is that from the news section
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link
Here's a sprinkling of other headlines I found in a quick search, all apparently from legit journalistic sources:
"Pop star Duffy says she withdrew from public spotlight after being..." (Washington Post)"Singer Duffy says she was..." (ABC Denver"Singer Duffy says she retreated from the spotlight after being..." (CNN)"U.K. singer Duffy breaks silence, says she left spotlight after being..." (NBC News)"Singer Duffy says (...) led to her public retreat" (Minn. Star Tribune)
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link
It's from the "Longform" section, which perhaps doesn't have the same standards as the press release section
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:21 (four years ago) link
as someone who studied journalism and writes longform essays i would encourage you to not confuse them with journalism
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link
morris, I'm sorry but this is a stupid argument
in those other headlines you note the words "Duffy... says" are performing the same function as the term "alleged"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link
Against Allegedly
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link
Yes, I'm the one arguing that saying "says" is fine/ preferred! And the editors of all those headlines seem to agree.
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link
(xp)
I don't think those other headlines are badbut I don't think the Pitchfork headline is bad eitherevery editor has their discretion, but nothing I've seen here is beyond the pale or out of bounds
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link
fcc -- thanx for posting that link... it gets to exactly what I'm talking about.
― Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link
take it to the "words you never want to see again" thread
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link
I dislike "allegedly" because it's one word too easily removed accidentally from editing whereas X "was charged with negligent homicide for what police say was letting his son run across a busy intersection" is harder.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link
Look, while we’re all arguing about this, we’re missing the important news that The Men Want You to Pair Their New LP With a High ABV.
― triggercut, Thursday, 27 February 2020 06:27 (four years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/watch-tom-steyer-and-juvenile-perform-back-that-azz-up/I don’t hold it against Pitchfork for reporting on this but I hold it against reality for allowing this to exist
― really looking forward to wearily scrolling past all your posts (Champiness), Saturday, 29 February 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link
At the risk of bringing up the dead horse for another round of kicking, but I'm not sure why both Grimes and Caribou got 8.2 ratings, though only the former got the BNM tag. Name recognition?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
every question about pitchfork can be answered with the words 'brand positioning'
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Monday, 2 March 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
Whose record label paid for it?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 2 March 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link
they've been weirdly stingy with bnms recently.
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 2 March 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link
Beatrice Dillon was the one previous to Grimes I think. Plus Jeff Parker, Blood Incantation, Davido....can’t remember other recent ones.
― omar little, Monday, 2 March 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link
Destroyer, Gil-Scott Heron
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 2 March 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link
They've had 5 so far this year, only 3 going into March last year.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago)
about life too
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link
Best New Music isn't just about attaining a particular decimal score. If it were, there would be no need for a separate designation at all.
― jaymc, Monday, 2 March 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link
Oh, here we go:
How does Pitchfork's Best New Music system work? I've read reviews where two albums get a score of say 8.2, but one is BNM and the other isn't. --Aurora NuncioThe truth of it is breathtakingly simple: Editors choose Best New Music albums based on the records that we think are the cream of the crop. These are excellent records that we feel transcend their scene and genre. When an album gets Best New Music, we think there's a very good chance that someone who doesn't generally follow this specific sphere of music will find a lot to enjoy in it.
The truth of it is breathtakingly simple: Editors choose Best New Music albums based on the records that we think are the cream of the crop. These are excellent records that we feel transcend their scene and genre. When an album gets Best New Music, we think there's a very good chance that someone who doesn't generally follow this specific sphere of music will find a lot to enjoy in it.
― jaymc, Monday, 2 March 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link
(From a short-lived revival of the reader mailbag in 2012. It appears to have lasted four installments.)
― jaymc, Monday, 2 March 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link
alternately, if it pairs well with a particularly hoppy IPA, it's in
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link
I'm sure ppl who hate metal would still get something out of, er...Blood Incantation?
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link
Funny how that 2012 query also involved two 8.2 ratings
― tamagotchi revival artist (morrisp), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link
well, there are plenty of 8.0s and 8.1s that don't get BNM and very few 8.3s and above that don't, but 8.2 seems like it can go either way
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link
I think the explanation for BNM makes perfect sense, but it just highlights how janky their rating system is.
― tamagotchi revival artist (morrisp), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link
they should add another decimal imo
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 2 March 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
it seems like they're just trying to re-introduce a qualitative aspect to a very quantitative rating system
― enochroot, Monday, 2 March 2020 20:46 (four years ago) link
These are excellent records that we feel transcend their scene and genre. I hate this line of thinking, just offensive to me
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 March 2020 23:59 (four years ago) link
the best music transcends all scenes and genres dontchaknow
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
i also think it sucks but whatryagonnado
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 00:05 (four years ago) link
Back when I used to write for P4K there was also a sense that BNM selections needed broader editor/staff momentum behind them. “Transcends genre” is probably code for “a broad swathe of writers as well as the editors listened to and rate this.”
If I wanted to give a 8.0+ score to a techno album that barely any other writers would be inclined to check out, there would usually not be too much pushback or eyebrow-raising re the score I proposed (perhaps on the basis that barely any readers would notice - different if we were talking about an album from a well-known pop star) but the prospects of getting a BNM were very limited. Other than that he’d days readers are much less precious about what sort of music Pitchfork can endorse, I imagine things have not changed that much in the past half decade.
Though that said Caribou is exactly the sort of artist you’d expect to be BNM’d so it might just be a question of timing.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 04:10 (four years ago) link
They're using the red breaking news chyron for album releases now, huh? Or have I just missed this before?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 6 March 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link
surprise releases, maybe
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 March 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
Yeah I guess maybe that makes sense, just typically used to seeing it for a death or arrest or something. For a second I thought Lil Uzi Vert had died.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 6 March 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link
The new Caribou record is amazing, “Our Love” was stinky-poo but they gave it a 9 or something,
― meaner stinks meat bake it cone (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 6 March 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link
really enjoyed 'new jade' and the album closer
― nxd, Friday, 6 March 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link
(Retroactive) 10 for Björk’s Post! Wow
― Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Sunday, 8 March 2020 07:05 (four years ago) link
Deserved.
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Sunday, 8 March 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link
I know the math makes sense but the realization that Björk has a 33 yr old son does make me feel vv old.
― omar little, Sunday, 8 March 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link
Realized I can’t think of a single album from the past 25 yrs to which I would assign a 10.0 (which I take to mean, “This album is so perfectly realized and historically significant that no other rating would make sense, and identifying any ‘flaws’ would feel utterly superfluous”)... guess it’s good I’m not a Pitchfork editor, lol.
― Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Sunday, 8 March 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link
from the past 25 years?:
midtown 120 bluesaaliyahdiscoverythird
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 March 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link
it's odd that whenever I've talked about Björk with millennials they've brought up that TV clip
― rob, Sunday, 8 March 2020 16:30 (four years ago) link
I had never heard of it until now.
― Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Sunday, 8 March 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link
voodoo
― maura, Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link
yes
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link