I’m not sure the onion piece is making fun of bernie bros. I think it might be making fun of the flimsiness of the construct, and the kind of person who would see other people through that lens.
But I don’t know.
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 14:03 (four years ago) link
there were Bernie bros in 2007?
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 7 February 2020 14:04 (four years ago) link
Sorry the mcsweeneys piece
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link
That our esteemed comrade posted upthread
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link
treesh <3
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 7 February 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link
Yeah, DJP OTM. None of those guys are misogynist trolls with a persecution complex taking down Kamala Harris or whatever.
Also, everyone, including ilxors, used "bro" in a positive way for a while about 10 years ago.
― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Friday, 7 February 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link
it not only can be reclaimed, in many contexts it never went away
bro- its been waiting for you all along
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 7 February 2020 14:31 (four years ago) link
The piece I posted earlier is possibly satire (so the bit about Pussy Riot is a giveaway rather than an inaccuracy). It was the reaction to the piece more than anything that got me to post it.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 February 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
I just think it’s bad to conflate something as meaningless like playing ultimate frisbee or liking jam bands with being a misogynist. It makes it seem like being a “good liberal” is more about style—a certain sense of sophistication—then substance.
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
The way people use “bro” that is. No one needs this caricature. Also there is a secondary level where it is pathologizing male camaraderie when actually male loneliness is the bigger issue—especially if people are sick of men only turning to women for emotional labor.
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 14:40 (four years ago) link
Good call, bro.
― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Friday, 7 February 2020 14:43 (four years ago) link
It’s not like being isolated, ironic, above it all and on social media 24/7 is such a great lifestyle. Maybe brooklynites could learn a thing or two from bros.
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 14:43 (four years ago) link
Dear god no
― Frederik B, Friday, 7 February 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link
i know this isn't a popular attitude on ilx
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 14:50 (four years ago) link
Not only must I constantly update two threads dealing with Bernie Sanders' primary and electoral chances, but I have to deal with the ontological implications of being called a bro.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2020 14:52 (four years ago) link
Too great a burden for any one bro. This is why companionship is important.
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 7 February 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link
Just something to consider, fellas.
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 14:59 (four years ago) link
a bro with no hope
― uncrut gems (crüt), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link
bropeless
― El Tomboto, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:08 (four years ago) link
bloody hell treesh, last night you were defending prof Rüdiger Scrotum and now the international brohood - when did you become radicalised?
:p
― calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:09 (four years ago) link
I wasn’t defending that british guy — I just liked that people were debating architecture. I’m on the other side, obvs
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link
oh sorry for misreading you, it was late
― calzino, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link
bro is out, homie is in
― ciderpress, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link
i could probably use more camaraderie and maybe even more male camaraderie, but i very definitely do not need any bros
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
fed buildings in the Neobrolonial style
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
I feel like we had a pretty good division between threads where this one was for getting hyped about bernie and the primary threads were about Serious Discussion but I guess that broke down a bit at some point
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:27 (four years ago) link
Where is the line between a bro and a dude though? I think the bro, as a figure, is a kind of phantasm. The objectionable qualities and ideas people ascribe to “bros” are real, and maybe concentrated in certain social groups, but not always—they’re distributed across the population
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 15:27 (four years ago) link
xp doctor
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link
These shorthands are just too easy to abuse. Someone days bernie supporters are “bros”—a whole stupid narrative falls into place
that will be my final word on the subject
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
Bernie supporters are bronies obv
― jmm, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:32 (four years ago) link
You are possibly thinking of 'dude'? 'Bro' naturally exists in tension with 'ho', and ILX has always had a pro-ho constituency.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link
bro-hos before ho-hos
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link
Captain Save-a-Bro at your service
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link
I am definitely thinking of "bro".
― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link
This is quite story:
https://www.elle.com/life-love/a30551979/bernie-sanders-medicare-for-all/
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link
I was busy thinking 'bout bros
― Frederik B, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link
Josh Bell is a total bro! Totally awesome and friendly (only met him once but he is a friend of a friend).
― HI DERE, lundi 9 avril 2007 19:03 (twelve years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Edmund Spenser: total noize bro
― remy bean, jeudi 8 novembre 2007 14:55 (twelve years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Andy from SOTL is a total bro
― Mackro Mackro, lundi 21 avril 2008 18:52 (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglinkBob Fay is fucking awesome. What a total bro.
― hstencil (hstencil), mercredi 2 mars 2005 13:32 (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link
re: the Kate Willett piece in Elle, I'd heard a bit of her podcast, and heard her mention her reasons for supporting M4A, so I'm curious to read that.
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link
"bro" has all kinds of connotations in my circles, all negative, since god knows when. the best-case version of a "bro" is kinda like "basic dude," which even that isn't really my scene. "bernie bros" also certainly exist and are extremely annoying, although i subscribe to the take that their online presence wayyyyy overstates their real-life importance.
but if we're not talking sociology and political demographic punditry, then we're just talking about slang and ways groups define themselves by who's not in them. not sure there's much to say there. i don't hang out with "bros." when someone's demeanor is described as "bro-y" i know what the person is talking about. in turn, i'm sure the bros could have all kinds of words for me and my friends, and so it goes. obviously no one involved thinks men should not have male friends, and i doubt there are any bros out there for whom the word "bro" has shamed them out of enjoying that camaraderie.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 February 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link
20 ALL TIME ULTIMATE BRO RECORDS.
― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Friday, 7 February 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link
and i doubt there are any bros out there for whom the word "bro" has shamed them out of enjoying that camaraderie.― Doctor Casino, Friday, February 7, 2020 10:58 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Doctor Casino, Friday, February 7, 2020 10:58 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I feel like the term is belittling.
― treeship., Friday, 7 February 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link
Anyway—of the topic.
Bernie is gonna win
pic.twitter.com/V2bYFFnexD— law dog, esq. (@ggooooddddoogg) February 7, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 February 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link
That piece is 100% satire and the response to it is insane.
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 7 February 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link
Does McSweeney's publish anything that is not satire?
― With considerable charm, you still have made a choice (Sund4r), Friday, 7 February 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link
I don't think so
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 7 February 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link
i subscribe to the take that their online presence wayyyyy overstates their real-life importance.
uh-oh you'd better tread lightly here, shit is gonna pop
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 7 February 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link
bro rights are human rights
― BSC Joan Baez (darraghmac), Friday, 7 February 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link
does anyone know a law pro who will rep a bro on a pro bono basis tho