well said
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 10 February 2020 03:05 (four years ago) link
I would argue that the artist's refusal to allow the song's use in a car commercial is a sign it is not butt rock. I guess ultimately I subscribe to the auteur theory of butt rock.
Also worth noting that J.Lo used the song in her Super Bowl performance (with the artist's permission) to call attention to the US's neglect of Puerto Rico. I can't see "Hot Blooded" being put to the same use.
― Lily Dale, Monday, 10 February 2020 03:15 (four years ago) link
"Cum On Feel The Noize" by Quiet Riot
I just read this as "Cum Feels Good On My Nose"
― frogbs, Monday, 10 February 2020 03:16 (four years ago) link
oh you did not
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 February 2020 03:18 (four years ago) link
J.Lo used the song in her Super Bowl performance (with the artist's permission) to call attention to the US's neglect of Puerto Rico. I can't see "Hot Blooded" being put to the same use.
well, considering the lyrics to "Hot Blooded" seem totally irrelevant in that regard, I agree, I can't see it being put to the same use
I mean:
Well, I'm hot blooded, check it and seeI got a fever of a hundred and threeCome on baby, do you do more than dance?I'm hot blooded, I'm hot bloodedYou don't have to read my mind, to know what I have in mindHoney you oughta knowNow you move so fine, let me lay it on the lineI wanna know what you're doin' after the showNow it's up to you, we can make a secret rendezvousJust me and you, I'll show you lovin' like you never knewThat's why, I'm hot blooded, check it and seeI feel a fever burning inside meCome on baby, do you do more than dance?I'm hot blooded, I'm hot blooded (I'm hot)Now it's up to you, can we make a secret rendezvous? ohBefore we do, you have to get away from you…
― sarahell, Monday, 10 February 2020 04:10 (four years ago) link
significant elision at the end there lol
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 10 February 2020 04:44 (four years ago) link
i mean, you can see it as opposite to illustrating the US relationship to Puerto Rico, as Hot Blooded is about wanting to be fucked, and the US has already seriously fucked Puerto Rico.
― sarahell, Monday, 10 February 2020 05:02 (four years ago) link
i thought it was about a guy hallucinating in his last hours before dying of influenza
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 February 2020 05:05 (four years ago) link
https://img.discogs.com/BWonEZCyNHGyayatFkgBqnBk1Dk=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-5522773-1420255025-1528.jpeg.jpg
Not much Butt Rock on this tho.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 February 2020 05:34 (four years ago) link
Oops
https://img.discogs.com/IHgB94rMaLYpePExzmpWcn239rY=/fit-in/600x597/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2102790-1512914355-7595.jpeg.jpg
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 February 2020 05:35 (four years ago) link
i almost copied and pasted some of this buttrock theory into a facebook post about California labor law and taxes. I just wanted everyone to know this.
― sarahell, Monday, 10 February 2020 05:39 (four years ago) link
Meter data
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 10 February 2020 05:39 (four years ago) link
I'm kinda sad this didn't happen
Also, has no-one here ever heard of Status Quo?
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, February 8, 2020 1:05 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Yeah, was just thinking 'Rain' is quintessential buttrock.
― Deflatormouse, Monday, 10 February 2020 05:53 (four years ago) link
reverse meter data
― sarahell, Monday, 10 February 2020 06:11 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UNMgENyMUo
― billstevejim, Monday, 10 February 2020 06:42 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 20 February 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
ahh memories
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 20 February 2020 00:02 (four years ago) link
so what constitutes butt rock, anyway?
― You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Thursday, 20 February 2020 00:03 (four years ago) link
(J/K)
― You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Thursday, 20 February 2020 00:04 (four years ago) link
Ok, this is wild. Just looked, and the Nazareth album featuring "Hair of the Dog" (it's called "Hair of the Dog") features some really surprising cover songs: in addition to "Love Hurts" (Everly Brothers), there's "Guilty" by Randy Newman and a song called "Beggars Day" written by Nils Lofgren, drawn from the sole Neil Young-free Crazy Horse record! Weird. (The bonus tracks on the expanded edition include covers of Joni Mitchell, Little Feat, Frank Zappa and Tomorrow, the band featuring Steve Howe before he joined Yes.)
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 February 2020 03:21 (four years ago) link
Whereby premiering in February of the decade and announcing Yes, the Seventies are here and here is cowbell; andWhereby forming as a musical combo on Long Island and probably only knowing Vicksburg from high school history class (as is true of myself); and Whereby aforementioned cowbell being played by a guy named Corky; andWhereby being and American combo, yet associated with Cream, the John the Baptists of buttrock; and Whereby begging our pardons, as if we do not know what is meant, when there is no doubt; and Whereby seeming like a much longer song, long overstaying its welcome, yet running only two-and-a-half minutes; I Therefor, have settled on Mississippi Queen
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Thursday, 20 February 2020 03:48 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 21 February 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
I need to come back to this thread and read your takes on buttrock. I voted black betty because it’s one of those one-size-fits-all-butts kind of song.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 February 2020 00:23 (four years ago) link
Good results! Top 5 are all top butt-rockers in my book. Noting though that 4 of the 5 are blues-rock to some degree, and only one is flat out butt-rawk imo. I missed voting, but it woulda been Grand Funk.
― A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Friday, 21 February 2020 00:50 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2lgnitdPdc
― babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2020 00:55 (four years ago) link
“Black Betty” is too fast for the genre, rest of the top 5 is pretty much accurate. “Tush” clearly the winner in a perfect world.
― thewufs, Friday, 21 February 2020 01:18 (four years ago) link
ZZ Top is butt-rock defined, even if they’re too good for the label
― thewufs, Friday, 21 February 2020 01:20 (four years ago) link
"We're An American Band" owns, not sure i consider it butt rock personally tho I see others here consider it a centerpiece of the canon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMsIrKjSM6Y
― equam phillips (crüt), Friday, 21 February 2020 02:02 (four years ago) link
I don't understand how "We Will Rock You" and "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" are butt rock
― equam phillips (crüt), Friday, 21 February 2020 02:07 (four years ago) link
What if it were called "Hit Me with Your Butt Shot?" Either way, the guitar solo in that one is waaaaaay too slick for butt rock.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 February 2020 02:14 (four years ago) link
I would say neither are, but I’m just being a butt.
― A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Friday, 21 February 2020 02:16 (four years ago) link
ironically it's easier for a female singer to channel the sexual aggressiveness of cock rock than it is for her to channel the tedious male homosociality of butt rock. I respect Joan Jett and Pat Benatar's efforts to run with the butt boys, but I don't think either of them has produced a whole-ass butt rock staple that you can grunt along to at the bar with your shithead bros without feeling the need to unleash a string of "no homos" afterwards. sad case of a genre failing to live up to the inclusiveness of its name (everyone has a butt!) and growing even more male-dominated in its '00s post-grunge incarnation
― nothing in the dialog (unregistered), Friday, 21 February 2020 03:26 (four years ago) link
Suzi Quatro, "Can the Can"? Has the double (double) entendre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYoogY-UGio
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 21 February 2020 03:32 (four years ago) link
butt? ✔️rock? ✔️buttrock? maybe if you ignore the breathy/sexy/clean vocals in the bridge. you can almost imagine her bathing every once in a while, which is a definite no-no for the genre
― nothing in the dialog (unregistered), Friday, 21 February 2020 03:49 (four years ago) link
it's not stankrock
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 21 February 2020 03:50 (four years ago) link
now this is where a venn diagram would really come in handy
― nothing in the dialog (unregistered), Friday, 21 February 2020 03:56 (four years ago) link
otm and well put
― Lily Dale, Friday, 21 February 2020 05:58 (four years ago) link
yeah, that was such a good post
― Ticket Tout (morrisp), Friday, 21 February 2020 06:00 (four years ago) link
list is much better without "Black Betty" imo
I agree with this:
I still don't get why anybody would call Black Betty butt rock. It's crazy showoff syncopated and tricky. Should you be able to dance to butt rock?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, February 7, 2020 2:33 PM (one week ago)
― sleeve, Friday, 21 February 2020 06:03 (four years ago) link
applying the looser criteria of polyvalence to buttrock: you can include Born in the USA because there are plenty of people who hear it and think, "I was born in the USA! Yay! USA!" ... and hear "Slow Ride" and think "Slow Ride! Cars cruising! Yay! Slow Ride!" idk
There's definitely something to this- unintended butt-ness. Locomotive Breath is butt, because "Got him by the balls, YEAH!" even if it is Tull's only throughly buttrock moment.
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 21 February 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link
voted for black betty, but woulda voted for hair of the dog if it were an option.
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 21 February 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
Sorry to go way upthread, butt:
foreigner and Foghat et al feel so “American” that i think ppl are often shocked when they realize thats not the case
Butt iirc the thing about Foreigner was by having both American and Britishes members, the name would be true everywhere they went.
― Natalie Wouldn't (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 February 2020 15:05 (four years ago) link
Foreigner bridged '70s butt rock to '80s Mutt rock.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 February 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link
I can buy "Hot Blooded" and "Jukebox Hero" as butt rock.
Much of the rest of Foreigner's output has a thorny/spiky/icy quality that I don't think associate with butt. "Cold as Ice," "Head Games," "Urgent" - synthy nervous songs rather than joyously dumb power-chord guitar songs. They are underlain by paranoia and attempted sophistication.
Put concisely: they are not keg-party singalongs. Note: Not all keg-party singalongs are butt rock, but all butt-rock songs are keg-party singalongs. It's sort of in the DNA of the genre.
My definition of butt rock definitely has to do with the intended audience and said intended audience's reaction, but it's very rooted in a specific time and a specific way of life. So for me, a true butt rock track must have engendered a certain kind of response from that specific audience at that specific place and time.
When a butt rock song comes on the stereo at a party in a wood-paneled basement, a butt rocker will either lift his beer in the air and say FUCKEN A or FUCK YEAH. Alternatively, he can keep his beer hand close to his chest and raise the other hand in a devil-horn gesture.
The arch-butt-rocker has a used El Camino or Firebird purchased with earnings from Trak Auto. He owns and wears a Confederate-flag headband. He lives in his parents' basement but it has a separate entrance so chicks can come in and out without being introduced to his parents. There may or may not be a black-light poster of a panther.
In this view butt rock is a musical genre that reflects a lifestyle, indeed a state of mind.
― Natalie Wouldn't (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 February 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link
> Does The Cult fit in here?
Rick Rubin kept the flame going didn't he? Buttrock's tangential legacy was bringing the wallop to early Def Jam, so much of which had a "FUCK YEAH" quality to it. He then spent the 90s attempting to elevate a lot of Foghat/Nazareth type bands of varying levels of self-awareness.
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 21 February 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
license to ill is buttrock for gen x
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 21 February 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link
buttrap.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 February 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link
(Not to be confused with, like, 2 Live Crew)
“No Sleep till Brooklyn” (that riff at that tempo) is perfect post-Rubin butt for the mid to late 80s
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 21 February 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link