physical attractiveness

yes THAT definition I knew

I suppose you could say that most jobs make use of some inequitably distributed advantage. Why should making money from your looks be more objectionable than making money from your intelligence, physical ability, etc.?

the issue isn't worthy of discussion/debate

not in the framework you intended

JRN otm

from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs imo. I’m a hot doctor who knows the heimlich and is good at tennis, venmo me btw

lol

from each according to what can be feasibly extracted, to each according to how hot they are

Main criticism of camming/onlyfans etc. is that the participants are opening themselves up to potential interaction with people who do “espouse” the “criticism” detailed above, and who may use this grievance as a motivation to cause the person in question some form of distress/harm.

The argument is evidently completely moronic/absurd.

haven't received my permission to post itt yet iirc

if hostility towards rvw is in fact genuine then fuck yiz for pricks tbh

I mean thoughtlording over whether sex work is bad is essentially what's going on here now

Sex work is bad because it conflicts with the extremely bad faith imaginary precepts of wokeness

Onlyfans seems if anything less obviously, horribly exploitative than the majority of pr0n production

I mean thoughtlording over whether sex work is bad is essentially what's going on here now

― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, February 19, 2020 3:47 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

by whom?? I'm just asking questions which should be obvious.

but maybe i am a moron if a notice a possible objection that is so apparently invalid

btw no one's shown how

whom are you "just asking questions" of, are you "just asking questions" like people "just asking questions" about race science or are you genuinely in need of some like introductory pamphlets about third wave feminism

yeah see

rvw has posted on this site for fuckin years and apparently a gang of ye have decided after one fuckin random thread a week back hes in the shithouse column

and its a shit fucking look

no one's shown how

all you've offered is so vague that it would not be possible to show how 'wokeness' is 'hypocritical' in this instance, because you are just handwaving what this wokeness is espousing that is incompatible with the actions you are not quite describing. Get down to cases, rip.

darragh u genuinely arguing we should be nicer around here? different tune than I remember you playing of late!

deems, you're off base. only one person responded with hostility toward rip personally, as opposed to the content of what he was posting. and I fp'd that hostile response, btw.

xps. to darragh. im a cunt to lots of people on here who have been acting the arse less than he is itt. and since when did you become the civility police? thought you were in the bring back dom club?

xxxxp i probably do need those pamphlets, but the issue of exploiting an inherent privilege is still there, and while i have no objections to anyone's choice to engage in sex work, there is something weird about having this big pool of like-minded tweeters out there and now the hot one's have this new way to make money and promote it on twitter

it does bother me (sincerely) that the way i brought this forth is so distasteful to some poster i really like like jiv and silby... it does seem like a moderately interesting topic though? i'm wondering how i could have changed my approach

(BUT i was full aware before starting this thread that ppl would gag and roll eyes, yet again there's something there worth discussing)

pffft civility police schmivility police

its the why and when ye decide to bull in to someone that as a group is bollox

gloves on or gloves off and not this "we'll decide when we're cunts"

nb i mayve been on the vinho verde but looks

ye want a community and ye bemoan the lack of that then ye descend on the least charitable interpretation of yer pet subjects like foaming dogs and whenever ye note that the site is in a nervous wreck ye attribute it to anything but this pinchnostril pack mentality

i think it might be worth looking at love ye x

Shouldn't you be concentrating on the Spurs game?

i wont stand over any of this in the mornin obv

xp better off drunk fighting online tbpfh

See what happens?

ffs

If you want to discuss it seriously, then get serious about it. define what you think is hypocritical and how that hypocrisy is damaging to people, in such a way that someone could respond seriously to it. don't just aw shucks your way into it and indicate there's something there, but you can't quite put your finger on it. if your finger can't touch it, don't expect us to locate it for you and refute it. if you want to be taken seriously, do your job.

great revive iirc

ffs

okay fair enough Aimless

RVW, I took your question seriously and asked a question in return. What did you think about it?

I think a lot of “body positive” / unconventionally attractive people get to make a little money from prurient material. In the grand scheme of things, that’s good imo. It also argues for the title of this thread being eroded over time.

Probably something to be said for the fact that people on average are taller, healthier, more symmetrical, and have better teeth now than ever before in human history. So on top of the definition being expanded to meet the “long tail” of various audiences, the average attractiveness of any given person is also increased. I feel the argument is rapidly becoming moot.

physical abraxasness

https://static.vibe.com/files/2015/09/carlos-santana-compressed.jpg

Plastic surgery more popular and widespread than ever.

It’s also cheaper and more widely available than ever.

I did read a piece about the “botox brow lift” explosion recently and looked at the before/after pictures of several celebrities and influencers who apparently chose that procedure. I didn’t feel sad, but I definitely didn’t feel attracted.

the amount of plastic surgery and other cosmetic procedures that is currently going on is fucking insane.

maybe i shouldn’t judge. to each their own. who am i to say what people should do with their own bodies. but i can’t help finding it pretty insane. i certainly find it unattractive, physically, about 90% of the time, and the other 10% is when i haven’t noticed it!

most people have certain strong attributes that they choose to and/or are forced to monetize or not.

re: modern plastic surgery aesthetics. I wonder if all of that will look very outdated soon/now. Like, with the heavy contouring/bronzing. Beauty standards change more rapidly now.

Despite discrimination, illness and general physical danger, I cant imagine wanting rid of corporeality, I love it. Not just physical beauty and sex but dancing, playing instruments, martial arts, running, jumping, nice baths, patting/scratching/stroking animals and much more.
Anybody really just want everything to be energy waves?

Marcos- you really think some people should hate their own bodies?

Rip Van Wanko - I'm not going to be presumptuous but what you said does sound a bit like the guys getting angry about girls on twitch getting an audience for their looks (recent stats say these girls aren't even in the top 20 streamers; not shocked that gamergaters are wrong again) or making easy money (I doubt this is ever actually easy).
It warms my porntimist heart to see so many people camming, onlyfans, manyvids, patreon etc. I just wish paypal and amazon would get more in on the act.

I do feel a bit guilty that I love one of my dogs more because she's more adorably cute than her sister and has a more emotional face. Some animal species surely fare better through their looks.

pinchnostril

is this body shaming???!?!?!?!?!? somehow?

Anybody really just want everything to be energy waves?

i very much enjoy corporeality and being in a body / my body but also ~~~~everything is already energy waves~~~ and to be fully oblivious of my separateness of those waves sounds pretty rad, it does entail oblivion though

Marcos- you really think some people should hate their own bodies?

some people do hate their bodies. what i meant is that it's not really my role (or anyone else's but theirs') to tell them that they should, in fact, love their bodies

I think it would be better to not care than to hate your body if you cant like it.