Pretend you have a ballot for the 2022 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

sought and signed

Devils on the Doorstep is a very good film

The trick is to have three classic films to establish that you've seen the basics, three strategic votes for something you want to see move up on the list, and three votes for something no one else will vote for, so that you seem like you have a personality. And a joker.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:47 AM (two hours ago)

Actually, I think we cracked the code on the 2012 ballots thread:

for younger crix the alogorithm is usually

1 x silent film that isnt potemkin sunrise or w/e
1 x bresson/dreyer
1 x japanese
1 x godard else maybe eustache or markers or suchlike
2 x ford/hawks/sirk/&c
2 x hitchcock/welles/kubrick
1 x tsai/breillat/&c antiseptic post 95 arthouse
1 x avantgarde

― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:59 PM (seven years ago)

1 silent, preferably in which an elephant dies on camera
1 fruity early sound musical
1 first wave a-g
1 newer a-g, preferably a horror movie in disguise
1 golden age of horror
1 French 60s (maybe Bresson)
1 French 70s (maybe Bresson)
1 movie with men kissing, but they're actually killing each other unless one is underage
Satantango
2 girls, 1 cup reax YouTubes

― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, April 25, 2012 2:04 PM (seven years ago)

1 silent, preferably in which an elephant dies on camera
1 fruity early sound musical
1 first wave a-g
1 newer a-g, preferably a horror movie in disguise
1 golden age of horror
1 French 60s (maybe Bresson)
1 French 70s (maybe Bresson)
1 movie with men kissing, but they're actually killing each other unless one is underage
Satantango
2 girls, 1 cup reax YouTubes
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, April 25, 2012

add 1 ounce Campari and/or Averna
add 1/8 ounce Noilly Pratt sweet vermouth
stir

for younger crix the alogorithm is usually
1 x silent film that isnt potemkin sunrise or w/e
1 x bresson/dreyer
1 x japanese
1 x godard else maybe eustache or markers or suchlike
2 x ford/hawks/sirk/&c
2 x hitchcock/welles/kubrick
1 x tsai/breillat/&c antiseptic post 95 arthouse
1 x avantgarde

replace "avantgarde" with "Lynch" and this is perfect

Right, at this point one slot on each ballot is reserved for Mulholland Dr. or Inland Empire or Twin Peaks: The Return. No question.

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I don't mind running an all-time poll as soon as I can come up with something better than Schmight and Schmound.

I Have No Sight, and I Must Sound

Milm and Foovies

The sights are alive with the sound of movies

Peace on Earth (Harman 1939)
Night and the City (Dassin 1950)
Playtime (Tati 1967)
Eraserhead (Lynch 1977)
Possession (Żuławski 1981)
Pee-wee's Big Adventure (Burton 1985)
Goodfellas (Scorsese 1990)
Safe (Haynes 1995)
Ghost World (Zwigoff 2001)
The Social Network (Fincher 2010)

All male directors and only two not in English, I know.

sound + vision

Blind, deaf, and mute.

Footlight Parade (Bacon, 1933)
The Music Box (Parrott, 1932)
The Scarlet Empress (von Sternberg, 1934)
UHF (Levey, 1989)
Seven Years Bad Luck (Linder, 1921)
Justin de Marseille (Tourneur, 1935)
Eliso (Shengelaia, 1928)
The Valley of the Bees (Vláčil, 1968)
Was Frauen Träumen (von Bolvary, 1933)
Razzia sur la Chnouf (Decoin, 1955)

Interesting list, I haven't seen any of them!

The Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1975)
Oslo, August 31st (Trier, 2011)
Mulholland Dr (Lynch, 2001)
The Green Ray (Rohmer, 1986)
Etre et avoir (Philibert, 2002)
The Graduate (Nichols, 1967)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1969)
North by Northwest (Hitchcock, 1959)
Singin' in the Rain (1952)
Billy Liar (Schlesinger, 1963)

Just read the thread and reailse I've shared three with Morbs, what a creep.

I'd always have picked Vertigo until now but the last time I watched it didn't quite churn me up as much as before so I wonder if I've just grown out of it. Or whether I'm just put off by it climbing to #1 in the S&S list. Anyway, North by Northwest is as enjoyable a watch as any film I know.

Seems like progressing from loving North By Northwest to loving Vertigo is what goes with the river of life's current.

I've become less anguished with age.

Talking of which, not Taxi Driver so far.

I don't mind running an all-time poll as soon as I can come up with something better than Schmight and Schmound.

Spite and pwnd

Spite & Stanned

Anyway.

I could just as soon put LE RAYON VERT on mine too, Alba

sorry

Chronologically:

Duck Amuck (Jones 1953)
Yojimbo (Kurosawa 1961)
PlayTime (Tati 1967)
Repo Man (Cox 1984)
Home Alone (Columbus 1990)
Ricky Jay and His 52 Assistants (Mamet 1996)
The Prince of Egypt (Wells/Hickner/Chapman 1998)
The Matrix (Wachowski/Wachowski 1999)
Spirited Away (Miyazaki 2001)
Lady Bird (Gerwig 2017)

Etre et avoir (Philibert, 2002)

The final fillum cut from my own list, but I'd probably wedge it in there somewhere if this wasn't all just for pretend.

Women In Revolt (Morrissey)
Come and See (Klimov)
Safe (Haynes)
Andrei Rublev(Tarkovsky)
Syndromes and A Century (Weerasthakul)
Quiz Show (Redford)
La Jetee (Marker)
Mulholland Dr. (Lynch)
Days of Heaven (Malick)
The Elephant Man (Lynch)
Night of the Hunter (Laughton)
Code Unknown (Haneake)

Quiz Show hell yeah

+ Beau Travail (Denis)

& delete Days of heaven, I suppose.

yeah Silby!

A canonical Jewish movie imo

“I’m acquainted with rugelach.”
“How’d a guy like you get in to Harvard?”

amazing scriptwriting throughout that one.

Etre et avoir--liked it a lot, great ending (a career in teaching punctuated with a sigh), but I thought the teacher was a little too idealized; he was the perfect teacher anyone who's done it rarely is.

- What's the special?

- It's the Reuben.

- The Reuben sandwich is the only entirely invented sandwich. Won the National Sandwich contest two years ago.

-A salient point.

-Who invented it?

-Uh, Reuben kay, at a poker game in Omaha.

- I knew there was a ''k'' in Nebraska.

-Unfortunately they have the sandwich here, but, uh, they don't seem to have any Reubens.

Touche.

I love that you love it, ALS.

Oh, Jesus, I just realized -- we watched your show.

the green ray / LE RAYON VERT... needs a US release. I understand there is a lovely Region 2 boxset. it's a beautiful film. what is the hold up? only Rohmer in print in the US is the Six Moral Tales set (and that's only recently back in print).

ok but maybe just one drawing from the critics & directors 2012 pool

L'AVVENTURA
PLAYTIME
HISTOIRE(S) DU CINÉMA
NASHVILLE
CHINATOWN
VERTIGO
PERSONA
CLOSE-UP
TAXI DRIVER
THE KILLING OF A CHINESE BOOKIE

eliminating all cinema before 1960 or 1970 seems to be a thing; not cool, if it mattered

A ballot without one movie from the 20s or 30s is suspicious. As is a ballot without one movie from after 1980.

If you made a list of your favourite albums, how many Dylan/Beatles/Velvet Underground/Chuck Berry/Creedence Clearwater/Neil Young albums would be on there? If there weren't any, would your list therefore become suspicious?

Yes.

I don't get that. That's the mindset that produces these horribly rote greatest-ever Rolling Stone lists.

Oh, you meant if my list didn't have any of those on it, not yours. In that case, the answer is obviously no.

You're dodging the question artfully and humorously. If the answer is, "Things should be done this way--by everybody else, not me," then okay, I'm guilty of that too sometimes.

Is the suspicion that the listmaker failed to engage with those works at all or that, having engaged, they weren't strongly compelled to include them among their wafer-thin ten-item list of the all-time greatest films among the 849,291,193 films in existence?

I haven't looked at everyone's lists, but if the lists of a couple of acquaintances under 30 I've seen on Twitter are any indication, I'd question their devotion to film if only one film in twenty is international.

Exactly what I wanted to say. In 1970 or whenever, I can maybe see John Simon or somebody superciliously assuming that the absence of such films indicates someone never having seen them. Which is irrelevant anyway, but if such things bother you, whatever. In 2020, start with the assumption that everybody's seen everything, or at least as much as they choose to...(xpost)That really pushes a button with me. "Devotion to film"?--jesus. Please explain what that means. I've been watching films for 50+ years, have a degree in film, have contributed to film magazines, and have zero international films in my Top 10. Am I not sufficiently devoted?

(I meant that OL's post was exactly what I wanted to say.)