the least worst of the (major-ish) moderate 2020 democratic presidential candidates

“applies to everyone” re One really gets the impression he regards democracy or egalitarianism as something of a nuisance that is

Y'know, I'm just thankful for the moment that the viable dem candidates aren't limited to just this pack of clowns and nonentities this time around.

Yet, anyway.

Klobuchar is an abusive asshole who doesn't want to do anything for anybody and yet somehow less repellent on a gut level than Buttigieg. She also can't stand him, which is another point for her. Biden may be "harmless" now but in the way Junior Soprano was harmless toward the end. Bloomberg is as close to an actual monster as you can get.

going to be real bummed out if Warren saddles up w Klobuchar

Klobuchar's instinct to court every possible vote from every possible voter, including anti-abortion voters, would seem to make internal sense to a politician who before all else wants to be elected. The problem is that anti-abortion voters tend to be single-issue voters and the Republicans have courted them for decades through strong and consistent support for anti-abortion policies, so there's no reason on earth to think that, given a choice between strong, guaranteed anti-abortion policies and wishy-washy 'open-mindedness', an anti-abortion voter would choose wishy-washy. Ever.

So, what on earth is going on in Klobuchar's head to think otherwise?

I just assume it's a Cenobite dance party 24/7

everyone listed here is a lying dog-faced pony soldier

staplerhead xp

I believe I prefer Hillary Clinton to all of them.

lock board

ilx is complete

looooool

the Dems can always get worse, and do

NV culinary union declines to endorse anyone, imagine this is probably the end for biden

I imagine there is probably some potential middle ground on abortion between “all abortion is murder” and “any abortion restriction is patriarchal hegemony”. You’re not going to win over the single issue voters but there could be some folks out there who are sympathetic to restricting abortion but would like an excuse to vote Democratic.

oops sorry for wrong thread

I imagine there is probably some potential middle ground on abortion between “all abortion is murder” and “any abortion restriction is patriarchal hegemony”.

― o. nate, Thursday, February 13, 2020 1:53 PM (one minute ago)

nah

yeah absolutely not

otm

all abortion is the business of the woman having the abortion and any person she chooses to involve in her decision

that's it

I was speculating on the existence of political middle ground not on the actual morality of the issue.

at this point tho anybody who views this as a real right worth protecting also surely realizes that all the "middle ground" stuff works to enable the ongoing bit-by-bit nationwide onslaught against that right by a thousand cuts. and those who view abortion as an evil aren't going to vote for anyone who recognizes it as a right.

i wasnt really clued into klobey’s environmental record
https://centeractionfund.org/environmental-report-card/?fbclid=IwAR1jIGzvJnQOltGmTKY3axHmWNXpQ3Y1bG9CTHmNlYyyngF-PdP8ftQz8O8#Methodology
I tried to figure out if that was reliable info, the “methodology” was pretty general.

fbclid=IwAR1jIGzvJnQOltGmTKY3axHmWNXpQ3Y1bG9CTHmNlYyyngF-PdP8ftQz8O8#Methodology

the middle ground is that if you are personally anti-abortion don't get one

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Buttigieg has been really rubbing me the wrong way since I voted. I guess Biden then?

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On a pure stylistic level Klobuchar appeals to me the most out of this crowd, but I'm not sure her kind of snarky, back-of-the-classroom persona would translate well to a national stage that likes passion and the "vision thing". Whatever his other flaws, Buttigieg at least gets that, and he's not a million years old or a billionaire, so I guess I probably should have voted for him.

too late amy’s the new president now

pete
amy
biden

bloomberg

gabbard.

bloomberg worse than gabbard imo

i agree but that might be influenced by the fact that bloomberg is much more likely to become president than gabbard is

“Back-of-the-classroom persona” is so on point from casual obv