Prog Rock

Well, I haven't heard Sky (should I?)

No.

Sky: C/D

The beginning of 'Ethelion' sounds like a cheap knock-off of this famous French tourdion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxlwCTOuTSs

As an aside, 'let's wage war on this bottle' is one of the best pre-modern drinking song lyrics.

Scratch that, the lyrics were reportedly added in 1949. Too bad.

Their big hit "Ethelion"

Excuse me?

You could definitely argue that Gryphon are the worst concept for a band ever but they’re pretty fuckin good at what they do

Need to hear David Munrow as well. I love this kind of stuff but know nothing about it. Jethro Tull were often at their best when they go all Blackadder.

You could definitely argue that Gryphon are the worst concept for a band ever but they’re pretty fuckin good at what they do

― frogbs

...bub.

david munrow was fucking amazing, as far as i can tell he's the actually talented guy all of these cack medievalists keep knocking off, to the point where the entire early music movement, as far as i can tell, just completely died when he did. just a shattering loss to music.

If you want to listen a bunch of out of tune instruments that sound like a bee trapped in a jam jar who am I to criticize.

If you want to listen a bunch of out of tune instruments that sound like a bee trapped in a jam jar who am I to criticize.

― Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.)

this is pretty much exactly what i want out of music as it turns out

I know it's still Tim Smith, but I heard more Sea Nymphs than Cardiacs in that tune, although I think Bill Drake brought a hefty dose of the early music influence too.

Meanwhile, the 'A New Day Yesterday' book plopped onto my mat today, nearly 600 pages, yikes, looks good tho'

Vermilion Sands - Water Blue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCOLo3qiFvY

Another japanese thing I should get on amazon mp3

is there a chance the new phish album is any good?

https://www.stereogum.com/2078838/phish-sigma-oasis-listening-party/music/album-stream/

listening to the Vermilion Sands album now, very nice stuff, it's like a blend of prog Renaissance and uh...pop Renaissance

Discogs says that the much later second album was a tribute to the deceased singer. She was in a Renaissance/Illusion tribute band. Wish I could find a decent picture of her solo album because all of them are either small or pixelated.

How great is this?

https://youtu.be/PNwDhp3d7Bc?t=8m18s

nice!! I didn't know there were Japanese prog acts active as early as '73 (when their debut came out according to RYM). I guess Mandrake was formed in '74 but they never actually released anything. This is really good

Kinda schizophrenic, I've seen them written up as Japan's answer to Pink Floyd and yeah there's a definite Meddle era thing going on with the cover of Flying and elsewhere, but the track I linked to is like idk, Yes, Gentle Giant? With that lovely ECM style piano coda.

It is good. The previous album with the Sloth smoking a pipe on the cover is supposed to be their best?

Just in case the link dies, it's Yonin Bayashi - Golden Picnic we're talking about.

From Adrenalinepr:
Avant garde progressive rock band DOCTOR NERVE has released its heaviest and most hard-hitting release to date in the form of a new four-song EP entitled LOUD.

Mixed by Nik Chinboukas (Testament, Metal Allegiance) and mastered for maximum impact by Thomas Dimuzio, LOUD is as aggressive as it is intricate. LOUD features a whopping 11 bonus tracks made up of alternate versions of the EP’s four original tunes, featuring guest appearances by Mike Keneally, Henry Kaiser, Robert Musso, Kevin Hufnagel (Dysrhythmia), René Lussier, Andrew Hawkins (Baring Teeth), Matt Hollenberg (Cleric, John Zorn) and Shawn Persinger is Prester John.

A freaky video for the song “If You Were Me Right Now I'd Be Dead,” which debuted last month via Metal Injection, was filmed half speed backwards and flipped to sync with the track. Watch the video at https://youtu.be/TfAvIW9MLGw. The site also gave listeners a taste of LOUD through the song “Painting with Bullets,” featuring a guitar solo by Mike Keneally. Check out “Painting with Bullets” here: https://metalinjection.net/av/new-music/doctor-nerve-release-wild-new-track-painting-with-bullets-feat-mike-keneally.

LOUD track listing:
1. If You Were Me Right Now I'd Be Dead
2. Painting With Bullets
3. Meta 04
4. Uses Probe Form

Adorned with explosive cover art by “violent artist” Masato Okano, LOUD is available in a variety of editions, including CD, streaming, 12” limited edition vinyl, spinning at a mind-numbing 45 rpm, and a Deluxe Package featuring hand-numbered, autographed, heavyweight colored vinyl + CD + download, with poster by Masato Okano and insert art autographed by Tom Marsan. LOUD is available at www.punosmusic.com/doctornerve/loud.

DOCTOR NERVE has been annihilating the boundaries between rock, metal, improvisation, jazz and experimental music since 1983. Emerging out of the downtown NYC/Knitting Factory scene, the band evolved quickly from a punky electric jazz hybrid into a completely original, quirky, progressive ensemble. Led by guitarist Nick Didkovsky (Vomit Fist, Fred Frith, Alice Cooper), DOCTOR NERVE features some of the hottest musicians on the NYC scene.

DOCTOR NERVE is:
Leo Ciesa – drums
Nick Didkovsky - electric guitar, composition
Yves Duboin - soprano sax
Rob Henke - trumpet
Benjamin Herrington – trombone
Jesse Krakow - electric bass
Michael Lytle - bass clarinet
Kathleen Supové – piano

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nice!! I didn't know there were Japanese prog acts active as early as '73 (when their debut came out according to RYM). I guess Mandrake was formed in '74 but they never actually released anything. This is really good

― frogbs

i think mops went a little prog in their later career... there's also a live album by the Peanuts where they do a pretty straight cover of "Epitaph"...

I've broken plenty of prog rock records.

― Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:50 (fifteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Longest ARP Odyssey solo of all time?

Most conceptual concept album

I need assistance, been listening to Stormwatch a bit recently and it's really bugging me what (and who) the song 'Home' sounds like, my wife reckons it's Wings but I'm not sure, any suggestions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ZaIYzZlNo

procul harum

*procol

Sounds a bit like Elton John tbh.

... but, yes, Procol Harum.

... or Roy Wood.

anyone picked this up yet?

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51dLSpjZvZL._SX332_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

Yeah it's great. I posted about it in the "good books about music" thread a month ago but got no replies.

looking forward to getting it, hoping it gets stuck into the obscure poop at the bottom of the cage and doesn't just focus on the big birds

Definitely want to read that at some point.

anagram have you read The Show That Never Ends? been curious wondering which of the two is better?

Haven't read that one. What I like about the Barnes book is that it scopes out everything except UK prog of the 70s. So despite its 600-page length it feels very focused.

I have the Barnes one but it's sitting on the shelf, unread, next to The Big Note (Zappa book), also unread, vibrating monolithically.

neo-prog dude (and well-to-do general hospital director) phideaux switched his albums to 'pay what you want' (including $0) for crisis listening

https://phideaux.bandcamp.com/

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2379

snowtorch has an especially prescient record cover

I’m not huge on prog but have been enjoying watching various old live shows on YouTube (crimson, genesis, gentle giant, ars nova (the Japanese one))

i don't know if they're "prog" proper but one of the bands from that era i love seeing are savage rose with annisette

here's a video of theirs from a '73 outdoor festival

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUora1Hj4Fg

there's another video of theirs from '74 that i think i've posted elsewhere

when it comes to brit prog there's some great video off french tv of the canterbury scene. i particularly recommend the episode of "rockenstock" that coupled a strange one-off lineup of caravan with a strange-one off lineup of hatfield and the north, the latter featuring robert wyatt on vocals!

i LOVE the first savage rose album, ty for the link!

is there a chance the new phish album is any good?

I'll bite. Yeah, it's really good - as far as Phish studio albums go. They (thankfully) ditched Bob Ezrin (not a good match for them at all) in favor of Vance Powell and I think he did a great job on this one. It's easily the best studio thing they've ever done, imo. The silliness is pretty much gone, in favor of a more introspective approach to lyrics. Helps that pretty much the entire record has been road tested for years. There are two instances where they jam out on the songs, to really great effect compared to past studio jams ("Everything's Right", "Thread"). There's also a few songs with orchestral touches that gave me a bit of a Beatles vibe for some reason. I'd hesitate to call it "prog" ("Petrichor", from their last album, was the closest they've come to prog in years), but I could see how prog fans might enjoy this far more than their other studio records.

A great recording of Dave Stweart's 'Rapid Eye Movement' went up on D1m3ad0z3n a few days ago and it's a great listen. It's from 1981, kinda like a strange cross between similar era Crimson, Bill Nelson's Red Noise and zippy New Wave Pop du jour. Includes a cover of XTC's Mekanik Dancing.

never was much on rapid eye movement, but i got a pretty nice tape of rick biddulph early '80s demos that often circulate erroneously labelled as being by "rapid eye movement" and "meanwhile" is a nice jam. wonder if that song ever had a complete version released?

two of mike barnes' favorite words appear to be "moot" and "remit"

local shop had 3 Triumvirat LPs - Spartacus, Old Loves Die Hard, and Pompeii (by "NEW TRIUMVIRAT"!!) - god, these records are so much fun

I never saw ELP, but I did see Triumvirat warm up for Fleetwoid Mac. They played the Illusions on a Double Dimple album in its entirety.

Just done a double take on my amazon recommendations because there's a 5 Essential albums collection of Nektar!

I would opine that they don't have 5 essential albums, and I'm a fan; had tix to see the current touring version this year but they cancelled.

There's also a box set of PFM's Manticore albums.

I'm not much of a modern prog connoisseur but I really like Vulkan's Technatura: late Opeth-esque Swedish prog with light shades of alt metal and what (to my ears) sounds like distant Thom Yorke inflections on the vocal front, which is a definite plus in my book.