The Irish

Only man ever to be Taoiseach to save face

What manner of humiliation will he put up with for the Wikipedia category? We can only watch and hope

it's gonna be the tradeoff equivalent of when the greens agreed to the bank guarantee in return for closing three mink farms in donegal

anyway its been a busy week at work and a quiet week in politics, but rest assured i wouldnt let ye miss anything

fg have stayed very firm, have actually stepped up direct attacks on sf in order to leave ff the pressured candidate

sf candidates, actually under the eye of the media that were happy just to lol cordite the party during the campaign, starting to look a bit dodge

ff, the longer theyre left, are starting to develop collective nervous tics

the second captains podcast on the immediate aftermath was exceptional btw, it asked pretty much everything i wanted to hear asked and most of the answers left me better informed or thinking a little differently

Best electoral system in the woreld.

Yes I did see FG piling in on the SF candidate who was antisemitic

And like yes definitely fuck her out imo

But also

hmmm

FG like

The danger isn’t that SF will have dodgy candidates, the danger is that they’ll find a few more Mary-Lous and then everyone else is fucked

lol im running to irishtown for a kickabout, i demand u unpack that at length pls fore i return

Lol

A transparently dodgy candidate, any fool in the country can see that for themselves

However, the Mary Lou example is someone who has none of the previous associations and who is largely liked by much of middle Ireland. The danger is that SF select more candidates like her and then all the attacks are much harder to land.

I am very tired if this doesn’t make sense

ah i didnt see the critical 'else', my bad

i think sf

listen surely sv has a second captains subscription ffs, anything id say is kinda redundant until a few others could pick up the numerous threads arising from this podcast

football was a fuckin disaster so im somewhat repressible

He might but I barely have time or energy for my actual interests let alone podcasts like so

I prefer my political analysis in text form, ideally as obtuse as possible

fp

no no no absolutely not no
https://i.postimg.cc/DZ3S59rG/F717-DE55-DB05-4603-AD5-A-7914-A22859-AB.jpg
we do not need to take after the Brits with their shitty crisp flavours

Sv does not listen to second captains, make sure to direct one of those his way xp

xfp

i saw those tayto. will report back.

I've listened to a second captains or two, despite at best disinterest in sport, I think it might actually be a pleasant collection of accents (some of which I might not have considered pleasant previously).

but basically "I prefer my political analysis in text form, ideally as obtuse as possible"

the fps are for the o word, lads, just fyi re yr fps

You know I have been using the wrong fucking word? I meant oblique. Death to obtuse, oblique is the way.

My mum almost got adopted by the Coyle family in the 50s is a recurring story she tells me. Never sure if it is more tall stories, but there is the always the pleasant subtext that I wouldn't exist if she had!

which coyles now are they?

xp i am relieved. vm in favour of obliquity obv

af, they do the odd non-sport one, and make the odd one of those free access. p much always worth a listen id say

xp
the famous poTayto magnate family!

jaysus, huge if true

Don’t read the comments unless you want to spend the whole day laughing

“’Why do Irish people hate British people so much?’ We don’t hate British people. It’s only your government that we hate.” @KNEECAPCEOL answer all the stupid questions that Irish people get asked on the reg. pic.twitter.com/3AIGMeuUm7

— JOE (@JOE_co_uk) February 21, 2020

The curry chip flavoured tayto were a big disappointment

i mean whats the question?

do i hate the british, any british, or do i hate the british en masse, or do i hate the british empire or the british govt?

i mean, for a given definition doesnt everyone hate the british, really?

Just listening to Get Your Brits Out now and omg

I posted that on Brexit Night!

(fading in...) Look, I'm not saying that Julian Smith isn't the best Tory NI minister, I'm just saying that it's a low bar... (fading out)

Karren Bradley once corrected me when I said I was from Kerry. She said its sometimes called Londonkerry. Her aide/SPAD corrected her

— Sean-Diarmuid Kelliher (@SDKelliher) February 13, 2020

omg

LOL

The influence! (In NY state politics)

IMPORTANT BREAKING NEWS: You can get ashes (without sitting through Mass) at 1pm on the third-floor terrace of the Legislative Office Building.

As I’ve said previously, this is the best racket that Albany lawmakers run. If you see an Irish legislator, thank them.

— Jimmy Vielkind (@JimmyVielkind) February 26, 2020

I know I’ve posted links to him before, but seriously lads, follow Liam Hogan.

Saw this old thread pop up and I’d never seen it before.

The Economist, a free market publication founded in 1843 to repeal the Corn Laws, argued against intervention by the British government during the Great Famine by blaming the approx one million victims for their own deaths (1847) https://t.co/QiQYX7Qmn6

— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) August 11, 2019

As emaciated people starved to death with grass in their mouths @TheEconomist shrugged its shoulders: “the people, rapidly increasing, have been reduced, by acts for which they are chiefly to blame, to a sole reliance on the precarious crop of potatoes.”

— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) August 11, 2019

who would have guessed The Economist publication would be so fucking blind and deaf to an economics driven famine.

so I went to try to find out what the news was on yon government and

https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2020/0227/1118010-strabane-weapons-funeral/

https://img.rasset.ie/0013bd21-800.jpg

this story's very elliptical about how an axe fight broke out at this funeral

Oh silbs

I mean, I guess I know, but, I don't, at all

lol it looks like there is at least 2 plasterboard knifes/padsaws (whatever you call them) amongst that lot, very handy for cutting into dry-walls - not so sure they work so well as lethal weapons.

I meant how elliptical the story is, not the axe fight bit. It’s all very read-between-the-lines stuff! Deems maybe can back me up here (lol emigrant), but a lot of these stories are written as such cos all the locals know what/who it’s about? Same way the parents don’t bother using eircodes.

lol it looks like there is at least 2 plasterboard knifes/padsaws (whatever you call them) amongst that lot, very handy for cutting into dry-walls - not so sure they work so well as lethal weapons.

what

ye dont bring the hatchets to a wake in the midlands?

Irish Travellers

The ones in the top right and left corners look like padsaws to me. Probably could be deadly weapons in the right hands, but still they often snap when you try fucking up a drywall with them!

xxp only if it’s family

its been hinted that my maternal grandmothers ppl had a traveller name for their locality

ill remember it in a minute

but tbh wouldnt at all surprise me, wild isnt fuckin in it

that said, fuck all difference twixt yr stereotypical traveller and the avg fella from their stretch of the island too, which in all seriousness does give one thought to how a smart kid can get out of one situation but hardly ever the other.

Co.Leitrim (2 entries)

Informants in this smallest of counties treat it as part of a larger (northwestern) region.

1. [location in Co. Leitrim unclear]

McDonagh Leitrim, Longford, Roscommon

McCawley [sic] Leitrim, Longford, Roscommon

McGinley recent arrivals

“The first two families move about through Leitrim, Longford and Roscommon. I have not heard of McGnleys until recently.”

2. Coillte Clochair

Ward intermarried, & travel, with McDonaghs

McDonagh intermarried, & travel, with Wards

Crumlish confined to Donegal. “often live in houses for considerable periods – especially around Ballyshannon.”

Cawley

Coyle

Stokes Roscommon

“The Ward and McDonagh clan [sic singular] have intermarried and to a great extent travel together. They travel large areas of Donegal, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Leitrim, Cavan, Sligo and Mayo.” [= the whole northwest quarter of the island]

: “Strange to say I do not know of any tinker who can speak Irish fluently.”

notes that Traveller presence in the locality predates the first road (1846) because an old thorn tree at their camping spot on the pre-road route is known as “beggars’ bush”.

Counties Leitrim and Sligo

This single entry covers two counties

McDonagh Galway; horse trading

Maughan (Mohan) West. intermarried with McDonaghs. tinsmiths.

Ward Donegal. wire workers. intermarried with Mulrooneys.

MacMurrough ragmen. also known as the Casógs, Old Coats

Sommers

Caulderbanks

Coyle

Crumlish

Delaney Wexford. musicians (pipers)

Mulrooney intermarried with Wards

Riley

Doherty [not listed but mentioned in passing]

All come and go through the northwest.

All are more differentiated by TRADES than by geography.

“Most of the older McDonaghs Wards and Dohertys can and do speak Irish among themselves or when so addressed.” It would be interesting to know more about the informant, especially his own familiarity with Irish, as only one other entry makes such a claim and so many others (including the very next entry) specifically note Travellers’ inability to speak this language.

Co.Roscommon (1 entry)

Ballihadreen

Ward principal local group

McDonagh less frequent but fairly common

Sweeney less frequent but fairly common

“No local tinker knows Irish.”

interesting

That thread is how I found out Dublin bus scrapped the 10. I hope you’re very happy with yourself, deems.

a vicarious route eh

The only video from the latest royal visit worth acknowledging

Came to see the royals. Stayed to pat the dog #RoyalVisitIreland pic.twitter.com/iVof4pOoiS

— 𝗛𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗮𝗵 𝗠𝘂𝗿𝗽𝗵𝘆🎙 (@Hanelizaa) March 3, 2020

i live back the garden from the lads and see them at least once a month, this is what privilege looks like imo