Wherein We Elect Our Favourite Classical Compositions of… the 1930s

Sund4r, I can throw in the four Construction pieces as a bundle next week.

my choice will be very personal bc i've spent the most time with it for ludicrous reasons: berg's lulu

It is a pretty good decade, yeah, especially if you love violin concertos (I do).

And Lulu is an unfuckwithable pick, obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLuLsFjnCjI

this is only the first half of the 1996 glyndebourne production of lulu but it's phenomenal

Voted Bartok 4 in the last one, voting Bartok 5 in this one. Strong contenders for the best music ever written.

This decade is sort of a letdown after the 20s for me tbh.

As an addendum, here is Barbara Hannigan singing AND conducting the Lulu Suite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XatVOukxxtE

Ionisation

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Great decade, and also I forgot that some of these compositions were as late as the 1930s.

I just can't imagine preferring Ionisation to, say, Berg's Violin Concerto or – if percussion is your jam – Bartók's aforementioned Sonata or, like, Shostakovich's 4th Symphony with that sweet coda appended to the Scherzo that he would later reuse in the 2nd Cello Concerto and the 15th Symphony.

Care to expand, Varèsians?

I'm seeing Hannigan doing that in a couple of months, I think :)

Curse you! Copenhagen seems like a pretty sweet place to live when you're a classical fan, especially if you've got tastes along the lines of mine.

Dunno... I don't feel like I'm that good at taking advantage of it, then. Especially since both my parents works/have worked with classical music, and still get a lot of free tickets to stuff.

Agree with sund4r that this decade is a bit of a step down after the 20s but... fucking bartok. He owns this one, that there is as good a decade as any composer has ever had. So hard to choose between MSPC, the 2 piano sonata, quartet 5 and pno cto 2!

Credible challenges from RVW 4th (his moment of all out rage) and Walton 1st (by far the best thing I’ve ever heard by this composer and one of the all time great debut symphonies) and Oedipe which should be heard by anyone who loves the succulent pelleas vybe

And Bartok violin cto 2! It’s a five way bela for first.

Hear, hear. Walton's Viola Concerto is worth hearing as well, but I haven't found as much to love in the rest of his output, I'm afraid.

i adore the ravel piano concerto, just gonna lock that one in and not overthink it

Listening to that Smithsonian Folkways disc of Cowell's piano music right now and it is indeed quite remarkable. Some of these pieces are downright Bartókian – not quite what I expected.

oh dang the walton symphony is definitely my type of thing

^ ditto.

It's a fine decade. I feel like can dip into that playlist* pretty much anywhere and dig it. For whatever reason, I couldn't really say that a few decades earlier. Broader familiarity is probably a factor but things I've not knowingly heard before (eg. the Britten concertos I'm listening to right now) are also effortlessly attractive. Presumably composers were using something closer to the Language Of Our Own Time, or something. :)

* thanks for those recommendations, pomenitul. I immediately switched over to those where necessary, all those days ago.

Went with rhapsody on a theme from Paganini

All in all, the Berg concerto would be my POO, but it's bound to get at least a couple of votes (at least I hope so), which is I'm tempted to go with yet another underdog.

pvmic I'm giving my vote to Britten's Illuminations, though it could've been Berg, Bartók's Piano Concerto or any of the Varèse's. (and I haven't yet heard this Enescu, a new discovery for me thanks to these polls.

My preferred variations on Paganini are from Lutosławski

(Which I'd like to see on the next decade's shortlist btw.)

Noted.

Villa-Lobos - Cinq préludes and obv Cage - Sonatas and Interludes for Prepared Piano too, plz.

Already on the list (I love those Villa-Lobos Preludes btw, and the Sonatas and Interludes are among the Cage works I appreciate the most).

Lulu or Ionisation.

Post Cowell talk -- and this could be tough -- but hopefully a Nancarrow player piano piece can be included.

The coming decades will include some Nancarrow, yeah.

the 1940s includes some ridiculously heavy hitters from Messiaen, Shostakovich and Britten, plus final testaments of Strauss and Bartok, entree Cage, a bunch of american modernisms, yikes

A few 40s faves I'd like you to consider:

--some Jolivet, maybe Danses Rituelles?
--Martinu #4 or #5
--Koechlin's huge orchestral masterpieces come in this decade (Offrandre Bach, Docteur Fabricius, Buisson Ardent) - pls include at least one!
--RVW #6 and #7 (or instead of #7, the Scott of the Antarctic film score)
--Bachianas Brasilieras 7 or 8 (the huge crazy ones)
--Herrmann: either Citizen Kane or The Ghost & Mrs Muir or both
--Waxman: Rebecca film score
--Miklos Rozsa: The Lost Weekend film score

Martinů #4, RVW #5 & #6 for sure (#7 was completed in 1952). Some Kœchlin would definitely be nice. I don't think there will be room for the others but I'll do my best.

Are you taking a ‘no music for films’ stance in order to make your job easier? (If so I understand)

I think it's wiser, especially since it's not a realm I know much about in the first place (I'm not much of a film guy in general).

Someone should totally do a soundtrack/film music poll, though.

That’d be me I guess
I think we MIGHTve done one for horror scores?

I think we just have a thread for it, not a poll.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

MSPC

I couldn't front in the end. Rodrigo's Spanish slab of schlock is the one of these I've listened to the most.

Some of the most enjoyable schlock there is tbf. I wouldn't have included it otherwise.

Surprised no one nailed 95 theses about how my deliberate omission of Carmina burana is proof positive that this poll series is an exercice in elitist corruption.

We all knew that from the very first poll though 😉

(I will say that my tour de force performance on the timpani during the West Sussex youth symphonic wind band’s performance of CB back in the day is the stuff of legend)

Probably more like I just didn’t remember what decade CB came out in.

As a young child CB was etched into my brain as "the theme from Old Spice" so I could never take it seriously even before the nazi shit. It's probably objectively good tho, or at least Magma wouldn't have existed without it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rbZr7YoqK0

God bless the internet

i sang in CB as a teenager, this is the passage i remember most clearly: "trilirivos trilirivos trilirivos"

a translation page says this word "defies analysis"

It's crypto-fascist Latin iirc.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Not a single vote for the Berg Concerto? Madness! And I allowed it to happen!

It was on my shortlist.

I keep favouring things I've previously underrated instead. The Schoenberg, I think, in this case. I enjoyed getting (better) acquainted with the Revueltas, Falla, Szymanowski, Crawford Seeger and Britten as well. I suspect I spent more time listening to this 50 than any other!

I’m on the winning team for once!

No Magma without carmina burana means no Magma without les noces...

A worthy winner, to be sure.

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Wherein We Elect Our Favourite Classical Compositions of… the 1940s