

-14. Saxophone Colossus - Sonny Rollins (1956) 17 Votes

-13. Out to Lunch - Eric Dolphy (1964) 19 Votes

-12. The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady - Charles Mingus (1963) 21 Votes

-11. The Shape of Jazz to Come - Ornette Coleman (1959) 21 Votes

-10. Moanin’ - Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers (1959) 23 Votes

-9. Blue Train - John Coltrane (1958) 23 Votes

-8. Sunday at the Village Vanguard/ Waltz for debby (1961) 24 Votes

-7. Time Out - Dave Brubeck (1959) 27 Votes

-6. Giant Steps - John Coltrane (1960) 29 Votes

-5. Bitches Brew - Miles Davis (1970) 32 Votes

-4. Head hunters - Herbie Hancock (1973) 34 Votes

-3. Ah Um - Charles Mingus (1959) 37 Votes

-2. A Love Supreme - John Coltrane (1965) 49 Votes

-1. Kind Of Blue - Miles Davis (1959) 49 Votes

Heh, that's not as bad as I expected.

Why does Conference of the Birds never turn up in these lists? Or maybe it does and I just haven't been paying attention. Anyway, I love the shit out of that album.

reposting the ILM 250 just so its easier to find and noone mistakes the reddit results

Recap 250-1

250 Thelonious Monk - Criss Cross (1963) 359 4
249 Herbie Hancock - Blow-Up (1966) 364 3
248 gil evans - out of the cool (1960) 365 3
247 Clifford Brown and Max Roach at Basin Street (1956) 367 3
246 Charles Mingus - Blues And Roots (1959) 369 4
245 Sun Ra - Strange Strings (1966) 373 4
243(tie)Sonny Sharrock - Guitar (1986) 376 2
243(tie)243 Milford Graves - Babi (1977) 376 2
242 Art Ensemble Of Chicago - Message To Our Folks (1969) 377 3
240(tie)Peter Brötzmann - Nipples (1969) 377 4
240(tie)Elvin Jones - Dear John C. (1965) 377 4
239 Roland Kirk - Natural Black Inventions: Root Strata (1971) 380 2
238 Sun Ra - Other Planes of There (1966) 381 3
237 John Coltrane - Live at Birdland (1963) 384 4
236 Herbie Hancock - Thrust (1974) 386 3
235 Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss Movement (1969) 387 3
234 Derek Bailey - Ballads (2002) 387 5
233 Max Roach - We Insist! Freedom Now Suite (1960) 394 4
232 Roland Kirk - Blacknuss 398 (1972) 4
231 Sun Ra - The Nubians Of Plutonia (1966) 402
230 Bill Evans & Jim Hall - Undercurrent (1963) 412 4
229 Bobby Hutcherson - San Francisco (1970) 413 3
228 Miles Davis - Miles Davis Quartet (1954) 415 4
227 Marion Brown Quartet - Marion Brown Quartet (19670 415 5
226 Miles Davis - Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants (1954-56) 417 4
225 Grant Green - Street Of Dreams (1964) 422 4
224 Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar (1960) 431 4
223 Archie Shepp - Yasmina, a black woman (1969) 432 4
222 Eric Dolphy - Iron Man (1963) 436 4
221 Ornette Coleman - Ornette! (1961) 436 5
220 Bill Evans - Portrait In Jazz (1959) 440 3
219 McCoy Tyner - Song of the New World (1973) 453 Points, 4 votes
218 Baby Face Willette - Stop And Listen (1961) 457 (Points) 5 votes
217 Pharoah Sanders - Summun Bukmun Umyun (1970) 458 Points, 5 votes
216 Sun Ra - Lanquidity (1978) 460 Points, 3 votes
215 Albert Ayler - Love Cry (1967) 461 Points, 6 votes
214 Antonio Carlos Jobim - Stone Flower (1970) 465 Points, 3 votes
213 Nina Simone - At Town Hall (1959) 470 Points, 4 votes
212 Bobbi Humphrey - Blacks and Blues (1974) 473 Points, 6 Votes
211 Evan Parker, Derek Bailey, Han Bennink - Topography of the Lungs (1970) 474 Points, 3 Votes
210 John Coltrane/ Don Cherry - The Avant Garde (1960) 476 Points, 5 votes
209 Jimmy Smith - Root Down (1972) 477 Points, 4 votes
208 Albert Ayler - New grass (1969) 478 Points, 4 votes
207 Pharoah Sanders - Izipho Zam (1969) 478 Points, 5 Votes
206 Thelonious Monk and John Coltrane (1957) 479 Points, 3 votes
205 Dizzy Gillespie - At Newport (1957) 501 Points, 4 votes
204 Wayne Shorter - The Allseeing Eye (1965) 501 Points, 6 votes
203 Alice Coltrane - Eternity (1976) 502 Points, 4 votes
202 Cecil Taylor - Nefertiti (1962) 505 Points, 4 votes
201 Jon Hassell/Brian Eno - Fourth World Vol. 1: Possible Musics (1990) 507 Points, 5 Votes

200 John Coltrane - Ballads (1962) 510 Points, 5 Votes
199 Sarah Vaughan - Sarah Vaughan ( "Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown") (1954) 512 Points,4 Votes
198 Sonny Rollins - The Cutting Edge (1974) 512 Points, 6 Votes
197 Jimmy Smith - The Sermon (1958) 513 points, 4 Votes
196 John Coltrane - Coltrane Plays The Blues (1962) 513 Points 5 votes
195 Art Pepper - Art Pepper Meets the Rhythm Section (1957) 515 Points, 5 votes
194 Freddie Hubbard - Hub-Tones (1962) 519 Points, 5 votes
193 Eddie Henderson - Sunburst (1975) 519 Points, 7 votes
192 Freddie Hubbard - Ready For Freddie (1961) 521 Points, 4 Votes
191 Don Wilkerson - Elder Don (1962) 523 points, 5 votes
190 Blue Mitchell - The Thing To Do (1964) 525 Points, 5 votes
TIE
188 John Coltrane - Traneing In (1958) 526 Points, 4 votes
188 John Coltrane - Lush Life (1958) 526 Points, 4 votes
187 Lou Donaldson - Blues Walk (1958) 528 points, 3 votes
186 Andrew Hill - Compulsion (1965) 529 Points, 6 votes
185 Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - A Night In Tunisia (1957) 530 Points, 5 votes
184 Archie Shepp - On This Night (1966) 530 Points, 6 votes
183 Jackie McLean - New And Old Gospel (1967) 534 Points, 6 votes
TIE
181 Alice Coltrane - World Galaxy (1972) 535 Points, 5 votes
181 Albert Ayler - Bells (1965) 535 Points, 5 votes
180 Jackie McLean - Let Freedom Ring (1962) 537 Points, 7 votes
179 Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine (1965) 539 Points, 5 votes
178 Wayne Shorter - Super Nova (1969) 540 Points, 5 votes
177 Tony Williams - Lifetime (1964) 542 Points, 7 votes
176 Archie Shepp - Attica Blues (1972) 545 Points, 6 votes
175 Curtis Fuller - the opener (1957) 548 Points, 4 votes, One #1 vote
174 Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else (1958) 548 Points, 5 votes
173 Donald Byrd - places and spaces (1975) 550 Points, 5 votes
172 Charles Mingus - The Clown (1957) 550 Points, 7 votes
TIE
170 Count Basie - The Atomic Mr Basie (1957) 553 Points, 5 votes
170 Miles Davis - Seven Steps To Heaven (1963) 553 Points, 5 votes
169 Sun Ra - Atlantis (1967) 554 Points, 7 votes
168 Noah Howard - The Black Ark 558 6 votes
167 Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse (1970) 561 Points, 4 votes
166 Pharoah Sanders - Journey to the One 561 Points, 5 votes
165 Kenny Burrell - Midnight Blue (1963) 563 Points 5 votes
164 Miles Davis - Walkin' (1954) 563 Points 6 votes
163 Grant Green - Solid (1964) 564 Points, 6 votes
162 Andrew Hill - Judgment! (1964) 578 Points, 5 votes
161 Eric Dolphy - Out There (1960) 580 Points, 6 votes
160 Herbie Mann - Memphis underground (1969) 586 Points, 5 votes
Tie
158 Dorothy Ashby - Afro Harping (1968) 592 Points, 6 votes
158 Yusef Lateef - Eastern Sounds (1961) 592 Points, 6 votes
157 Miles Davis - Dark Magus (1974) 595 Points, 6 votes
156 Cannonball Adderley - Mercy Mercy Mercy! (1966) 597 Points, 4 votes One #1
155 Miles Davis - Pangaea (1975) 598 Points, 6 votes
154 Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame (1971) 600 points, 7 votes
153 Hank Mobley - Workout (1961) 604 Points, 6 votes
152 stan getz and joao gilberto - getz/gilberto (1964) 607 Points, 5 votes
151 Charlie Parker - Jazz at Massey Hall (1953) 612 Points, 7 votes

TIE
149 Billy Cobham - Spectrum (1973 618 Points, 6 votes
149 Thelonious Monk - A Genius Of Modern Music (1947?) 618 points, 6 votes
148 j.j. johnson - proof positive (1964) 619 Points, 7 votes
147 Miles Davis - Workin' (1959) 620 Points, 7 votes
TIE
145 Art Blakey - Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (1958) 621 Points, 5 votes
145 Herbie Hancock - Mr. Hands (1980) 621 Points, 5 votes
144 Grant Green - Matador (1964) 624 Points, 6 votes
143 Freddie Hubbard - Sing Me A Song of Songmy (1971) 625 Points, 6 votes
142 Joe Henderson - In 'N Out (1964) 629 Points, 6 votes
141 Don Cherry - Brown Rice (1975) 633 Points, 6 votes
140 Charles Mingus - New Tijuana Moods (1957) 635 points, 5
139 Herbie Hancock - Man-child 635 Points, 7 votes
138 Pharoah Sanders - Jewels of Thought (1969) 637 Points, 6 votes
137 Big John Patton - Let 'Em Roll (1965) 646 Points, 7 votes
136 Sonny Rollins - Way Out West (1957) 656 Points, 6 votes
135 Sun Ra - The Heliocentric Worlds Of Vol 2 (1966) 659 Points, 8 votes
134 Grant Green - Live At The Lighthouse (1972) 662 Points, 7 votes
133 Miles Davis - Sorcerer (1967) 667 Points, 6 votes
132 Theolonious Monk Quartet and John Coltrane - At Carnegie Hall (1957) 673 Points
131 Freddie Hubbard - Red Clay (1970) 674 Points, 8 votes
130 Vince Guaraldi Trio - A Charlie Brown Christmas (1965) 684 (points) 7 votes
129 John Coltrane - Kulu Se Mama (1965) 687 Points, 7 votes
128 Bobby Hutcherson - Components (1965) 693 Points, 6 votes
127 Thelonious Monk - Monk's Music (1957) 694 Points 8 votes
126 Archie Shepp - Mama Too Tight 695 Points, 7 votes
125 Miles Davis - Filles de Kilimanjaro (1968) 698 Points, 8 votes
124 Miles Davis - Porgy And Bess (1958) 702 Points, 6 votes
123 Miles Davis - Relaxin' with the Miles Davis Quintet (1957) 703 Points, 9 votes
122 Archie Shepp - The Magic of Ju-Ju (1967) 714 Points 8 votes
121 Big John Patton - Along Came John (1963) 718 Points, 7 votes
120 Sun Ra - Nothing Is (1966) 723 Points, 7 votes
119 Sonny Clark - Leapin' And Lopin' (1961) 728 Points, 7 votes
118 Miles Davis - Milestones (1958) 731 Points, 8 votes
117 Kenny Dorham - Matador (1962) 737 Points, 7 votes
TIE
115 Charles Mingus - Oh Yeah (1962) 739 points, 6 votes
115 Bobby Hutcherson - Stick Up (1966) 739 Points 6 votes
114 John Coltrane - First Meditations (1965) 747 7 votes
113 Miles Davis - Miles Ahead (1957) 751 Points, 9 votes
112 Wayne Shorter - Schizophrenia (1967) 760 Points, 7 votes
111 Jackie McLean - One Step Beyond (1963) 761 Points, 8 votes
110 Lou Donaldson - Good Gracious (1963) 764 Points, 7 Votes
109 McCoy Tyner - Expansions (1968) 771 Points, 7 votes
108 Miles Davis - Miles in The Sky (1968) 778 Points 7 Votes
107 Donald Byrd - Blackbyrd (1973) 785 Points, 8 votes
106 Bill Evans - Waltz for Debby (1961) 796 Points, 7 votes
105 Sun Ra - Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy (1963) 801 Points 8 votes
104 Don Cherry - Mu - Parts 1 & 2 (1969) 803 Points, 9 votes
103 Albert Ayler - Live in Greenwich Village (1967) 807 Points, 6 votes, One #1
102 Andrew Hill - Black Fire (1963) 812 Points 8 votes
101 Bobby Hutcherson - Dialogue (1965) 818 Points, 8 votes

100 Art Ensemble Of Chicago - les stances a sophie (1970) 828 Points, 9 votes
99 Miles Davis - E.S.P. (1965) 835 Points, 9 votes
98 Art Ensemble Of Chicago - A Jackson in Your House (1969) 846 , 8 votes
97 Grant Green - Idle Moments (1965) 846 Points 9 votes
96 Bill Evans - Sunday at the Village Vanguard (1961) 849 Points, 8 votes
95 John Coltrane - Sun Ship 859 Points, 9 votes
94 Duke Ellington - Ellington at Newport (1956) 863 Points, 7 votes
93 Sonny Sharrock - Ask The Ages (1991) 872 Points, 7 votes
92 Sonny Rollins - Tenor Madness (1956) 880 Points, 8 votes
91 Herbie Hancock - Empyrean Isles (1964) 890 Points, 11 votes
90 Miles Davis - Birth Of The Cool (recorded 1949-50) 898 Points, 9 votes
89 Ornette Coleman - Tomorrow Is The Question! (1959) 904 10 votes
88 Miles Davis - Nefertiti (1968) 912 Points, 8 votes
87 John Coltrane - Crescent (1964) 920 Points, 8 votes
86 Freddie Hubbard - Open Sesame (1960) 929 Points,9 votes
85 Miles Davis - Bags' Groove (1957) 930 Points 8 votes
84 Pharoah Sanders - Tauhid (1966) 932 Points, 10 votes
83 Sun Ra - Angels & Demons At Play (1960) 940 Points, 10 votes
82 John Coltrane - Stellar Regions (1967) 942 Points, 9 votes One #1
81 Thelonious Monk - Monk's Dream (1962) 949 Points, 10 votes
80 Miles Davis - Miles Smiles (1967) 951 Points, 9 votes
79 Alice Coltrane - Universal Consciousness (1971) 964 Points, 7 votes, TWO #1's
78 John Coltrane - Coltrane (Impulse) (1962) 965 Points 10 votes
77 Miles Davis - Cookin' With The Miles Davis Quintet (1957) 966 Points, 10 votes
76 David Holland Quartet - Conference of the Birds (1972) 974 Points, 8 votes
75 Herbie Hancock - Takin' Off (1962) 976 Points, 8 votes
74 Anthony Braxton - for alto (1968) 986 Points, 8 votes
73 Sonny Sharrock - Black Woman (1969) 997 points, 10 votes
72 Archie Shepp - The Way Ahead (1969) 1003 Points, 9 votes
71 Pharoah Sanders - Thembi (1971) 1007 Points, 9 votes
70 Pharoah Sanders - Black Unity (1971) 1007 Points, 11 votes
69 Oliver Nelson - The Blues and the Abstract Truth (1961) 1035 Points, 9 votes
68 Lonnie Liston Smith and the Cosmic Echoes - Astral Traveling (1973) 1048 Points, 11 votes
67 Hank Mobley - Roll Call (1960) 1049 (Points) 10 votes, ONE #1
66 John Coltrane - Meditations (1965) 1069 Points, 9 votes, ONE #1
65 Cecil Taylor - Conquistador (1966) 1071 Points, 10 votes, ONE # 1
64 Ornette Coleman - Change of the Century (1960) 1083 points, 10 votes
63 Charlie Haden - Liberation Music Orchestra(1969) 1091 Points, 10 votes
62 Duke Ellington feat (Charlie Mingus & Max Roach) - Money Jungle (1962) 1095 Points, 10 votes
61 Sun Ra - The Heliocentric Worlds Of Vol 1 (1965) 1096 Points, 10 votes
60 Hank Mobley - Straight No Filter (1966) 1099 Points, 10 votes
59 Duke Ellington - Far East Suite (1967) 1125 Points, 9 votes
58 Donald Byrd - off to the races (1958) 1132 Points, 11 votes
57 Charles Mingus - Let My Children Hear Music (1972) 1135 Points, 10 votes
56 Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - Moanin' (1958) 1151 Points, 10 votes
55 Wayne Shorter - JuJu (1964) 1194 Points, 12 votes
54 Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage (1965) 1200 Points, 12 votes
53 Thelonious Monk - Straight No Chaser (1967) 1201 Points, 12 votes
52 Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil (1964) 1207 Points, 11 votes
51 Lonnie Liston Smith - Expansions (1974) 1216 Points, 10 votes
50 John Coltrane - Olé Coltrane (1961) 1225 Points, 11 votes

49 Horace Silver - Song for My Father (1964) 1228 Points, 12 votes
48 Miles Davis - Steamin' with the Miles Davis Quintet ( 1961) 1251 Points, 10 votes
47 John Coltrane - Africa/Brass (1961) 1262 Points, 13 votes
46 Ornette Coleman - This Is Our Music (1961) 1343 Points, 12 votes
45 Miles Davis - Get Up With It (1974) 1350 Points, 12 votes
44 Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Out (1959) 1378 Points, 9 votes
43 Miles Davis - Agharta (1975) 1393 Points, 12 votes
42 Alice Coltrane - Ptah The El Daoud (1970) 1447 Points, 13 votes
41 John Coltrane - interstellar Space (1967) 1461 Points, 15 votes
40 Donald Byrd - A New Perspective (1963) 1481 Points, 12 votes
39 Miles Davis - Sketches Of Spain (1960) 1493 Points, 12 votes
38 Ornette Coleman - Free Jazz (1960) 1520 Points, 13 votes
37 Charles Mingus - Pithecanthropus Erectus (1956) 1528 Points, 12 votes
36 Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus (1956) 1538 Points, 13 votes, One #1
35 Miles Davis - A Tribute To Jack Johnson (1970) 1616 Points, 14 votes
34 Andrew Hill - Point of Departure (1964) 1626 Points, 14 votes
33 Charles Mingus - Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus (1963) 1658 Points, 15 votes
32 Peter Brötzmann - Machine Gun (1968) 1714 Points, 12 votes, One #1
31 Lee Morgan - Search For The New Land (1964) 1836 Points, 12 votes
30 Archie Shepp - Fire Music (1965) 1896 Points, 13 votes, one #1
29 Herbie Hancock - Crossings (1971) 1898 Points, 14 votes One #1
28 Joe Henderson - Page One (1963) 1902 Points, 12 votes
27 Miles Davis - On the Corner (1972) 1957 Points, 14 votes, One #1
26 Sun Ra - Space is The Place (Impulse) 1982 Points, 17 votes
25 Cecil Taylor - Unit Structures (1966) 1983 Points 15 votes
24 Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder (1963) 2096 Points, 16 votes
23 Jackie McLean - Destination Out (1963) 2118 Points, 14 votes
22 Miles Davis - Round About Midnight (1956) 2165 Points, 15 votes
21 Thelonious Monk - Brilliant Corners (1957) 2220 Points, 15 votes
20 Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity (1964) 2239 Points 17 votes

19 Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda (1971) 2466 Points, 17 votes, One #1
18 Miles Davis - Bitches Brew (1970) 2554 Points, 17 votes TWO #1's
17 Sonny Clark - Cool Struttin' (1958) 2602 Points, 17 votes, One #1
16 John Coltrane - My Favourite Things (1961) 2651 Points, 21 votes
15 John Coltrane - A Love Supreme (1964) 2701 Points, 20 votes
14 Charles Mingus - Mingus Ah Um (1959) 2708 Points, 22 votes
13 John Coltrane - Blue Train (1957) 2710 Points, 20 votes
12 Herbie Hancock - Head Hunters (1973) 2716 Points, 20 votes
11 Hank Mobley - Soul Station (1960) 2737 Points, 17 votes, One #1

10 Herbie Hancock - Mwandishi (1970) 2774 Points, 20 votes, One #1
9 Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue (1959) 2785 Points, 21 votes
8 Herbie Hancock - Sextant (1973) 2859 Points, 19 vote One #1
7 John Coltrane - Ascension (1966) 2912 Points, 22 votes, One #1
6 Pharoah Sanders - Karma (1969) 2996 Points, 21 votes
5 Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959) 3011 Points, 22 votes
4 Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch (1964) 3080 Points, 22 votes
3 John Coltrane - Giant Steps (1959) 3134 Points, 23 votes TWO #1's
2 Charles Mingus - The Black Saint And Sinner Lady (1963) 3321 Points, 22 One #1

1 Miles Davis - In A Silent Way (1969) 3379 Points, 23 votes, 3 #1's

Why does Conference of the Birds never turn up in these lists? Or maybe it does and I just haven't been paying attention. Anyway, I love the shit out of that album.

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76 David Holland Quartet - Conference of the Birds (1972) 974 Points, 8 votes

Nm, still too low tho.

Maybe lots of folk will have discovered it since the poll?

I discovered loads of great stuff thanks to it

reposting the ILM 250 just so its easier to find and noone mistakes the reddit results

Oh no, not again! :(

Def prefer the reddit list. I'll show myself out

damn 5th columnists

WTF at only including stuff after 1945? Big band jazz is my favorite jazz.

It took 9 years to complain?

as I already said many times Tuomas was supposed to run a pre 1945 jazz tracks poll to compliment this one.

I find that lists like this serve two purposes: as a cross-section of an individual or group aesthetic, and as a guide for new music to listen to. I don't see the point of complaining what's on them or not on them, make your own list if you want a mirror of your preferences.

I also wonder why some jazz fans/historians/critics feel that if you like one strand of this music, you ought to enjoy listening to old records that have nothing in common with your taste. I'm not talking about these records appearing on lists, I mean the outrage when this or that is absent or under-appreciated. Is it because this one hundred years of music is all still called "jazz"? I mean, how would extreme metal fans respond to someone shoving Chuck Berry or Yardbirds records at them, because it's all "rock"?

I thought a big reason why this was post-45 only was that pre-45 stuff would get lost in the shuffle. Better to separate it out and give it the attention it deserves.

Indeed, but Tuomas didn't run it but maybe one of the people on this thread bemoaning the lack of pre 45 jazz could volunteer to run it?

Rude he wrote the theme tune for this board and didn't even place here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8NQgqYoVQ

A short rollout meant that someone had to miss out.