Mike Trout needs his own thread

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One of the cooler things Mike Trout does every year: instead of having his Millville HS number retired, he comes back and gives it to the new captains every year. https://t.co/iNbhQOqIMA

— Fabian Ardaya (@FabianArdaya) February 6, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 6 February 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Mike Trout hitting rockets isn’t exclusive to the baseball field. pic.twitter.com/tuEyIzxqQ5

— Los Angeles Angels (@Angels) March 2, 2020

mookieproof, Monday, 2 March 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link

absolute liftoff

k3vin k., Monday, 2 March 2020 22:55 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

does anyone want to know what Trout's standout skill is?

If someone wants to know what Trout’s standout skill is, then, all you have to do is tell them he is more than twice as good at hitting pitches that are in the shadow of the strike zone as any other hitter in baseball. Tell them about how tough it is for hitters to hit pitches in the shadow of the zone, and how most of them cost their team piles of runs in those situations over the course of a season, and that Trout adds more value in what are supposed to be his least-advantageous situations than most hitters do in any situation, period. Maybe tell them about run expectancy, and how we’re not necessarily measuring Trout’s value in actual runs, but in perceived runs added in a context-neural, all-things-equal situation.

well, i think my job here is done.

Wait, that’s way too clunky. How many times are you gonna use the word “situation,” buddy? Sheesh. Instead, say Trout’s standout skill is dread. Say that there is a cliché that athletes and coaches often use about how if you come up with the right game plan and execute it, then you’ll be successful, only Trout is impervious to game plans. He succeeds against the types of pitches hitters are expected to succeed at, but he also succeeds where hitters are supposed to fail, and does so to an extent that is not replicated by anyone. Because of that, pitchers have nowhere to turn. Baseball is a zero-sum game; if Trout is never at a disadvantage, then the pitcher always is.

alright then, that does clarify things, so i'll just be-

Or you can just say he’s the best player in baseball. That stands out pretty well, too.

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https://blogs.fangraphs.com/where-mike-trout-stands-out-most/

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link

those stats are really cool. I have to find sortable tables for all those zone stats

k3vin k., Friday, 24 April 2020 05:36 (three years ago) link

i like them too. now i'm curious who wins the Vladimir Guerrero Sr award for best waste pitch hitter

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 05:40 (three years ago) link

the world demands to know. looks like they’re sourced from baseball savant but I can’t figure out how to find them

k3vin k., Friday, 24 April 2020 05:57 (three years ago) link

i couldn't find it on their website either, but found it through google:

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/visuals/swing-take?playerId=545361&year=2019

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:11 (three years ago) link

as usual at baseballsavant, they don't make it easy to sort or customize their data, and they bury interesting features. for example, you can switch the filter to pitchers, and i think that gives you a look at how different pitchers do in different areas of the strike zone, which is interesting in a different way

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:16 (three years ago) link

yeah, i think that's right. because it shows gerrit cole as having a -58 run value, with most of the surplus (or deficit i guess) coming from pitches in and on the edge of the zone, which makes sense for him

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link

lol, i guess all pitchers do pretty well on the edge of the zone, duh.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 April 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Mike Trout Is Now Fully Qualified for the Hall of Fame

so at least we have that

mookieproof, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

on paternity leave

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link

Beckham Aaron Trout. B.A.T. BAT

— Los Angeles Angels (@Angels) August 1, 2020

Andy K, Sunday, 2 August 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link

is that for Aaron #44?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 August 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link

homer 1st ab back from paternity leave, natch

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 02:19 (three years ago) link

29 today. he can beat the age curve, right?

right?

mookieproof, Friday, 7 August 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

gonna suck when we inevitably have the "how many records would he have broken if not for the abridged 2020 season" convo

frogbs, Friday, 7 August 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

most of those will be for counting stats, so ptui!

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 August 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

the record is six

Mike Trout has now homered on his 21st, 22nd, 24th, 26th and 29th birthdays.

Homer in 5 of 7 career birthday games.

— Christopher Kamka (@ckamka) August 8, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

whose record?

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

too obvious guess: Bonds?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

A-Rod, tied w/ a lesser light

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

Mark Reynolds

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

8 homers and a baby

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

And a valuable baseball card.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/mike-trout-rookie-baseball-card-top-1-million-auction

clemenza, Thursday, 13 August 2020 13:24 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Hit his 300th tonight.

clemenza, Sunday, 6 September 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link

Which might make him the 10th youngest--not sure based on this.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-giancarlo-stanton-becomes-the-fifth-fastest-player-to-300-home-runs-in-mlb-history/

(Trout turned 29 on August 7.)

clemenza, Sunday, 6 September 2020 03:54 (three years ago) link

Trout catches Salmon

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 6 September 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

That's great!

http://fishingbooker.com/blog/trout-vs-salmon/

clemenza, Sunday, 6 September 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

haha

*a doff of the cap at Tracer*

*giggles nervously*

*flounces off*

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 6 September 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Trout vs. Betts:

https://www.mlb.com/news/debate-mookie-betts-mike-trout-best-player-mlb

clemenza, Friday, 23 October 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/RalzN3C.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 23 October 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

Since betts is still playing and trout is not yes mookie betts is the best player in baseball

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 23 October 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

*mike trout looks out*

president of my cat (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 October 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link

I saw him before his rookie year! Batting ninth!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA201107090.shtml

― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:45 PM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

CTRL-F "Morb" delivers.

Andy K, Saturday, 24 October 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link

"Every executive lauded Betts for his incredible talent, and while each one of them would be happy to have the Dodgers superstar patrolling right field for their club, the results were nearly unanimous: Eight executives chose Trout, one took Betts, while the other one called it a draw.

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-mookie-betts-best-mlb-player-poll

clemenza, Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

The Posnanski article has some interesting points (before talking about the value of Betts having a WS ring) - I didn't realize Trout may be physically slowing down a touch. Just the rigors of playing center, or the foot surgery from a couple of seasons ago?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

9 G, .414/.564/.828, 271 wRC+, 1.0 fWAR

ffs

mookieproof, Monday, 12 April 2021 04:26 (three years ago) link

lol he has rendon hitting behind him and is still being walked 25% of the time

mookieproof, Monday, 12 April 2021 04:30 (three years ago) link

meanwhile albert is managing a sturdy -0.2fWAR in 6 games

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 April 2021 04:35 (three years ago) link

this trout guy does seem to be good though

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 12 April 2021 04:36 (three years ago) link

just hit his sixth homer, leads the league with 267 wRC+ now. I think it’s funny how every year there’s an article about the people who are going to surpass trout and nope, he’s the best and it’s not close

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 April 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link

tbf acuña is making a case

mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 20:37 (two years ago) link

trout has a .500+ OBP rn

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link

yeah his BABIP is over .500

frogbs, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link

Seems like every year there’s also an article saying “...and he finally has a decent team behind him!”

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:11 (two years ago) link

I wonder if he and Connor McDavid ever talk. I don’t know if either of them are household names in the U.S.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 22 April 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

he’s the best and it’s not close

If he keeps going like this all season, no question, still the best. But I don't agree with the "not close"--Betts, Acuna, Tatis (if he keeps going), and Soto (weaker in the field) are all close; if Trout were to go back to the level he played at last season, I think he'd be surpassed. I'd hold off on this question right now.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 April 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link


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