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also if we have this many ppl i am definitely thinking ilxor private rundle next go around

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:42 (three years ago) link

Okay, I just looked, and you can only give out 1 invite per season (unless you are a Premier or Commissioner's Circle member). Pretty sure there were more at one point, but I don't blame Thorsten for wanting to put some controls on growth.

I'll give mine to you, Leee, since we've actually met IRL!

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:47 (three years ago) link

Oh, and Will, the referral page is here:
https://www.learnedleague.com/thorsten/referral.php

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:48 (three years ago) link

if my quick scan is right, leee, unctious, and jim want invites? and jaymc has leee? so i will send one to Unc & someone else get jim? (lmk if i missed any. i am so tired rn)

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link

Unc contacted me, I will take care of ‘em

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link

ok jim i'll send you a message then!

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 04:47 (three years ago) link

Why the low get rate on Q4 yesterday, Charles Pathé? This was the flaw in my defense, since I thought everybody must know this, especially an opponent with .761 in Film so assigned it a zero, allowing him to tie me 4(4)-4(3). Note: really don’t care that much, long ago gave up agonizing on defense, valuing speed over accuracy, having long ago settled down into C Rundle, most of my enjoyment now coming from the occasional 1DS or ML.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link

HI DERE

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link

Also I was in the 6% who put Friendly instead of Howard Johnson the other day.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 10:25 (three years ago) link

I got it right, but I wasn't 100% sure about it.

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link

(Pathé, that is.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link

I have found the less I overthink defense and the more I just go with my gut, the better my defensive performance is. I have never heard of Charles Pathé before, even after seeing the answer it is totally unfamiliar to me and my lifetime film score is .776

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

dang, i somehow got to 5 and 0. pride goeth before a fall, i imagine i'm gonna get ganked now.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

for every music nerd who's like "i'm surprised hardly anyone got this question about dababy" there's a math dork who's like "i'm surprised hardly anyone got this question about fundamental calculus concepts" etc. also "why did everyone else get this question wrong that i got right" inevitably comes off as bragging

na (NA), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link

on defense, i think 'age of opponent' is probably a more important factor than any particular subject percentage

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

lol, i seem to keep hitting the "most common wrong answer;" would not have thought a third of the missing group would've also gone with cornet!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

also, i learned something on the "massif" question but holy shit are some of these questions ever posed in the most convoluted way possible

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

i don't worry too much about defense, i mostly focus on which questions seem hard/easy to me, factored through a glance at their strongest/weakest categories.

i went with cornet too. i overthought the "related to" aspect and the most trumpet-adjacent instruments i could think of were bugle and cornet.

na (NA), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

Early in my LL career, I tried to figure out defense by researching my opponent, which is not against the rules (though some people think it should be). These days, I don't have time for that, so I mostly just glance at the info on their profile and occasionally look into their question history to see if their strengths lie more in Games or Sports.

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

also, i learned something on the "massif" question but holy shit are some of these questions ever posed in the most convoluted way possible

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:25 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This one didn't seem particularly convoluted? I think sometimes he just tries to provide a lot of information, to give players multiple ways to get to the right answer. ("Vinson" triggered "Vinson Massif" for me, so I didn't even read the second sentence.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

hey now's a good a time to ask as any. so cornet, 32%. does that mean 32% of people wrote that? or 32% of the 74% who got it wrong? either way i also wrote it lol and that's a remarkable mcwa

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

I also answered "cornet"!

For a MCWA, the percentage is of *all* players. In other words, more people answered "cornet" (32%) than "tuba" (26%).

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

A MCWA that's more common than the actual correct answer is not totally uncommon; it usually happens a few times a season. AFAIK, the most extreme example is still this question, in which the MCWA had 71% and the correct answer had 11%.

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

ok that is straight up a cruel question hahahaha

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

I think this was before MCWAs but I remember this question being very tricky - https://www.learnedleague.com/ll52/questions/md15/md15q2.php

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

I don’t want to do too much research against my opponent but if I have a history of any kind with them and remember to click on the appropriate button I find that useful.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

Damn right I put "cornet," cornu is the one 5th declension noun I remember from high-school Latin! I was like "it's a horn, cornu, I GOT this."

I'm also in the "Pavlovian response to Vinson = Massif" crowd.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

I'll give mine to you, Leee, since we've actually met IRL!

Thanks! My time in Chicago finally paying off!

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

“Age of opponent” is indeed useful info, but never noticed it in the profile.

for every music nerd who's like "i'm surprised hardly anyone got this question about dababy" there's a math dork who's like "i'm surprised hardly anyone got this question about fundamental calculus concepts" etc. also "why did everyone else get this question wrong that i got right" inevitably comes off as bragging

Yeah, does often seem like bragging especially on the LL message board, which is why I don’t say such things there, may say such things here more often where hopefully it might seem less like (humble)bragging.

As far as math goes, one weekend I participated in a 1DS called Pencil and Paper Math, spent a few hours on it, ended up making maybe one silly mistake, misread something else, couldn’t get some complicated calculation to converge, thought I did pretty well but then saw dozens of people coming in with clean sheets. There is just no way to compete with the Joon Pahk’s of the Xword/Trivia World.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

i had a clean sheet on a one-day once -- i don't even remember what -- and still finished like 23rd due to subpar moneyball choices

mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

i've had a couple of clean sheets on one days! and i had a mini league where i was perfect through 7 or 8 days.

i have a niche.

I...
have...
a...
niche.

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

I've done 12/12 on a 1DS three times: Poetic Women, New Jack Swing, and Mystery Theme 22. But the first one is the only one where I actually finished on top (and it was a tie).

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

xp Ha, I always get the regular-season questions about video games wrong.

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

the regular season video games questions are usually pretty damn hard!! i think it's because they're written by someone who's like "uhhh i need a video game question" and asks about, like, the most popular free app in the apple store in 2018 or something lol

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

wow, i remembered that pretty precisely

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

i feel like there is/was a way to check what your wrong answer was on questions you blew. is that still hidden somewhere on the site?

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

https://learnedleague.com/thorsten/pastanswers.php

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

Yes, that’s always good for the current/past season. Keep meaning to train myself to review it but don’t quite care enough.

Something Super Stupid Cupid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link

best i've done in a one-day was a clean sheet and 6th place overall in "rock 'n roll oddities"
best i've done in a minileage was 11 wins 0 losses, 1st place in my division, and 23rd place in the championship for "rock 'n roll." though i lost one day of the "indie rock" minileague but ended up in 7th place in the championship, so maybe that's better.
i also have a niche

na (NA), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

at least when i get 9-6'd i don't have to worry about my defense

mookieproof, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

I got 9-6'd yesterday. :( Could've been a tie, but I second-guessed myself on "tomato" and went with "eggplant."

jaymc, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

haha! i went with tomato in a total "there's no way it's right but whatever" kinda guess. haven't they been eating tomatoes in like italy for hundreds of years?

also was stunned to see vaudeville with a higher average defense/lower get rate than lyme. i for sure was guessing when i wrote lyme, but what other than vaudeville could q3 have been?!

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

i guessed "burlesque" :( i was so sure i had gotten it right and then i saw the answer and felt pretty dumb

na (NA), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

on the other hand i was sure about lyme disease because it's crazy to me that it's only been around basically in my lifetime

na (NA), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

"Vaudeville" was an almost perfect LL question in that once you think of it you say "aha, "ville," that's why they told us it was named after his hometown, I know I'm right" -- (or for that matter "massif," where the strange phrase "mountain MASS demarcated by FISSIONS and FRACTURES" was right there in the question.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link

I've noticed that a lot of LL questions are variations on "How did this thing get its name?" (often backwards: "This is the origin story for what thing?") They are satisfying because even if you don't know the answer, you feel like you've learned something. And they can often be puzzled out.

jaymc, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

ohhhhhh i didn't even think of burlesque, if i had, that would've fucked me up!

and yes as someone who does a lot of trivia things (badly) and writes his own quiz weekly (not too badly) i am always VVVVV impressed by thorsten's writing. real good questions, multiple points of entry, feels like learning. top tier stuff

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

Also went with burlesque. I was pleased I remembered that Kwanzaa was a recent invention. 6-0! Though I think my reign of terror is about to end.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 27 February 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

jaymc, did you send the invite? I don't see it yet. Might have to email me directly at leeeee at gmail.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

i don't think the emails are actually sent out until april, although you can enter them now

Campaign to move el0n mu5k thread to ILM (Will M.), Thursday, 27 February 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

nice work!

jaymc, Saturday, 30 September 2023 23:58 (five days ago) link

Well done, 1st-placers!

I'm comfortable in mid-table obscurity in A Meridian, but I was a bit confused about why I am so low as 16th, given that I am 13th in Total Correct Answers, 11th in fewest Correct Answers Against, and actually 2nd in Defense. Will M.'s post holds a hint to the explanation: Turns out that it has to do with "defense against", which doesn't appear to have its own stat heading: I am rock bottom at Match Points divided by Correct Answers, i.e. I am apparently really easy to defend against!

anatol_merklich, Sunday, 1 October 2023 22:30 (four days ago) link

just learned that i'm one off the lead for the maso in my phylum

my utter nemesis, however, is one up and there's no way this works out for me

mookieproof, Sunday, 1 October 2023 22:36 (four days ago) link

Now in that pre-party tidy empty house limbo before a single guest arrives of having submitted my draft and waiting for the first feedback to flow in.

Dose of Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 October 2023 00:46 (three days ago) link

Heh, just submitted feedback to my own 1DS. It did send me an email, but the feedback didn’t actually show up, either on the site or the email, which is for the best, I guess.

Dose of Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 October 2023 01:23 (three days ago) link

Turns out that it has to do with "defense against", which doesn't appear to have its own stat heading

There is actually a stat like this if you click on Expanded Standings - Offensive Efficiency

The Yellow Kid, Monday, 2 October 2023 01:30 (three days ago) link

There is actually a stat like this if you click on Expanded Standings - Offensive Efficiency

Oh! So there is! Yup, there I am at the very bottom. Thanks!

anatol_merklich, Monday, 2 October 2023 07:58 (three days ago) link


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