Pretend you have a ballot for the 2022 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

LBI we should hang out and do a movie weekend at some point haha

― imago, Tuesday, February 25, 2020 4:40 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

A lot of tears and a lot of confusion, see you on Friday! :D

well "purely visual" is a subjective term

ie there was always music w/ silents

"You brought the wrong Melancholia, dammit!"

Haha

Morbs I agree it was a general ramble. I sometimes feel like sound design is a better argument for modern movies in a theatre than the visual sense.

Surprised no one else has Synecdoche

2001
The Burmese Harp
Certified Copy
Crumb
The Grand Budapest Hotel
Late Spring
Le Mépris
Mulholland Dr.
News from Home
Uncle Boonmee

Archers left out because I couldn't decide btw 7 films

xpost I have an unwatched copy of Synecdoche that I might finally be done waiting for my gf to feel like watching with me; will update.

This Sporting Life
Goodfellas
Wild Strawberries
Stroszek
Rear Window
Sweet Smell of Success
Bigger Than Life
Barry Lyndon
Come and See
Meantime

I could easily put Peeping Tom or Psycho in either of my previous two lists

wow. Citizen Kane's taking a pounding in this thread. call off the dogs!

not very thorough, just the stuff I'm in the habit of naming or have loved most in the last few years

Ninotchka (1939)
The Gang’s All Here (1943)
Hester Street (1975)
Killer of Sheep (1977)
Losing Ground (1982)
Love & Basketball (2000)
Bad Education (2004)
Poetry (2010)
Cameraperson (2016)
Portrait of a Lady on Fire (2019)

The Third Man
2001
A Brighter Summer Day
News from Home
Winter Light
Black Narcissus
The Devil, Probably
Robocop
Maborosi
Safe

ah god fuck it I can't not do another one

THE APARTMENT
FRIDAY NIGHT
SHANGHAI EXPRESS
THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY
I'M STILL HERE
THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE
ZABRISKIE POINT
HEATHERS
ZOOLANDER
EYES WIDE SHUT
THE IMAGE BOOK
THE HUMAN SURGE

I have yet to watch A Brighter Summer Day or Yi Yi but I own both. I am saving them for....something. I'm not sure what yet.

both of them are great, especially A Brighter Summer Day. I still haven't seen Taipei Story, but it's on the Criterion Channel so I will have to watch it

His most realized imo

Don’t forget Terrorizers, it’s streaming a few places.

the Through a Glass Darkly - Winter Light - The Silence trilogy is fantastic, there are so many great Bergman films

have to go with Wild Strawberries and Fanny and Alexander in the end, though

re yang, that day, on the beach is also a must see

yes Eric, you see more recent greatness than I do*, that's why youre still in the arena

*do you? really? I can't even call Certified Copy great. It's... enough already.

I do, absolutely. And it is great, absolutely.

The goodness of most of the lists on this thread is kind of proof that lists are nonsense.

The inability for many on ILX to count to 10 justifies Morbs' contempt.

lists are great, everyone should make lists

just don't call them the "best" anything, my end of decade list was just a list of some movies from the decade, I'm an idiot and shouldn't be ranking dick

nah that's more what i meant tbf

Looks like at this early point, 2001 is the most-mentioned, with 5.

no cinephile can meaningfully confine a list to 10 w/out playing "electability"-style Family Feud

(or usually, 'let me vote for what others won't')

If I were to vote strictly on the "electability" index (i.e. movies that were already solidly in the top 50/100 last decade), I guess my ballot would be selections from these:

The Rules of the Game (1939)
The Magnificent Ambersons (1942)
Late Spring (1949)
The Night of the Hunter (1955)
Imitation of Life (1959)
L'eclisse (1962)
La Jetée (1962)
Gertrud (1964)
Au Hasard Balthazar (1966)
Barry Lyndon (1975)
Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975)
Nashville (1975)
Close-Up (1990)
A Brighter Summer Day (1991)
Sátántangó (1994)
Mulholland Dr. (2001)

The trick is to have three classic films to establish that you've seen the basics, three strategic votes for something you want to see move up on the list, and three votes for something no one else will vote for, so that you seem like you have a personality. And a joker.

The Art of the Listmaker

Aren't there 12 picks on each ballot?

Has there ever been a favourite-films ILX poll? Maybe before I got here, but I don't remember one since. You should run one, Eric, in advance of the S&S poll. At least there won't be arguments over what qualifies. Everything does.

I mean... You should definitely run the poll, but there will be arguments when The Return of Twin Peaks wins it...

Let's wait a few years until there's Netflix films that don't appear in the cinema :)

Bird Box doesn't count?

Limited theatrical run in December 2018 (and a festival before that)

Huh. The more you know

For the most part avoiding S&S films (many of course objectively better or more influential):

Woman in the Dunes (Teshigahara, 1964)
Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Herzog, 1972)
Come and See (Klimov, 1985)
Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters (Schrader, 1985)
For All Mankind (Reinert, 1989)
Underground (Kusturica, 1995)
Happiness (Solondz, 1998)
Werckmeister Harmonies (Tarr & Hranitzky, 2000)
Devils on the Doorstep (Jiang, 2000)
Synecdoche, New York (Kauffman, 2008)

I don't mind running an all-time poll as soon as I can come up with something better than Schmight and Schmound.

sought and signed

Devils on the Doorstep is a very good film

The trick is to have three classic films to establish that you've seen the basics, three strategic votes for something you want to see move up on the list, and three votes for something no one else will vote for, so that you seem like you have a personality. And a joker.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:47 AM (two hours ago)

Actually, I think we cracked the code on the 2012 ballots thread:

for younger crix the alogorithm is usually

1 x silent film that isnt potemkin sunrise or w/e
1 x bresson/dreyer
1 x japanese
1 x godard else maybe eustache or markers or suchlike
2 x ford/hawks/sirk/&c
2 x hitchcock/welles/kubrick
1 x tsai/breillat/&c antiseptic post 95 arthouse
1 x avantgarde

― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:59 PM (seven years ago)

1 silent, preferably in which an elephant dies on camera
1 fruity early sound musical
1 first wave a-g
1 newer a-g, preferably a horror movie in disguise
1 golden age of horror
1 French 60s (maybe Bresson)
1 French 70s (maybe Bresson)
1 movie with men kissing, but they're actually killing each other unless one is underage
Satantango
2 girls, 1 cup reax YouTubes

― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, April 25, 2012 2:04 PM (seven years ago)

1 silent, preferably in which an elephant dies on camera
1 fruity early sound musical
1 first wave a-g
1 newer a-g, preferably a horror movie in disguise
1 golden age of horror
1 French 60s (maybe Bresson)
1 French 70s (maybe Bresson)
1 movie with men kissing, but they're actually killing each other unless one is underage
Satantango
2 girls, 1 cup reax YouTubes
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, April 25, 2012

add 1 ounce Campari and/or Averna
add 1/8 ounce Noilly Pratt sweet vermouth
stir

for younger crix the alogorithm is usually
1 x silent film that isnt potemkin sunrise or w/e
1 x bresson/dreyer
1 x japanese
1 x godard else maybe eustache or markers or suchlike
2 x ford/hawks/sirk/&c
2 x hitchcock/welles/kubrick
1 x tsai/breillat/&c antiseptic post 95 arthouse
1 x avantgarde

replace "avantgarde" with "Lynch" and this is perfect

Right, at this point one slot on each ballot is reserved for Mulholland Dr. or Inland Empire or Twin Peaks: The Return. No question.

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I don't mind running an all-time poll as soon as I can come up with something better than Schmight and Schmound.

I Have No Sight, and I Must Sound