outbreak! (ebola, sars, coronavirus, etc)

Rubbing alcohol corrodes your skin if you use it too often, no?

“Don’t make your own” say these bleeding-heart liberals.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/28/hand-sanitiser-or-hand-washing-which-more-effective-against-coronavirus-covid-19

5 litre bottle of Carex for £15 on Amazon (only 13 left though!)

Thx, stet that is informative. Handwashing and drying properly is a rarity and always key.

I guess that's a fair point, pomenitul. Lotion?
xxpost

Peeps be overreactin’

Tonight I need your sweet Carex
Hold me in the darkness

I don't think that Frank Wucinski guy is a MAGA grifter, he retweeted a call for medicare for all.

Counterintuitively, 90% is less effective at killing germs than 70% fwiw

I did not know this, tyvm

It seems like the terrible lie that is singlehandedly keeping the 90% version in business against the superior 70% product

nah 90% works way better for cleaning pipe/bongs, that's its market niche

That’s literally why I have it, yeah...

*puts away draft class action paperwork*

hand sanitizer is not a substitute for washing your hands

i’ve changed my mind, we’re definitely doomed

90%+ isopropyl alcohol is what you use to clean electronics and equipment that's not supposed to get wet, because it evaporates so quickly. The water that's added to get to 70% actually makes the bacterial killing properties more effective, for some reason.

But as we discussed briefly upthread re

hand sanitizer is not a substitute for washing your hands

We went ahead and canceled our Italy trip today. We were able to get for refunds on airplane tickets, hotels, etc. The only thing we might have to eat is the train tickets between Venice, Florence and Rome. But that’s just a few hundred bucks. Instead, we are taking the kids to New Orleans!

Full refunds I mean.

xpost to JiC: it's really not ideal. when you use it you are killing beneficial bacteria on your skin for one thing. and then there's:

New research published by Science Translational Medicine on Wednesday shows that several strains of these bacteria have begun adjusting to alcohol-based hand sanitizers. They're not resistant to the alcohol — at least, not yet — but they're becoming "more tolerant" of it, the authors write. That means the bacteria were able to survive for longer periods of time after being doused with alcohol.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/08/02/635017716/some-bacteria-are-becoming-more-tolerant-of-hand-sanitizers-study-finds

the airport in chile did the forehead scan temperature check for us when we arrived. I was stressing it because it was hot and I was walking very very fast the entire way there.

xp same

my friend's daughter came back from China after the company she was working for there laid her off. not long after arriving home, the CDC made a house visit to check on her.

(she doesn't have coronavirus as far as she knows at this time)

xpost lotsa other stuff you can catch in New Orleans ....

So, let's see what the news is around here.

• A 'community-source' case of COVID19 was discovered at an elementary school about 3 miles from my house.

• Today was the day our refrigerator decided to die.

• Not verified, because I haven't ventured out, yet, but I have a strong hunch there might be a tad bit more panic-buying going on around here, so restocking our fridge may be a bit tricky.

First death in US just reported

xpost lotsa other stuff you can catch in New Orleans ....

No doubt! You can control your risks a bit more tho.

An angry crowd set fire to a clinic in Bandar Abbas, south of #Iran because it had patients in it suffering from #coronavirus. Some people say the patients were from Qom -very far away- and this had angered the mob. There is a sense of panic. Still hard to believe this happened. pic.twitter.com/e6nRRrlKDx

— Ali Arouzi (@aliarouzi) February 29, 2020

We have a friend who told us *her* friend in Palo Alto just had to cancel dinner with friends because someone in that other family tested positive.

tough break for Kevin Bacon

Kevin Bacon is eventually going to give us all coronavirus.

Patient zero:
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/actress-elizabeth-mcgovern-and-actor-kevin-bacon-attend-carroll-a-picture-id144464264?s=2048x2048

I can count in one hand the number of I HATE TRUMP posts I've shared here, but, really, what he said today about the dead American encapsulates his depravity and loathsomeness:

In a news conference on Saturday, President Trump identified her as “a wonderful woman, a medically high risk patient in her late 50s.”

He should've just said, "Oh, well, shouldn't have had a heart condition."

Do we reckon he's shitting it behind the bravado?

it would be funny if he caught the coronavirus, even more funny if he succumbed to it

Oh hey btw Donald the woman who died was actually a man and not a woman. Maintain that sterling standard of presidenting. And then, yes, succumb as quickly as possible to your inevitable infection. Thanks.

Regarding the White House’s response to the coronavirus outbreak, Trump said he would meet with pharmaceutical companies on Monday to discuss expedited vaccine development.

👍

the people I know directly (so not hearsay) who work at hospitals and military hospitals or with the medic teams are all pissed with what they are being told (basically only info protecting the administration) and that they (healthcare workers) are not being protected.

in the US.

ironically enough I just started watching Chernobyl

join us! Seriously though, that movie (although very good) was so aggravating.

I am watching Chernobyl right now and it just reinforces how little faith I have in the people that ultimately make decisions of communication about these things.

― Yerac, Sunday, 23 February 2020 08:39 (one week ago)

Kinda inevitable this epidemic will be a politicised shitshow with this administration. As my display name suggests, I'm hoping this leads to a recognition that probity, work ethic, and expertise matter in November. If it clears out a few cognitively impaired politicians and their cognitively impaired supporters, its unfortunate, but for the best.

I'm hoping this leads to a recognition that probity, work ethic, and expertise matter in November

otm

I wouldn't count on this being a winner for sane or progressive politics

Or punk rock for that matter

I wouldn't discount the effects of 15% of the infected requiring 3-4 wks hospital care and receiving the bills. Or choosing to forgo hospital care and about a third (of that subpopulation) dying.

Lol the fatality rate is not 30% you fixate on the weirdest shit

Oh wait sorry glanced over yr caveat

Correction noted, but justifying: In China, 5% of cases needed critical care. 50% mortality rate among them, and I don't think many with the acute repiratory distress syndrome and/or organ failure (esp. kidney) would have survived without respirators and oxygen. 5% mortality without ICU care isn't unreasonable.

In the US, my understanding is there's ~100k ICU beds, and they're 66% occupied. Very key and important to slow Covid19 down so that most of those needing the respirators get access. Pretty unlikely, TBH.

I've been very busy all day dealing with our broken refrigerator situation, but in doing so I dropped by a local supermarket for ice and milk. I'm happy to report that the shelves were still well-stocked and while there seemed to be a bit of heightened nerves among the shoppers, there was no indication of panic-buying. For this I am truly grateful, as about 70% of the food in our refrigerator is now trash. The replacement refrigerator will be arriving next Thursday.

Zero evidence of hoarding on the shelves/baskets at the local Wallyworld. No runs on shelf-stable foods, and my glances at 2 dozen baskets didn't indicate a single other shopper planning for the worst with outsized purchases of dried rice/beans or canned goods.

The numbers in the US that are even vaguely aware of how this could evolve are under 5%. Enough to clear out masks and hand sanitizer, not enough to affect the canned goods aisles.

Why do I constantly get random itches on my face whenever I make a concerted effort to not touch my face like I'm not usually scratching itches on my face I just touch it a lot fuck coronavirus

Quit huffing poison ivy