What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

oh yeah, i don't think it's anywhere close to widespread. i just mean, in 20 years or so she'll be left-center

Because the center is going to finally move? Optimistically. If you ever want to go down a rabbit hole, read about the initial membership and evolution of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. It's still a good thing, yet...

Times xword clue today was “AOC, eg”
Answer turned out to be “Latina”

That’s both rude and bad crossword-ese bc the answer isn’t an abbreviation

TBF she was the only one they could think of (i.e. they couldn't remember Chachi's real name).

LOL, I meant Ponch.

Tbf,they gave her full name, i am abbreviating because i am on a phone

Gosh forks don’t mislead us like that!

Seems hard to take that AOC's followers would not trust her judgment about what's the best political move for promoting the progressive agenda. Do they really think she'd be knowingly weakening or undercutting her own position?

― A is for (Aimless), Friday, February 21, 2020 2:22 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Tbf, irrespective of this particular situation, I think the last thing AOC would want people to do is sit back and “trust her judgment.” She’s all about constituents holding politicians accountable.

also, you know, she's not infallible

she's a very bright 29yo dealing with a sclerotic centuries-old shitshow; sometimes she may not have the right answer

silby: i figured you were also doing the times crossword if it bugged you like that!

I went through a jag of doing them but not recently

one single NY Post reporter has published 11 "AOC SAYS" exposes so far today by watching Facebook videos she posted in 2016 and writing an article for each one

revelations range from "she says Thomas Jefferson was progressive" to "a friend of hers has never eaten a Flamin' Hot Cheeto"

dangerous levels of horny

next level reply guy

If you've got a free hour, there are worse ways you could spend it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCwhaXHqxoc

that was great

this was indeed outstanding. i certainly never bought any of the "AOC is a dummy" bullshit from RW ghouls but she was (very understandably) a little shaky and imprecise in her "early" days but wow, she is just so absolutely poised and polished now, it's truly phenomenal to watch.

Her answer as to why starting with a public option instead of fighting for M4A itself is dodgy and potentially disastrous should become the standard.

Sen. Cruz, while I understand you judge people’s intelligence by the lowest income they’ve had, I hold awards from MIT Lincoln Lab &others for accomplishments in microbiology.

Secondly, I’m surprised you’re asking about chromosomes given that you don’t even believe in evolution. https://t.co/vOIwJhpl7q

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 28, 2020

I don't like this thread title, every time it's bumped I assume she fucked up

well, it's a play on the title "What are Barack Obama's flaws?" which we all know was ironic, since he has none.

karl malone is one of the great posters and thread-starters but i agree this title is a dud. should be replaced with like... "The AOC Thread" or maybe "AOC'S USA: Rolling Thread of Badass North American Progressive Politicians," like a clearing-house for every time they kill it on mic or on twitter and you can go there when you need a pick-me-up, idk.

thanks doctor casino, that's very nice! i don't mind at all if the title needs to be changed. i agree that it's probably very confusing to everyone who is not deeply embedded (trapped?) in ilx-lingo

i feel like a complete dumbass here, but what was cruz even trying to do there, by asking about what a Y chromosome is?

I don't care to find out but I assume it's some bs about trans people!

she went after choice of Pence to tackle coronavirus, and in turn Cruz challenged her own scientific knowledge, arbitrarily daring her to define Y chromosome

but...that's so dumb! that's like, "OK smartypants! if you know so much, then define....oak tree!!!!"

yes

tbf it goes to abortion stuff but

lol, i missed his two follow-up "challenge" questions to AOC:

Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
·
20h
Replying to
@tedcruz
2/x And at what age of gestation does science tell us that an unborn child feels physical pain?
Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
·
20h
3/x And, of the 195 countries on planet Earth, which country produced the greatest total reduction in CO2 emissions in 2019?

....what a fucking DICKHEAD

of course, ted cruz is very worried about climate change now

The second post in this thread no longer makes sense - maybe the mod that changed the title could edit this post, adding in a parenthetical reference to the original thread title, so as to not make sleeve look gormless?

haha nice callback title

― sleeve, Friday, February 8, 2019 5:21 AM (one year ago)

The fourth post in this thread also no longer makes sense - maybe the mod that changed the title could edit this post too, inserting a parenthetical reference to the original thread title, so as to not make OL look like he's opposed to Ms Ocasio-Cortez in an especially idiotic way?

She's fairly disrespectful to our president, for a start.

― But people get sick on earth in their human form (Old Lunch), Friday, February 8, 2019 5:22 AM (one year ago)

The fifth post in this thread is directly answering the question that was the original New Question - maybe the mod that changed the title could edit in an explanation that the original thread title was a joke question that has been removed, so as to not misrepresent J.D.'s sincerity?

she's so awesome she makes everyone else look bad

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, February 8, 2019 5:22 AM (one year ago)

The sixth post in this thread is also referring to something that no longer exists - maybe the mod that changed the title could edit in a parenthetical reference to the original thread title, so as to not make Simon look like he's suffering a brain injury?

excellent title

― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, February 8, 2019 5:22 AM (one year ago)

The eighth post in this thread is now a weird non-sequitur, instead of a joke that works in the specific context of answering the question - maybe the mod that changed the title could edit in a parenthetical reference to the original thread title, so as to not make mh look like he's engaging in some weird kind of body-shaming?

sharp knees

― mh, Friday, February 8, 2019 5:23 AM (one year ago)

The ninth post in this thread reads like a sequitur, but no longer is - maybe the mod that changed the title could edit in a parenthetical reference to the original thread title, so as to not make linesy appear to be a toddler pointing at flash cards?

american

― ||||||||, Friday, February 8, 2019 5:24 AM (one year ago)

anyway you get the idea

name has 5-4-2 syllable pattern: last name should have three syllables

― mh, Friday, February 8, 2019 5:26 AM (one year ago)

left-handed, so she's pretty much limited to 1B or the outfield

― mookieproof, Friday, February 8, 2019 5:27 AM (one year ago)

the main reason for this thread is that she is an excellent twitterer, so maybe her daily handful of zings can go here instead of the other threads.

however, if i worry about anything with AOC, it's that one day she's going to slip up in some major way, probably on twitter. the right wing is foaming at the mouth to take her down because they recognize what a beacon she's already become.

buuuuut, the great thing about AOC is that i would have more confidence in her than just about anyone else to bounce back quickly from a hypothetic major twitter fuckup. as our wise president says "we'll see what happens"

― Karl Malone, Friday, February 8, 2019 5:29 AM (one year ago)

she came out too fully formed as an awesome politician and therefore must actually be either an alien or a veteran operative in disguise

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, February 8, 2019 5:50 AM (one year ago)

yeah I was gonna say that libcom link falls more under "legit critique of a particular action" than a "flaw" and if she's already moved on from that stance then so much the better.

― sleeve, Friday, February 8, 2019 5:58 AM (one year ago)

her main flaw appears to be her mortality and lack of imperviousness to bullets fired by white nationalists

― imago, Friday, February 8, 2019 6:11 AM (one year ago)

the right going all-out on her might backfire when there's suddenly a dozen more AOC-like candidates in 2022

― frogbs, Friday, February 8, 2019 6:48 AM (one year ago)

The focus on her salary, clothes, what she did 10 years ago etc. really reminiscent of when Corbyn first came along here.

― xyzzzz__, Friday, February 8, 2019 6:54 AM (one year ago)

she didnt ummm split tips correctly at the end of the night or something (?)

― global tetrahedron, Friday, February 8, 2019 7:48 AM (one year ago)

She came dancing across the water. (Not a flaw.)

― clemenza, Friday, February 8, 2019 7:52 AM (one year ago)

she was a johnny-come-lately phoenix fan

― global tetrahedron, Friday, February 8, 2019 7:58 AM (one year ago)

I know conservatives haaaate strong women, so I was preparing myself to see a lot of unfortunate shit posted about her, but I've been honestly shocked at the absolutely disgusting stuff my conservative family and high school acquaintances have been posting on FB for her. It really is horrifying.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, February 8, 2019 8:40 AM (one year ago)

i've seen a lot of memes calling her crazy and stupid but honestly in a post-trump world is all feels pretty desperate

― Mordy, Friday, February 8, 2019 8:46 AM (one year ago)

i mentioned in another thread that she got numbers and things wrong and it was kind of embarrassing (what the branches of government were, some medicare numbers; I think there may have been something else). I think she does better when speaking in societal goals; hence, the new green deal, which seems to kind of leave the specifics out but makes sense as an aspiration. what am I saying? sorry i'm high.

― akm, Friday, February 8, 2019 1:54 PM (one year ago)

I found AOC's flaw, it's trying to Gabbo us over whatever her big announcement is.

― A is for (Aimless), Friday, February 21, 2020 3:15 PM (one week ago)

u alright m8

AOC can you say, our mega dawn's early light

^that's my proposed new thread title, after this one is deleted

our mega dawn is supposed to be read as armageddon

every good thread title has an asterisk and an pronunciation/interpretation guide

sic gone sic

I think if AOC really wants to prove her scientific acumen to the American people, she will tell us precisely how much square footage the tissue of a thoroughly-unknitted Ted Cruz would cover. And I expect her to show her work!

sic we gotta get you a hobby or a pet or something

i never understood what was so bad about the title considering it was obviously a callback to the Obama title. also it's a decent framing to examine those candidates who have a progressive following and determine if they measure up to their reputation. I never read it as the "put a female politician under a ridiculously large microscope that a male politician will never be subject to" framing that some seemed to.

also in the last 5 minutes Biden has asked for $5 again

fwiw when i suggested "replacement" i meant starting a new thread. but renaming this one seems fine, even if some jokes are now confusing. maybe just edit the first post to clarify, or not, idk.

bookmark is still gonna show the old one anyway

don't given biden $5, he'll just blow it on ice cream

xp

oh well good of you to tell me that now when my checking has been emptied

xposts ehhh it's a little like how the Elton poll results title was kind of an Elton diss --- just throws off the mood when you see the bookmark pop up, you expect to see right-wing anti-AOC memes, or sneering conservatives racking up zings and high-fiving each other, or just bad news about her committing some faux-pas or something.

lol I never meant to get it changed, its just weird to have an actually good Congressperson out there

just throws off the mood when you see the bookmark pop up

unfortunately i think even with a title change the bookmark title will remain the same (even if you un-bookmark and re-bookmark)

xp on one hand i gave it the obama-referencing title because i liked/like obama and her ascent was reminding me of the early obama days when it seemed he could do no wrong. and also because, inevitably, like obama, she will screw up. to me, "what are ____'s flaws" is a genre of thread title (a genre of 2) that refers to people you genuinely like a lot and want to succeed, but i understand how that doesn't come through to people who aren't glued to the political threads

I genuinely love how unflappable she is. And I love imagining how flapped her would-be antagonists are by her unflappability.