Pretend you have a ballot for the 2022 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

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the Through a Glass Darkly - Winter Light - The Silence trilogy is fantastic, there are so many great Bergman films

Dan S, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:00 (four years ago) link

have to go with Wild Strawberries and Fanny and Alexander in the end, though

Dan S, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:07 (four years ago) link

re yang, that day, on the beach is also a must see

devvvine, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:46 (four years ago) link

yes Eric, you see more recent greatness than I do*, that's why youre still in the arena

*do you? really? I can't even call Certified Copy great. It's... enough already.

I do, absolutely. And it is great, absolutely.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 13:26 (four years ago) link

The goodness of most of the lists on this thread is kind of proof that lists are nonsense.

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link

The inability for many on ILX to count to 10 justifies Morbs' contempt.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link

lists are great, everyone should make lists

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

just don't call them the "best" anything, my end of decade list was just a list of some movies from the decade, I'm an idiot and shouldn't be ranking dick

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

nah that's more what i meant tbf

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

Looks like at this early point, 2001 is the most-mentioned, with 5.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link

no cinephile can meaningfully confine a list to 10 w/out playing "electability"-style Family Feud

(or usually, 'let me vote for what others won't')

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

If I were to vote strictly on the "electability" index (i.e. movies that were already solidly in the top 50/100 last decade), I guess my ballot would be selections from these:

The Rules of the Game (1939)
The Magnificent Ambersons (1942)
Late Spring (1949)
The Night of the Hunter (1955)
Imitation of Life (1959)
L'eclisse (1962)
La Jetée (1962)
Gertrud (1964)
Au Hasard Balthazar (1966)
Barry Lyndon (1975)
Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975)
Nashville (1975)
Close-Up (1990)
A Brighter Summer Day (1991)
Sátántangó (1994)
Mulholland Dr. (2001)

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link

The trick is to have three classic films to establish that you've seen the basics, three strategic votes for something you want to see move up on the list, and three votes for something no one else will vote for, so that you seem like you have a personality. And a joker.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link

The Art of the Listmaker

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

Aren't there 12 picks on each ballot?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link

Has there ever been a favourite-films ILX poll? Maybe before I got here, but I don't remember one since. You should run one, Eric, in advance of the S&S poll. At least there won't be arguments over what qualifies. Everything does.

clemenza, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link

I mean... You should definitely run the poll, but there will be arguments when The Return of Twin Peaks wins it...

Frederik B, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link

Let's wait a few years until there's Netflix films that don't appear in the cinema :)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

Bird Box doesn't count?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:21 (four years ago) link

Limited theatrical run in December 2018 (and a festival before that)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link

Huh. The more you know

Frederik B, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link

For the most part avoiding S&S films (many of course objectively better or more influential):

Woman in the Dunes (Teshigahara, 1964)
Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Herzog, 1972)
Come and See (Klimov, 1985)
Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters (Schrader, 1985)
For All Mankind (Reinert, 1989)
Underground (Kusturica, 1995)
Happiness (Solondz, 1998)
Werckmeister Harmonies (Tarr & Hranitzky, 2000)
Devils on the Doorstep (Jiang, 2000)
Synecdoche, New York (Kauffman, 2008)

Save us, Covid19 (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

I don't mind running an all-time poll as soon as I can come up with something better than Schmight and Schmound.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link

sought and signed

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

Devils on the Doorstep is a very good film

Frederik B, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link

The trick is to have three classic films to establish that you've seen the basics, three strategic votes for something you want to see move up on the list, and three votes for something no one else will vote for, so that you seem like you have a personality. And a joker.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:47 AM (two hours ago)

Actually, I think we cracked the code on the 2012 ballots thread:

for younger crix the alogorithm is usually

1 x silent film that isnt potemkin sunrise or w/e
1 x bresson/dreyer
1 x japanese
1 x godard else maybe eustache or markers or suchlike
2 x ford/hawks/sirk/&c
2 x hitchcock/welles/kubrick
1 x tsai/breillat/&c antiseptic post 95 arthouse
1 x avantgarde

― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:59 PM (seven years ago)

1 silent, preferably in which an elephant dies on camera
1 fruity early sound musical
1 first wave a-g
1 newer a-g, preferably a horror movie in disguise
1 golden age of horror
1 French 60s (maybe Bresson)
1 French 70s (maybe Bresson)
1 movie with men kissing, but they're actually killing each other unless one is underage
Satantango
2 girls, 1 cup reax YouTubes

― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, April 25, 2012 2:04 PM (seven years ago)

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link

1 silent, preferably in which an elephant dies on camera
1 fruity early sound musical
1 first wave a-g
1 newer a-g, preferably a horror movie in disguise
1 golden age of horror
1 French 60s (maybe Bresson)
1 French 70s (maybe Bresson)
1 movie with men kissing, but they're actually killing each other unless one is underage
Satantango
2 girls, 1 cup reax YouTubes
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, April 25, 2012

add 1 ounce Campari and/or Averna
add 1/8 ounce Noilly Pratt sweet vermouth
stir

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link

for younger crix the alogorithm is usually
1 x silent film that isnt potemkin sunrise or w/e
1 x bresson/dreyer
1 x japanese
1 x godard else maybe eustache or markers or suchlike
2 x ford/hawks/sirk/&c
2 x hitchcock/welles/kubrick
1 x tsai/breillat/&c antiseptic post 95 arthouse
1 x avantgarde

replace "avantgarde" with "Lynch" and this is perfect

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link

Right, at this point one slot on each ballot is reserved for Mulholland Dr. or Inland Empire or Twin Peaks: The Return. No question.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

I don't mind running an all-time poll as soon as I can come up with something better than Schmight and Schmound.

Detrius and Dragons

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

I Have No Sight, and I Must Sound

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link

Milm and Foovies

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link

The sights are alive with the sound of movies

Dunty Reggae party 🎉 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link

Peace on Earth (Harman 1939)
Night and the City (Dassin 1950)
Playtime (Tati 1967)
Eraserhead (Lynch 1977)
Possession (Żuławski 1981)
Pee-wee's Big Adventure (Burton 1985)
Goodfellas (Scorsese 1990)
Safe (Haynes 1995)
Ghost World (Zwigoff 2001)
The Social Network (Fincher 2010)

All male directors and only two not in English, I know.

wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:17 (four years ago) link

sound + vision

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

Blind, deaf, and mute.

Save us, Covid19 (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link

Footlight Parade (Bacon, 1933)
The Music Box (Parrott, 1932)
The Scarlet Empress (von Sternberg, 1934)
UHF (Levey, 1989)
Seven Years Bad Luck (Linder, 1921)
Justin de Marseille (Tourneur, 1935)
Eliso (Shengelaia, 1928)
The Valley of the Bees (Vláčil, 1968)
Was Frauen Träumen (von Bolvary, 1933)
Razzia sur la Chnouf (Decoin, 1955)

Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link

Interesting list, I haven't seen any of them!

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 23:51 (four years ago) link

The Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1975)
Oslo, August 31st (Trier, 2011)
Mulholland Dr (Lynch, 2001)
The Green Ray (Rohmer, 1986)
Etre et avoir (Philibert, 2002)
The Graduate (Nichols, 1967)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1969)
North by Northwest (Hitchcock, 1959)
Singin' in the Rain (1952)
Billy Liar (Schlesinger, 1963)

Alba, Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link

Just read the thread and reailse I've shared three with Morbs, what a creep.

Alba, Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:12 (four years ago) link

I'd always have picked Vertigo until now but the last time I watched it didn't quite churn me up as much as before so I wonder if I've just grown out of it. Or whether I'm just put off by it climbing to #1 in the S&S list. Anyway, North by Northwest is as enjoyable a watch as any film I know.

Alba, Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:15 (four years ago) link

Seems like progressing from loving North By Northwest to loving Vertigo is what goes with the river of life's current.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link

I've become less anguished with age.

Talking of which, not Taxi Driver so far.

I don't mind running an all-time poll as soon as I can come up with something better than Schmight and Schmound.

Spite and pwnd

Alba, Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:22 (four years ago) link

Spite & Stanned

Alba, Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:26 (four years ago) link

Anyway.

Alba, Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:26 (four years ago) link

I could just as soon put LE RAYON VERT on mine too, Alba

sorry

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:32 (four years ago) link

Chronologically:

Duck Amuck (Jones 1953)
Yojimbo (Kurosawa 1961)
PlayTime (Tati 1967)
Repo Man (Cox 1984)
Home Alone (Columbus 1990)
Ricky Jay and His 52 Assistants (Mamet 1996)
The Prince of Egypt (Wells/Hickner/Chapman 1998)
The Matrix (Wachowski/Wachowski 1999)
Spirited Away (Miyazaki 2001)
Lady Bird (Gerwig 2017)

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:50 (four years ago) link

Etre et avoir (Philibert, 2002)

The final fillum cut from my own list, but I'd probably wedge it in there somewhere if this wasn't all just for pretend.

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 February 2020 02:54 (four years ago) link

Women In Revolt (Morrissey)
Come and See (Klimov)
Safe (Haynes)
Andrei Rublev(Tarkovsky)
Syndromes and A Century (Weerasthakul)
Quiz Show (Redford)
La Jetee (Marker)
Mulholland Dr. (Lynch)
Days of Heaven (Malick)
The Elephant Man (Lynch)
Night of the Hunter (Laughton)
Code Unknown (Haneake)

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Thursday, 27 February 2020 03:05 (four years ago) link


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