Oscars 2020

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Guessed right 21 out of 24 categories last night - sound editing, director and best doc were the ones I got wrong - I should have placed a bet online.

I am so happy Parasite won.The only other winner from the past decade that was a personal favorite of mine was Birdman. But I think almost no-one else I know in real life cares about it or was as excited about it as I was. Parasite, on the other hand, is one of those weird instances were the movie can somewhat qualify as an 'art film' but the script is entertaining enough for the general public to appreciate it without going into the craft that casual moviegoers only enjoy passively - production design, cinematography, editing, etc... - I think this is the first Oscar winner in years that I've heard praise from both my family and friends that are least interested in cinema and my most cinephile friends.

It's seriously such a well crafted movie, even if you don't care for the overall script I will ignore your opinion if you can't find a single good thing to say about this film. Even the most purist movie lover should find something to like in that Hitchcock-inspired peach scene, which was worth the edition nomination for that scene alone.

I think it's a masterpiece and the exact good will that was needed from the academy after that Green Book win. All is forgiven.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link

I had 20/24 in an online contest. The winner had 23 (obv a Parasite rider).

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link

i mean, i didn't even try THAT hard

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link

I'm sorry, Eminem performed at the Oscars last night? Eminem the rap music man?

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 10 February 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link

I like Rob Sheffield's line on Eminem: "It was the Oscars’ equivalent of giving a Presidential Medal of Freedom to Rush Limbaugh."

clemenza, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link

I spent a couple minutes this morning trying to guess what he'd have performed and the most relevant thing was the ending credits song from Venom

mh, Monday, 10 February 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link

i'm a softie i guess but the standing o for eminem was the co-highlight of the night for me (alongside Parasite win). you gotta think eminem's fade from glory to basically a punching bag has sucked for him. this was a nice gesture

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link

the 8 Mile single won best song, right?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link

Yeah. Kind of a repeat of "Purple Rain," with Eminem getting an Oscar while also starring in a huge film and selling millions of records, though iirc Prince got some sort of special Oscar.

I liked how after every performance the performer just sort of awkwardly stands there for a while. Maybe it's always like that? Anyway, I wasn't watching at the time, but when I heard the Eminem song keep going I thought, wait, is Eminem performing? Why? I went downstairs to where the rest of the fam was watching and caught the rest of it and still don't know why.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

I didn't see the movie, but I guess Elton John recorded a new song for his biopic? Isn't that a bit like tacking a new track on to a greatest hits collection?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link

Prince won Best Music, Original Song Score which was a regular category at the time.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

xpost I have to assume it was an end credits number or something. Like the Harriet Tubman tune, presumably. Unless I missed the fact that Harriet is a musical.

Sammo Hazuki's Tago Mago Cantina (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link

Prince beat The Muppets Take Manhattan and Songwriter (a Kristofferson project)

xp

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

Eminem didn't attend the ceremony in 2003 when "Lose Yourself" won, so he never actually performed it at the Oscars until last night.

jaymc, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link

well thank god the academy saw fit to finally right that historical wrong

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link

remember when he made fun of moby for being 36?

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

basically em has a new album out is my thinking

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link

"I didn't see the movie, but I guess Elton John recorded a new song for his biopic?"

yes. it's a pretty good song too, IMO. but off the top of my head I can't remember where it was in the movie (not over the closing credits, that was I'm Still Standing).

Eminem performance was unnecessary even if he was good; I just kept thinking "this seems like a retreat from the nominal nods toward diversity and women that they're trying to make in this show". I was rather surprised by the standing ovation he got.

akm, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link

what's more diverse than rap tho, such a brave decision from the academy

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:42 (four years ago) link

the nonstop pandering about supporting women in film against an uncaring and sexist industry read quite a bit like the presenters were fighting back against... the show they were on?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

have to say now that Parasite won so many Oscars I'm.... less excited to get around to watching it

Οὖτις, Monday, 10 February 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link

including jeffrey epstein in the 'in memoriam' segment seemed like a misstep too tbqh xp

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link

trust your gut imo (but see it anyway) xp

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Monday, 10 February 2020 20:55 (four years ago) link

yeah there's no way you're going to dislike it shakey.

"the nonstop pandering about supporting women in film against an uncaring and sexist industry read quite a bit like the presenters were fighting back against... the show they were on?"

yes which is funny considering none of it was unscripted

akm, Monday, 10 February 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link

the bullshit about how no, they really do get it, actually, is why parasite won

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link

maya and kristen's were mad lol j/k wasn't a dismissal of sexism so much as fuck the oscars

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

we're

otm into winter (rip van wanko), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

but off the top of my head I can't remember where it was in the movie (not over the closing credits, that was I'm Still Standing).

The credits are long enough that both songs were featured.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 February 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

Oof, I just saw that they didn't include Luke Perry in the in memoriam. And he's even in one of the top nominated films!!

Btw, every time they cut to Sam Mendes I thought it was bearded Mark Ruffalo and that the cameraman was making a mistake.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 10 February 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link

ppl should understand that if the deceased isn't *best known* for the medium of film, not TV or stage, they may not be included.

of course an exception was made for Kobe

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

Kobe won an Oscar.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 February 2020 22:40 (four years ago) link

I didn't know Anna Karina had died until last night. :(

jmm, Monday, 10 February 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link

yes, Kobe won an Oscar; so did Dorothy Malone, and they left her out last year

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link

... possibly sparing us seeing her stroke the oil derrick again.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 February 2020 22:44 (four years ago) link

one of the great shots in '50s cinema

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link

Well, yeah.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 February 2020 22:46 (four years ago) link

Tim Conway fans need to know Apple Dumpling Gang doesnt get him in; the Emmys, yes

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 22:48 (four years ago) link

did they show Kobe? I don't recall that.

akm, Monday, 10 February 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link

ppl can always click thru the 163 photos here (they have Barbara Hammer AND Arte Johnson)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 February 2020 22:57 (four years ago) link

Kobe was first, Kirk Douglas was last, some non-rapists were in-between.

jaymc, Monday, 10 February 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link

Probably some rapists.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 February 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link

I noticed there was some audible reaction during the death montage. I thought they'd gone silent on that for a few years.

clemenza, Monday, 10 February 2020 23:11 (four years ago) link

seriously, shove the unsubstantiated "rapist" shit in the case of Douglas

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link

The decisive factor, I suspect, was "own Trump." So, y'know, fine, I'm sure it will prevent his reelection.

I like the movie! I just have no idea what it was trying to say about class war.

Maybe that the victims are always human beings? (And the rest of the natural world, to floods.) (But that humans are incapable of saving themselves in the end.)

🚶‍♂️💨 (Eric H.), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link

douglas was certainly a philanderer but I've never heard him accused of rape.

akm, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 03:52 (four years ago) link

I hadn't, either, until he died, and Natalie Wood was suddenly trending on Twitter.

jaymc, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 03:54 (four years ago) link

this all seems to be harkening back to...GAwker?

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 03:58 (four years ago) link

unless the "some non-rapists in between" was used for an easy joek above, which I'm....sure hoping not.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 03:59 (four years ago) link

I have a hard time condemning Douglas without something other than an anonymous source and assurances that "these rumors have persisted for years". I don't have a hard time believing Natalie Wood was brutally raped,as she confided this in her surviving sister Lana. But the identity of her rapist was not publicly provided by Natalie, nor has it been provided by surviving family, but rather some anonymous internet handle whose identity has never been authenticated, who is choosing to speak on behalf of Natalie and her surviving family, without any comments from the family endorsing the statement?

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 04:37 (four years ago) link


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