Green Day: C/D?

Okay I'm at work and I'm 5 songs in and... Okay, the ad campaign was ridiculous, and the change of direction is ridiculous and the whole thing is daft, but... Am I kind of secretly enjoying this? Much more than whatever I heard on that awful trilogy anyway...

i've also been having fun revisiting nimrod instead of listening to the new record. "redundant" is a great power-pop song

new record better than the trilogy otm

I always listened to Nimrod at arm's length. You know that point in your teenage years where you're painfully aware that your favourite band might have sold out because suddenly everyone's singing along to the songs? (not that people didn't know all the words to Dookie, but the difference between being a 14 y/o listening to Dookie and 17 y/o listening to Nimrod was significant)

but like you Brad, I'm going back to Kerplunk and the stretch from 80 to No One Knows is a serious madeleine moment

He would also state that the lyrics are about "the life AND death of the party" and the "lifestyle of not giving a fuck."

this album sounds too intense for me, might steer clear

i've always felt nimrod was a little uneven with its mix of genre shuffling and the classic green day sound you know and love, but "uptight" gets it just right by being both. maybe their best song

insomniac: 32 minutes, not one of them wasted

this was my gateway band to rock music that wasn't the beatles or beach boys and every time i revisit insomniac i remember 1) being confused out that it came out so quickly after dookie, like was this a real new record? 2) having that dubiousness sort of confirmed by the runtime even though i bought the cassette and didn't actually know how long it was but the songs really whipped by. "no pride" was my favorite at the time 3) thinking "geek stink breath" was such an ugly, gnarly song yet so so catchy and every time i turned on mtv i hoped to catch the (gnarly, ugly) video

insomniac confused me a bit too. not sure what the release schedule was in the UK but I was still quite young at the time so the gap between the two albums didn't feel that short

i think i ended up getting dookie for christmas '94 (in my stocking, which now that i think about it, is a very funny joke by my parents), so by the time october '95 rolled around i was like "fuck i gotta buy another green day album now???"

I had a few friends totally into that Gilman Street scene. One of them had not one, not two, but three Green Day tattoos ... before "Dookie" came out. That's kinda like getting a Raffi tattoo right before he released "Singable Songs for the Very Young."

Anyway, I was never into them, but I did see them play a small club show right when "American Idiot" came out. They played the whole album and introduced the expanded band, then played a long greatest hits set, and I thought, huh, I guess they do have a lot of great hits. It was a really good show.

One of them had not one, not two, but three Green Day tattoos ... before "Dookie" came out.

lol i think this is so rad

I sort of feel like this is the most effortless Green Day since Warning, I kinda dig it if I'm being honest.

xpost lol though I suppose there was good reason to believe that Green Day's ceiling was being as big as Op Ivy

I'm still regretting my three pre-Schubert Dip EMF tattoos

i think i ended up getting dookie for christmas '94 (in my stocking, which now that i think about it, is a very funny joke by my parents), so by the time october '95 rolled around i was like "fuck i gotta buy another green day album now???"

― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, February 11, 2020 5:50 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Hah, me too. Well, my (French who lived in the US) grandparents brought it with them as a gift. Apparently they'd gone into a shop and asked the clerk what a 14 y/o boy would want. I'd seen Green Day doing 'Welcome To Paradise' as a live stream on Top Of The Pops only weeks ago and had been enthralled. I don't think I'd ever seen actual rock music being performed in that particular way and I thought it was incredible.

21st century breakdown is the best green day album though

― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 1:26 AM (seventeen hours ago)

i don't care at all about green day beyond thinking the dookie singles are pretty good but i really wanna know what could possibly be the justification for this

haven't heard the album but I'm gonna just be humoured by the idea it's a pvmic

If I was going to challops a best Green Day album I'd go for Warning. It hit a sweetspot being more mature than the jacking off/sniffing glue era but without being as dull as everything that came after.

i don't care at all about green day beyond thinking the dookie singles are pretty good but i really wanna know what could possibly be the justification for this

― ufo, Wednesday, February 12, 2020 2:31 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

strongest melodies of their career, all in a row. my previous fav was warning

also, idk, i think the “american idiot but MORE” gambit works, the songs are all really tight and propulsive and full of surprises, even the ballads (there’s nothing as turgid and unendurable as “wake me up when september ends” for instance), and it helps that the singles from it weren’t turned into wallpaper by radio overplay. the “story” is incomprehensible and pointless but i connect way more with its apocalyptic vibe than american idiot’s “anti-bush record that is secretly a breakup album” thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzJf2PPbJeQ

Kerplunk! is a great record but it seems the pre Dookie stuff doesn't count as part of their discography

(there’s nothing as turgid and unendurable as “wake me up when september ends” for instance)

This song invades my head every time I'm outside and it starts raining (here comes the rain again/falling from the stars) and I just wish someone would put me out of my misery.

If I was going to challops a best Green Day album I'd go for Warning. It hit a sweetspot being more mature than the jacking off/sniffing glue era but without being as dull as everything that came after.

I don't feel like this is challops in the least, that's such a great record.

it's fair to say Green Day album cover art has been on a steep and steady decline since Dookie (which has fantastic cover art). 21st CB has one of the worst album covers of all time.

Not sure if we included 'International Superhits' in the Great Millennial Colour Drought' thread

Warning is like their Huevos or Lodger, just out there on its own, a great record that's been slept on.

it's fair to say Green Day album cover art has been on a steep and steady decline since Dookie (which has fantastic cover art). 21st CB has one of the worst album covers of all time.

― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:15 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

imo the insomniac art is their best, wish they had stuck with that collage style

the 21st century breakdown art is godawful but the trilogy is even worse. and father of all motherfuckers is somehow even worse than that

otm, Insomniac is such a great cover, with Dookie a close second.

I think Father of All is saved from being the worst by how it, almost literally, shits on the cover for one of their more iconic, Broadway show spawning albuns.

i mean i sort of appreciate it for that reason but it's still horrible to look at

oh, absolutely horrible to look at, but beats the 2012 trilogy even so.

i remember seeing an array of posters of the uno! cover in brooklyn and thinking "i am never listening to that album"

i am revisiting the trilogy for some reason, idk, i guess i like sorta masochistic projects. anyway this is sooooooooooooo embarrassing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDX0kmzC3J4

a song with that title shouldn't be rocking *less* than recent U2 guitar hero sings or a perturbed Coldplay performance.

*guitar hero singles

it helps that the singles from it weren’t turned into wallpaper by radio overplay

weird that so much recent Green Day reminds me of Northern European rock acts - the Hives, even a bit of Ghost

isn't that just due to them sucking too

been spending more time with the new one. this is definitely the best green day song in a decade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDCReEFO-5M

I heard "Meet Me On the Roof" in the wild yesterday while I was out getting lunch, didn't sound bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAmulKjcHoo

i take back what i said almost four years ago, THIS is the best green day song in more than a decade

I’m… actually kinda enjoying a new Green Day song/video, didn’t see that coming

I wonder how Billie Joe felt making this video

didn't know they still had it in em

nothing revolutionary but compares favourably with blink's attempts to reconcile pop punk with middle age (green day's too for that matter)

the drugs and alcohol are always a worry but i can't really throw stones on that front

Why don't their faces age at all ever

botox