Orbital - Snivilisation

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and why would you replace it with a track from in sides

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link

Crash and Carry isn’t even among the lesser tracks on Sniviliasation, but in any event I wouldn’t change any of them, the album is about the shifts between sharply contrasting moods.

Tim F, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:25 (four years ago) link

agreed

its definitely one of the lesser tracks but it's fairly catchy for what it is

frogbs, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:53 (four years ago) link

"fairly catchy for what it is" is the best anyone's been able to come up with. zero people voted for it in the poll. it bangs on for 4:43. the main riff is too insistent to ignore, but doesn't have anything to say. some flute-like noises in the background try to create the illusion that something exciting is happening, like people hiding behind papier-mâché masks on sticks. it doesn't groove, it's not repetitive enough to trance out to - it lacks a rationale.

lukas, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link

I like Crash and Carry. I had a great time driving too fast to it on a Florida summer night.

OneSecondBefore, Thursday, 13 February 2020 05:17 (four years ago) link

and why would you replace it with a track the worst track from in sides

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Thursday, 13 February 2020 07:49 (four years ago) link

I don't mind Crash And Carry but yes it's the weakest thing on the album (Quality Seconds is more fun and thankfully quite brief)

nashwan, Thursday, 13 February 2020 11:49 (four years ago) link

This has grown on me a lot in the last five years or so and Crash & Carry in particular.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 February 2020 13:41 (four years ago) link

It does feel like a holdover from the Brown Album but they probably surmised they needed at least one banger on there.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 February 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link

"Crash and Carry" isn't my favorite track on the album but it's in my top 3. Getting no votes in a "top choice only" poll doesn't mean no one likes it.

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 13 February 2020 14:02 (four years ago) link

it doesn't groove, it's not repetitive enough to trance out to - it lacks a rationale.

that's kind of the point of it isn't it? every track on the album is weird. this one's a banger but it stutters around and trips up the beat. it's obviously not a key track on the album but without it I feel like it would be missing something.

frogbs, Thursday, 13 February 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link

it's in my top 3

that means you like it more than 3 of the following:

Forever
I Wish I Had Duck Feet
Kein Trink Wasser
Are We Here?
Attached

my post was a little extreme but you've gone round the bend

and why would you replace it with a track the worst track from in sides

that's true but it's essentially the same track as Crash and Carry, but better

lukas, Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

the best album ever

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 13:38 (two years ago) link

as a drummer all the tiny snare rolls in "sad but true" give me a visceral thrill

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

I'm not a drummer but same

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

This album provided substantial levity and brightness to my days in high school, when little else did. Even now, it still acts as an emotional salve when I put it on.

octobeard, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link

really opened the doors for me to realize what electronic music was capable of. I still very vividly remember driving down the highway at the age of 17 and when "I Wish I Had Duck Feet" came on and it just blew my mind. nowadays its all about the last 2 tracks for me but obviously the whole thing is very much classic. crazy they haven't repressed it yet!!

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link

It really is such a good album.

I'm curious as to what (if any) external sources what feels like such a leap forward from the Brown Album in terms of production and sound design. Snivilisation feels like such an archetypally mid-90s electronic album to me (in the sense of Bjork's Post) but it's hard to think of anything that pre-dated it that might have provided the template for it except in fairly loose or sparing senses (A Guy Called Gerald and other early jungle for "Are We Here?" for example). Though I suspect they listened to the first two Black Dog albums a bit.

Tim F, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 05:00 (two years ago) link

* sources inspired what feels like...

Tim F, Wednesday, 12 May 2021 05:01 (two years ago) link

Rapidly heading towards being 30 years old. Holy shit.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 12 May 2021 05:30 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

man how did they come up with this stuff. like "Are We Here?" dropping the main hook 10 minutes into the track, completely turning it from this crazy jungle build up to what sounds like an actual pop single, without really losing any of the stuff from the first part. that's such a cool way of thinking of a 15 minute epic.

frogbs, Sunday, 8 January 2023 04:22 (one year ago) link

my favorite song of theirs I think

octobeard, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:25 (one year ago) link

the first version I ever heard was the "They Did It" remix

StanM, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:44 (one year ago) link

just like the original post, i was not ready to hear this album at the time. always thought InSides and the brown album were masterpieces; but this never caught on with me. and it is kinda of like an awkward in between album - but also very good. can't believe i didn't realize it's brilliance until 25 years later.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 8 January 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link

At least where I grew up, I remember hearing Are We Hear in DJ sets but *just* the early bits. I was extremely confused when I later saw the video for it and it was practically a different song.

I agree with the favorite song of theirs bit tho.

Xii, Sunday, 8 January 2023 19:32 (one year ago) link

Kein Trink Wasser is my favourite Orbital track

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 8 January 2023 20:16 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

this is the greatest album of all time

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 April 2023 14:28 (one year ago) link

I rank In Sides over it but I think it’s their 2nd-best album

castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 13 April 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link

yeah I agree with that, here's how I break it down to an extent

In Sides > Snivilisation > Brown > Green > Middle of Nowhere > others

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 13 April 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link


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