pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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"redemption propaganda" is how i'd describe his previous album too

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link

saw SNL, why does he dress like he's selling drugs outside the Anger Management tour?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 February 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link

because he's a fucking moron?

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

he’s hilarious, just look at the man

brimstead, Friday, 14 February 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

A long piece titled We Didn’t Need the High Fidelity TV Show starts off by talking at length about how retrograde the book & movie were; spends a few paragraphs talking about how the new TV series (starring Zoe Kravitz) is better; but then -- citing the thesis of an older NY Times article -- concludes (again at length) that the show is nonetheless a drag, because it uses a gender-switch in an attempt to absolve the source material of its sins.

I guess this is a totally valid way to critique a TV show (and it's not poorly written)... but like the Bieber thing, it had me wondering, Who is this being written for?

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 04:58 (four years ago) link

FWIW, the answer to the article’s core question —

Is High Fidelity really so beloved (or its brand name so powerful) that they couldn’t have started from scratch on a series about music obsessives who aren’t exclusively straight white men?


— is that projects based on known IP have their own momentum; it’s not as if Hulu execs were likely sitting around looking for a “series about music obsessives” to fill a perceived niche.

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 05:05 (four years ago) link

Why spend all this time, money, and energy updating and changing the gender on source material that, in hindsight, is pretty dodgy about women? https://t.co/gKpWJ33b2Y

— Pitchfork (@pitchfork) February 14, 2020



What if Godzilla is, in hindsight, about nuclear war and not a big lizard

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 February 2020 05:09 (four years ago) link

It’s absolutely bananas to try and score woke points on High Fidelity for its toxic whiteboy masculinity when ... that’s ... literally what the movie was about.

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 February 2020 05:12 (four years ago) link

NEWS

Henry Rollins Cast as the Voice of Tri-Klops in Netflix’s He-Man Reboot

The animated series Masters of the Universe: Revelation will also star Mark Hamill, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Jason Mewes, and more

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

it's the role rollins was born to play

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link

I don’t think that news even makes the yearly activity summary enclosed with Rollins’ Xmas cards.

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link

Is High Fidelity really so beloved (or its brand name so powerful) that they couldn’t have started from scratch on a series about music obsessives who aren’t exclusively straight white men?

We're literally getting a Karn Evil 9 movie, the answer is "yes".

really looking forward to wearily scrolling past all your posts (Champiness), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

Another good retrospective review today.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/the-klf-chill-out/

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Sunday, 16 February 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link

I just came here to post that - one of the best things I've read in a long long time!

boxedjoy, Sunday, 16 February 2020 09:44 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that was a great read, even though I've never been able to crack that particular record.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Sunday, 16 February 2020 10:59 (four years ago) link

I love it up until the synths kick in

brimstead, Monday, 17 February 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link

Not "dumb", but I couldn't disagree with that Elkhorn review more strongly, I think it's a really great record.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link

The disparity seems stark between the positive tone of the Mhysa review (can’t wait to find a moment to check out this record), and its “6.9” rating(??)

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link

The 0.7 difference btw Elkhorn (negative review) and Mhysa (positive review) doin a lot of work

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link

Yeah that's a bummer for Elkhorn I really like those guys

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

when will Pitchfork stop trying to make the Men happen

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

Porridge Radio Make Indie Rock for the Angsty Antisocial in All of Us

triggercut, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 01:11 (four years ago) link

they’re a very good band

maura, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 02:58 (four years ago) link

not too hot 100?

j., Wednesday, 26 February 2020 03:52 (four years ago) link

The use of “Alleged” in this headline feels misplaced; it could be read as implying there is some doubt about the claim’s veracity. I would redo the entire headline... make it about her statement (which is lengthy), or public reappearance, not the assault.

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 07:07 (four years ago) link

That’s literally how news works though

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 08:09 (four years ago) link

Whiney OTM, this is an odd thing to complain about

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:25 (four years ago) link

The news is her statement; Pitchfork doesn’t have to evaluate whether it’s true or not (or hedge their bets on the question).

This Variety headline doesn’t follow my final suggestion(...); but see how it simply says “Says”. That seems right to me — she’s saying it, that’s what to report. “Alleged” feels like a weasel word, or something a student journalist throws in b/c they think it belongs.

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link

"alleged" is fine. that's what she's doing, alleging.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:52 (four years ago) link

Both are fine. You can even write "Duffy accuses X of Y." But "alleged" isn't a weasel word.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link

If you say so. She hasn’t accused anyone, the statement is purposefully vague.

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link

(anyone specific or identified)

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link

This is, without exaggeration, Reporting 101

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link

p4k has journalistic cred to maintain

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link

xp I’m open to being wrong. If she posted that she had been abused as a child (without saying anything more specific), would “Duffy Posts About Alleged Abuse” be appropriate?

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link

If you posted that your car was stolen, and read “Internet Guy Posts About Alleged Car Theft,” you wouldn’t be like — “hey, why call it an ‘allegation’? I was just telling a story about something that happened; why does its veracity have to be challenged in the headline?”

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

yeah i think an allegation has to have a target

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

I mean, journalism in general is supposed to have a skeptical stance and seek to confirm with facts and reporting

or it used to, who knows?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link

I guess whether or not Pitchfork does journalism is the question

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link

Which craft beer goes best w journalism?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link

They do say in the piece that they reached out to her reps.

Investigating the story may certainly be appropriate; but my point is that reporting on the initial Instagram post is not the place to express skepticism.

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link

"alleged" is absolutely correct. people having conversations aren't bound by journalistic standards & practices, but journalists should emphatically always report an allegation as an allegation.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:50 (four years ago) link

So you agree that “Duffy Posts About Alleged Child Abuse” would be appropriate if she mentioned that she had been abused?

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link

... YES

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

I’m open to being wrong

are you

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link

even for this thread this is such a weird argument

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

Yes, I’m open to being wrong, but nobody has made an argument beyond just saying that I am wrong.

If you report that someone said something (as Variety did), you’re not vouching that it’s true. And if no one specific is being accused of a crime, you’re not crossing any boundaries by simply reporting that someone said that a crime occurred.

Murdered-Out Highlander XLE (morrisp), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link

I think the “Duffy Opens Up About Alleged Assault” construction might be part of what is throwing morris - it reads as if the allegation was previously a known thing, and Duffy is now speaking more openly about it. Duffy Returns To Public Life, Alleges Horrific Assault might have not had the same confusing effect

even for this thread this is such a weird argument

this though

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 16:26 (four years ago) link

If you report that someone said something (as Variety did), you’re not vouching that it’s true. And if no one specific is being accused of a crime, you’re not crossing any boundaries by simply reporting that someone said that a crime occurred.

Yes you are. Reporting can be an ass, and I like to tell my student reporters that if they see a red car they don't need three sources to confirm its color. However, when it comes to crime you're dealing with hearsay and he said/she said. A crime occurs when police issue a crime report or confirm a crime was committed.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 16:30 (four years ago) link

In morrisp's defense, surely we can at least acknowledge that the word 'alleged' is a loaded one. Obviously it's a semantic issue (and I agree it's correct if we're gonna be all Strunk & White about it), but in casual conversation, if I asked roommate #1 if roommate #2 has done the dishes as per the chore wheel, and she replies "allegedly," I understand that the word is being deployed in this instance to sarcastically cast a certain amount of doubt about whether or not roommate #2 did in fact do the dishes, or whether he had done the dishes in a way that would now allow us to eat off of them, and I might go into the kitchen to see for myself

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link


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