I feel so extraordinary somePoll's got a hold on me: NEW ORDER artist poll #37 (RESULTS thread)

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POLL Will Tear Us Apart – ILM Artist Poll #86 - JOY DIVISION – New Order solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – a NEW ORDER (#37) supplement poll --- Results Thread

ok, i'm done now

So, do we think Singularity would place in the top twenty now? I'd be tempted to vote it very high.

These pictures are beautiful Millsner, you did an amazing job with this poll. You too Bee!

This thread springs to life every now and then, and I'm always happy when it does. Thanks, Bee, and everyone who participated.

They're touring with the Pet Shop Boys ...

got invited to this but i think i have seen New Order enough in my life. i will see.

I've never seen New Order so I'm kind of all over this

The three times I've seen them have been Hook-less, all good to outstanding.

I've seen them ...4 times, maybe? One with Hook, the rest without, but they've all been good. However, every time I've seen the PSBs (maybe 5?) they've been better, or at least I had a better time. NO always felt pretty nostalgia show, as solid as they were. PSB introduced more surprises: different mixes, a good selection of songs. The bigger question is whether the two will collaborate on any of the Electronic songs. A highlight of seeing Johnny Marr the last time he came through town was him playing "Getting Away With It."

(Note to tour people: they should just add Johnny Marr to the bill, as featured player.)

I saw them once with Hook way back in 1989, which I'm grateful for simply because I think the various emerging solo ventures after that essentially broke what had been a steady dynamic (at least in terms of Sumner/Hook/Morris having been working together since '77). But I've not seen them since, so I'm intrigued to see them again now with all that time and distance. That 1989 crowd was a worshipful LA-area KROQ bedrock experience, young and enraptured -- and clearly that can't be the case this time around, growing old means that much.

New Order sound great as a band, and they do different versions of their songs now, which is fun to hear, but holy shit, Bernard Sumner is somehow even worse of a live singer now than he was back in the day, and he was really shit back in the day too. Anyway, should be fun, but just don't go because you love Bernard's voice.

I go for the lyrics.

Anyone who goes to see New Order live because they love Bernard Sumner's voice is insane

I earned the highest GPA of any senior from the Bernard Sumner School of Advanced Lyric Writing and Singing, and I would never check out NO to revel in his pipes.

I feel good and i feel bad, but common sense i've never had.

One reason I haven't seen New Order live is because I've seen concert footage and my general reaction has been "why do they let him sing"

Why don''t they let Gillian take a turn on vocals for the next album? It can't be worse. They should have Bernard on 4 songs, Gillian on 2, and then finish the album with 2-3 instrumentals.

Hook’s NO book suggests that he ground his teeth in irritation through most of their shows, at Barney’s whoops and laziness

I got the impression from Hook's memoir that everyone in the band was lazy except Peter Hook.

Well Peter Hook can eat a bag of dicks too, with his COME ON'S yelled during LWTUA and the rest of anything he utters on the microphone. Keep that man 50 yards from the nearest live mic, imo.

So the solution is to bring along Dave Gahan?

Jimmy Coversale.

Coverdale too.

I'm telling you, get Marr! Marr is a fine singer, and can not only bolster Sumner and the band but also play with the PSBs and sing with them, too.

Or Coverdale, he's got pipes.

what's the guy from Information Society up to

Pure energy.

I dunno, David Sommerville might be a better fit.

(Marr has an acceptable voice if you want to hear Smiths songs being sung over while Johnny Marr plays guitar. He is a very boring frontman though [also Bernard Butler replaced him as PSB utility guitarist on the new album, whose own voice is more on a The Other Two level])


I got the impression from Hook's memoir that everyone in the band was lazy except Peter Hook.

He very fairly also gives the impression that everyone in the band hates going to work with him because he’s such a massive prick.

About the only kind thing he says about Gillian was how well the three worked together recording Republic before Sumner and Stephen Hague purportedly ruined it.

The Hague.

i have probably seen New Order around 10 - 12 times and all with Peter Hook. like others have said they are an ok band live, but it's not like seeing Depeche Mode or the Cure where it's an event. anyways, my friends really want me to go so i'm probably going and looking forward to seeing Pet Shop Boys for the first time.

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my first New Order show and look at this ticket on top. anyways this is just proving how old i am. lol. this must be the Low Life tour.

What they paid that night:

Nov 5, 1986 at the Hollywood Palladium, Los Angeles, California

1. Elegia
2. Paradise
3. Subculture
4. Sunrise
5. Your Silent Face
6. Sooner Than You Think
7. Angel Dust
8. Broken Promise
9. 5 8 6
10. Age of Consent
11. Bizarre Love Triangle
12. The Perfect Kiss
13. Sister Ray (The Velvet Underground cover)

from what I've seen of the Brotherhood clips on YouTube from this era, Sumner acquits himself okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANKjyeVfrKs

think I saw New Order in the 80s live more than any other band

thanks for posting the images Bee OK! I didn't vote in this but I like the results

I love the early New Order live recordings/clips, where Barney looked like he (and the rest of them) wanted to be anywhere else but there, like the 1983 TOTP performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTb2rZ0SBg4

Anyone else going to the Hollywood Bowl shows this year?

well, Sumner's had COVID twice, so maybe he has immunity.

They've postponed twice already, once in 2020 and once in 2021. Fingers crossed for this time.

I think they have always been a very uneven band live. The first time I saw them was in 1985. They were simply brilliant, one of the three best shows I've ever seen. This is almost a perfect setlist:

New Order, August 16, 1985, Rainbow Music Hall, Denver, CO

Sunrise
This Time of Night
Hurt
Thieves Like Us
5 8 6
Everything's Gone Green
The Village
Subculture
Denial
Confusion
The Perfect Kiss

Encore:
Ceremony
Blue Monday

Encore 2:
Temptation

Saw them again the following year, and they were shit. Completely phoning it in. I almost took it personally.

I had tickets for the original Hollywood Bowl dates in 2020, not sure if I'm going to still go. I feel like I have seen them enough times now.

I'm still planning to go. Also planning to see Peter Hook and the Light in June. Hoping I won't be too depressed by either event.