Anthony Braxton: Search and Destroy

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I'd never previously really connected with the man's music, but on a whim the other day I rescued Sextet (Victoriaville) 2005 from the dollar CD bin and I'm really enjoying it. It's a far cry from the brainy and occasionally bloodless music I (perhaps naively) dismissed many years ago. Turns out I may be a fan of Braxton's "ghost trance" era (despite having very little idea what that is in concept). Thinking I should hear more of his later material. Any suggestions?

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 15 February 2020 14:17 (four years ago) link

A friend of mine walked out of his last gig in London! So he's still provocative at least.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 February 2020 14:23 (four years ago) link

Any suggestions?

I remember liking Four Compositions (GTM) 2000, which is on Delmark, quite a bit at the time and, like you, being surprised by how entertaining and fun it was.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 15 February 2020 14:33 (four years ago) link

Thanks! That's the next one I'll check out. I feel like I'm about to enter a Braxton phase.

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 15 February 2020 14:42 (four years ago) link

Quartet (GTM) 2006 on Important is also a good one from that era.

Also, not Ghost Trance era but if you're unfamiliar with Braxton's 1980s quartet with Marilyn Crispell, Gerry Hemingway and Mark Dresser, check out the Leo Records releases from London and Coventry.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:07 (four years ago) link

i don't know if it's easy find these days, but graham lock's book forces in motion is a very readable account of that quartet's UK tour in 1985 (lock travelled with them) and also an introduction to braxton's work as a whole, which i think generally squishes the "brainy yet bloodless" perception -- a lot of it is pretty funny as i recall (often at lock's expense).

mark s, Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link

https://store.doverpublications.com/0486824098.html

^^^apparently an updated edition from a couple of years back

mark s, Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:22 (four years ago) link

Just found the Lock book for $9 with free shipping, so that's on its way here now.

That Important set looks great, but I may wait a bit before pulling the trigger on a box set.

I see that the Coventry disc (whose reputation precedes it, iirc) was released in full and also in a single-disc version (which of course is less expensive). I may grab the abridged version for now.

Thanks for all the helpful suggestions!

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:27 (four years ago) link

The Lock book is fucking fantastic (reissued last year). It absolutely cracked Braxton's music open for me, just because learning about him as a human being - his weird sense of humor and personality quirks - allowed me to think about what I was hearing in a completely different way.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:49 (four years ago) link

Braxton's 1980s quartet with Marilyn Crispell, Gerry Hemingway and Mark Dresser

^^^I love this group so much but have had mixed feeling any time I've tried to venture further into Braxton's catalog. Willisau (Quartet) 1991 is probably my favorite but generally just really enjoy everything they did.

cwkiii, Sunday, 16 February 2020 03:18 (four years ago) link

^^^ thread revive prompted me to put Willisau on tonight

Miami weisse (WmC), Sunday, 16 February 2020 04:02 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

always preferred the small group stuff before but duos are really working for me atm - recently released one with harpist jacqueline kerrod is great, as are the ones with miya masaoka, fred frith, derek bailey (who I don’t always love), max roach, richard teitelbaum, doubtless plenty more I haven’t heard yet

I feel like his larger scale long form compositions deserve more attention than they get, but they can be intimidating. what I’ve heard from the iridium set is great

it’s pretty shitty the treatment (or lack thereof) he’s received from classical gatekeepers- ditto for bill dixon, cecil taylor, ornette & others - for which i can think of reasons. some of the orchestral stuff I’ve heard could have been better performed/conducted/recorded. he has a right to be bitter about boulez and fucking zappa

the standards are enjoyable enough but don’t blow my mind like some of his other stuff does. maybe they’re not supposed to. idc about “not swinging” or “getting the changes wrong” as some jazz nerds complain but his playing is much more exciting elsewhere imo

three weeks pass...

Listening to the new Thumbscrew record and got the idea of cross-referencing his discography for multiple interpretations of the same composition...I'm guessing the below is the best resource for that? sadly outdated...

https://www.restructures.net/BraxDisco/BraxDisco.htm

cwkiii, Friday, 31 July 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link

ah.. thanks for the new Thumbscrew album alert, this sounds ace.

calzino, Friday, 31 July 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

Listening to the two duo albums Braxton recorded with Wadada Leo Smith live at Tonic in 2002/2003, Organic Resonance and Saturn, Conjunct the Grand Canyon in a Sweet Embrace.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 31 July 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link


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