Top 77 Television and Streaming Video Series of 2019

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#40 (Tie) - Desus and Mero (Showtime) - 40 points, 5 votes

bodega boys desus nice & the kid mero aka's poll

Desus and Mero on Showtime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNklJTlwws

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:36 (four years ago) link

love these dudes so much...but i don't have showtime.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

it's worth the investment! they also post about half an hour of content every week

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link

on youtube that is.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link

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#39 - The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (Amazon) - 40 points, 6 votes

The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel

The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel on Amazon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76bH1b9XreE

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:56 (four years ago) link

bad + sorta antisemitic show sorry to fans :(

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link

it's worth the investment! they also post about half an hour of content every week

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:43 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

on youtube that is.

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:43 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah that's where i experience most of their stuff (plus twitter, obviously)

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link

first season of maisel was good, feeling pretty ok with my decision to not keep up, especially since i don't have a vote in any major award shows.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link

Was going to jump in with 'TOO LOW', but saw Mordy's post. The antisemitism has clearly gone straight over my head, but I know the show's creators aren't exactly great with subtlety or nuance, so I'm not super surprised, but can you direct me to what is so off about it so I can understand better?

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:06 (four years ago) link

would like to make it abundantly clear that tt is on her own with this one, even more so than bloody Gilmore Girls, which I gather this is some sort of edgier reboot of

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:08 (four years ago) link

That's my 3rd (I think) to show up. Stath Lets Flats is fantastic and I completely ignored it because British comedy until imago's incessant positivity got me interested so props to him

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imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:18 (four years ago) link

I barely watch Desus & Mero anymore but that’s more than any other talk show.

Chris L, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:20 (four years ago) link

PEN15 is great! Thank you ulysses for this one. The pop culture references concerning being a nerdy teen in the early 00s are so painfully on point that I can't not love it. The AIM episode killed me.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link

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#37 (Tie) - Corporate (Comedy Central) - 41 points, 6 votes

Corporate on Comedy Central

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gmyg43jE_4

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link

and one more just to get me out for the night

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link

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#36 - Broad City (Comedy Central) - 45 points, 5 votes

ah fuck it it's the BROAD CITY thread

Broad City on Hulu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNFRG_qGJ3o

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link

(not 100% sure Mordy doesn't mean Desus & Mero!)

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link

xp to Corporate: And another! This season was so strong. The male makeup episode was one of my favourite episodes of anything last year. The soullessness and labyrinthine contours of the office building are some stunning set design.

tangenttangent, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:31 (four years ago) link

Didn't see much Corporate but enjoyed what I did

imago, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link

Corporate maybe my 2nd or 3rd vote to show up. Frequently a riot.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link

Was going to jump in with 'TOO LOW', but saw Mordy's post. The antisemitism has clearly gone straight over my head, but I know the show's creators aren't exactly great with subtlety or nuance, so I'm not super surprised, but can you direct me to what is so off about it so I can understand better?

sorry didn't mean to drop that bomb and then just walk away. it's that its depiction of jewishness - predominately by a non-jewish cast - feels very caricatured and false/superficial to me I could really hardly watch it for this reason. this emily nussbaum article touches on some of the other problems i have with the show. antisemitic is maybe overstating it but there's just an uncomfortable falseness i feel when i watch it and particularly bc of how it portrays jewishness (and judaism) not in an obviously pejorative way but in a kind of superficial + shallow one.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:39 (four years ago) link

it portrays everything in a caricatured and superficial tone tbh. it's a total fantasia of show business, of wealth, of creativity, of performed comedy, of social progress, and of cultural jewishness.

first season of maisel was good, feeling pretty ok with my decision to not keep up

I did the same, but caught lots of the later two when my housemate was watching them recently and I think it gets better. there were a couple of eps in S3 that I went back and finished myself bcz I got caught up in the bits I'd seen.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link

Corporate was good, at least the half season I saw of it. Didn’t vote for it cause I still have five episodes to go.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:59 (four years ago) link

Need to use more exclamation points in my emails!

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:59 (four years ago) link

Considered voting GoT in one those "give the Oscar to someone to acknowledge their previous snubs" type situations, but couldn't do it. man, the last season was disappointing

Leeee summed up my thoughts on the Dragon Prince rather well so I'll just say more people should check it out

Vinnie, Thursday, 13 February 2020 00:57 (four years ago) link

I haven’t heard of Stath Lets Flats but I liked Jamie Demetriou in Fleabag

Dan S, Thursday, 13 February 2020 01:12 (four years ago) link

didn’t think the main character’s turn in Season 8 of GoT was surprising at all, they were autocratic and uncompromising from the beginning, and the events in previous seasons seemed to be predicting it

Dan S, Thursday, 13 February 2020 01:13 (four years ago) link

PEN15 and Broad City were my #1 and #3, respectively. The latter arguably provided the former a template, tho filtered thru an uneasy, uncanny recent-part period filter that is never scared to verge on creepy. Broad City, in an age of shows peaking early and burning out quick (Maisel), somehow managed to roll up shop at just the right time and the finale was gut-wrenching.

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link

Shows I voted for: Dark Crystal. Puppets >>> CGI, amazing turn from Simon Pegg as the Chancellor. Tuca and Bertie. I wasn't totally convinced by the middle, but the last episode or two really made
it worthwhile. Shame it was cancelled.
Shows I have seen and didn't vote for: Mortimer & Whitehouse - a bit too gentle for me. The Good Place - made it through half of the first season, meh.
Shows I might have voted for except somehow I missed that they were nominated: Pose.
Shows I have seen earlier seasons of and wish I could have voted for but they moved to a service I don't subscribe to: The Expanse. Have just found a site where I can stream Picard so might see if they have this too.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Thursday, 13 February 2020 08:48 (four years ago) link

didn’t think the main character’s turn in Season 8 of GoT was surprising at all, they were autocratic and uncompromising from the beginning, and the events in previous seasons seemed to be predicting it

The turn itself wasn't surprising, but the actual way it happened came completely out of nowhere, and the rather horrific things the character did weren't really justified by anything they'd done earlier.

Tuomas, Thursday, 13 February 2020 09:47 (four years ago) link

Executing a friend for being traitor: made sense with how the character had been portrayed before. Mass murder of innocent people, seemingly on a whim: didn't make much sense.

Tuomas, Thursday, 13 February 2020 09:49 (four years ago) link

I think they had done plenty in previous seasons, it was clearly a conflict within the character which finally broke in the wrong direction (the mass murder seemed like "fuck it, I'm going to accept this is who I am now"), in writing terms you could see the path to it laid out - it wasn't written particularly well, that's all.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 February 2020 09:53 (four years ago) link

(the mass murder seemed like "fuck it, I'm going to accept this is who I am now"

But that's exactly why it didn't make sense... In earlier seasons the show had done a lot to make even its villains psychologically complex, and to make their actions coherent with their motivations and goals. A character being, like, "well, I guess I'm a villain now, might as well kill all these innocent people who've already surrendered" is the opposite of that.

Tuomas, Thursday, 13 February 2020 10:05 (four years ago) link

But people really do behave in that way, the "motivation and goals" method of character development really fails to capture so much about the way humans really work, especially as applied in this show. If it had been written a little better it would have been exactly right.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 13 February 2020 10:55 (four years ago) link

there's just an uncomfortable falseness i feel when i watch it and particularly bc of how it portrays jewishness (and judaism) not in an obviously pejorative way but in a kind of superficial + shallow one.

That absolutely follows, and that article is generally on point about the show's easy saccharine choices. I enjoy it (like Gilmore Girls) whilst acknowledging the many flaws, including that the creator has an almost surreal need to shower the central character (Maisel, Rory) with levels of praise beyond the pale. But the costumes are so good.

Would be interested to know what shows you think do portray Jewishness well.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 13 February 2020 11:55 (four years ago) link

For all its myriad flaws, transparent did a pretty good job of representing my personal experience with Reform Judaism (though the Pfeffermans’ was a distinctly west coast version, I’m east coast)

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 13:39 (four years ago) link

man i have no idea what 90% of these shows are

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 February 2020 14:33 (four years ago) link

Truthpoint is one of the shows I watch but didn't vote for, but it's cool it made it.

Chris L, Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link

i love Corporate. it's occasionally a little try-hard in its jadedness but overall the combo of cynicism and absurdism meshes almost perfectly with my personal tastes. "make-up for men" was definitely a stand-out episode, and the one where jake is trying to stay up to go to his friend's rock show is a masterpiece of goofiness.

na (NA), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link

I'm sad there's only one season left, feels like they just hit their stride.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link

oh and Goofy Lance Reddick is amazing to watch

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:19 (four years ago) link

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#32 (Tie) - High Maintenance (HBO) - 45 points, 6 votes

High Maintenance - Very good web-series. Discuss.

High Maintenance on HBO Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTL9hSrMhTQ

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link

I'm sad there's only one season left, feels like they just hit their stride.

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:18 AM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

really? dang.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:36 (four years ago) link

Oh I saw the make-up for men episode I think! Great stuff

imago, Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:47 (four years ago) link

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#32 (Tie) - Derry Girls (Channel 4, Netflix) - 45 points, 6 votes

Catch yourself on - it’s the Derry Girls thread!

Derry Girls on Netflix Website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8fH2Lqc8nY

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link

Too low! But I guess it's U.K. only?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link

I've seen it in my Netflix. (I'm a Yank.)

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link

yeah it's available in the US, and it's fun

sleeve, Thursday, 13 February 2020 16:37 (four years ago) link


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