xp The transfers there went all over the shop, Brian - Mulherin next for the jump then presumably Chambers?
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 10 February 2020 01:06 (four years ago) link
idk about carlow, its a bit of a wild one, even under the parties theres a few rebels
idk if transfers follow as expected, theyre all rich farmers sher they all walk the same roads
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:07 (four years ago) link
mulherin is gone, theyll be distributing her votes and there will be nothing for chambers so it would be almost impossible to see her stay, rte essentially just dealt with her as gone
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:08 (four years ago) link
tv coverage finito, switching to online coverage
reminder- take two days off after election ffs
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:11 (four years ago) link
It's a sign of our vital electoral gut fauna that Renua haven't been the first eliminated in every constituency, but God they put their best effort in.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 10 February 2020 01:13 (four years ago) link
ALEX HARDING*MEATH EAST*Unfortunately Alex had to stand down as a candidate at the last minute. However he will be a candidate in a future election.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 10 February 2020 01:14 (four years ago) link
youd have to be looking for them, i hadnt heard nor thought the name all day- and that's good enough for me
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:16 (four years ago) link
nationalist parties likewise utterly rejected
and yes, i know
but theres shades of it, and im no fan of em but sf aint that
sovereignty movements certainly oughtn’t be conflated with brownshirted nationalism
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 10 February 2020 01:58 (four years ago) link
fg 14ff 16
creeping up
ff/sf is practically accepted now, but some broad church of the left theatre is expected first
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 08:52 (four years ago) link
Sean Sherlock! Why did he have to get back in?!
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 08:57 (four years ago) link
what was it about
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:00 (four years ago) link
ah yes
he wrote to me once to ask me to change the public phone number of our entire bureau, it was similar to one of his constituents and she was mithered with fat fingered wronguns
headed dail paper, obv
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:02 (four years ago) link
I hope you told him where to go
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:04 (four years ago) link
It goes without saying that I know next to nothing about your politics but this morning I was reading a short article in Le Monde in which they describe SF as ‘nationalist’ and it made me curious. What does this mean in practice?
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:10 (four years ago) link
Still waiting for the first absolutely hateful Graun take on this momentous result for a left wing party in the west, especially after that ridiculous Tisdall piece on Macron the other day.
― calzino, Monday, 10 February 2020 09:16 (four years ago) link
i wrote him a politely worded letter g, and posted it as i normally do
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:26 (four years ago) link
pom
it means that one of their core tenets, probably there key tenet, is the achievement of a 32 county. republic on the ireland of ireland
thats the dry version
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:27 (four years ago) link
There have been shit takes all over Twitter!pom - nationalist in the sense of supportive of Ireland the independent nation, the whole island. We do have nationalist parties that express their hatred of foreigners but SF is not that.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:28 (four years ago) link
Wouldn't 'republican' be a better descriptor instead of nationalist? (media here have been using the same word btw)
Would watch an RTE 24/7 elections show w/ Gyac and Deems gaelicking us through the results btw, good stuff here ppl!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 10 February 2020 09:30 (four years ago) link
il comptait déjà 29 députés confirmés pour le Dail
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:31 (four years ago) link
paul murphy was asked last night, as the question of a left alliance in govt arose, whether SF were 'left'
he demurred
im open to question in this, but one question that arises is at what stage the political theory on economics etc married the national question, and rather interestingly to what extent one is the vehicle for the other.
nb this question is interesting from outside looking in anyway, but its very interesting indeed when considered in the party itself across different people (cant say factions, cant say groupings, afaict theyre a remarkably disciplined bunch ito message unity). i get the idea that there's probably a wide range of prioritisation across the two issues, but in the circs and as-yet untested its very hard to tell.
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:33 (four years ago) link
Along with the flag?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:33 (four years ago) link
xp I am not sure RTÉ would air something as, well, avant garde as deems being his usual inscrutable self and me rolling my eyes and muttering “fucking Blueshirts/shoneens” every few seconds. Maybe if they gave me a hurl to break something every time someone was elected on the first count?
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link
i would agree, in their angle on immigration and all else associated issues, sf are declared irish republican but not irish nationalist
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:35 (four years ago) link
SF are pretty left for us! And yeah I know the SNP are trialling the whole “nationalism but make it left” aspect atm, but you’d have reason to believe that the economics stays intact even in the event of a successful border poll?
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:37 (four years ago) link
listen if they aired that professor free-associating the demographics through an examination of his relationship with his ascendancy mother last night, im a shoe-in never mind a shoneen
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:37 (four years ago) link
yes i was sidetracked
the other question is the inscrutability of the surge
all housing?
nationalist rise?
move left as a result of patience broken with wage slave bank rescue?
long term, or "we'll give it a go"?
nobody has a fuckin clue selon le prof et selon moi
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:38 (four years ago) link
sf are populist left would be a fair comment i think, and we shall see what their red lines are i spose?
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:40 (four years ago) link
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:41 (four years ago) link
he may be better in the telling, or at least better watched after a long day for all concerned
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:42 (four years ago) link
sf
and the public service
interesting
Thanks, deems & gyac. That sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
― toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:43 (four years ago) link
xphttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Michael_Collins.jpg
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:44 (four years ago) link
Matt Barrett, Leo Varadkar's partner, spoke to @NuachtTG4 about teaching the Fine Gael leader Irish, and his disappointment with the #GE2020 result. | https://t.co/asNmJWIpQ3 pic.twitter.com/8eu5Gfg2b4— RTÉ News (@rtenews) February 10, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:46 (four years ago) link
all of the above tbh
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:49 (four years ago) link
I can’t find a clip of his apparently legendary interview in Antrim GAA kit?
Oiche mhaith. Time to put the boys to bed. pic.twitter.com/bfEoXSNQh1— Gerry Adams (@GerryAdamsSF) February 9, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:55 (four years ago) link
I don't recall there being much of left-wing vibe to SF* growing up, but then it was all subsumed by them being, you know, the political wing of the IRA back when it meant something
but it's a new world, and they've found a renewal, and fair play to them.
*apart from the, ah, local nationalisation of the drug industry.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 10 February 2020 10:00 (four years ago) link
i think jim could give context otherwise, h block marxism and all that
but it would be fair to note that the differences between 70s youth republicans, 90s youth republicans and 2020 youth republicans are imo marked
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 10:04 (four years ago) link
jarry
cant help but like him
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 10:05 (four years ago) link
Three TDs have just been elected in Galway West on the same count.Elected at count 8 were:Fianna Fáil's Éamon Ó CuívSinn Féin's Mairéad FarrellIndependent Noel Grealish
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 11:32 (four years ago) link
I'm wondering how significant Grealish being 2nd at the moment is. He overtook O'Cuiv . Would have hoped he'd be eliminated. I thought he was far from popular. Anti-immigration policy holder.Does it reflect a large amount of right wing shite on the West Side of Galway or what? I think He has picked up quite a bit from 2ary or whatever votes. BUt I don't think it's a very good sign anyway.
― Stevolende, Monday, 10 February 2020 11:39 (four years ago) link
hes remarkably popular in one or two specific towns, i doubt he drops ten votes between claregalway and oranmore
id have it as a strongly geographical vote, and while its lamentable that his views dont see him dented, the local TD is a resource almost totally unrelated to his actual politics and this is one of those cases imo
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 11:49 (four years ago) link
im busy this morning how fuckin dare they
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Monday, 10 February 2020 11:50 (four years ago) link
RoI has "succumbed to populism" according to old man Simpson of the BBC!
― calzino, Monday, 10 February 2020 12:05 (four years ago) link
Saw that, man’s a dim cunt.Lol Howlin
He said he believed there might be a few weeks of "conditioning" but he believes that Sinn Féin will join forces with either Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael.
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 12:07 (four years ago) link
If you compare the rise of Sinn Féin to Trump or Brexit and don't mention that a high profile TD made an impassioned defence of migration and asylum, and got his car burnt out by racists for his trouble, you're a hack. Sorry, thems the rules— Jack Sheehan (@YuleGoat) February 10, 2020
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 12:10 (four years ago) link
Stealing both a living and oxygenhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQaRLlJX0AAf44p?format=jpg&name=large
― hyds (gyac), Monday, 10 February 2020 12:11 (four years ago) link