itt: paintings that are plot-points in movies and TV that are terrible paintings (or excellent ones if there are any)

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I would expect sculpture to be much more common in film than painting, though I’m not sure why; sculpture as mise en scene seems more natural.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:17 (four years ago) link

i haven't seen it for c.25 years but some of gillies mackinnon's small faces (no relation) was filmed at the glasgow school of art and used paintings almost as intertitles, if i'm remembering correctly. i can't find any links on the net, googling small faces paintings brings up nightmares redolent of illustrations feat.paul weller that make you think

(at the time i didn't think it worked especially well but i was speed-watching as part of a project abt pat barker's regeneration -- his next film -- so might just have been not in the mood for whatever it was aiming at. and the fact of it as a device has clearly stuck with me)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:38 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/pVHnCJX.jpg?1
https://m0vie.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/doctorwho-dragonfire4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Yad4JQF.jpg?1

Edward Peel's villain delivering this dramatic monologue in front of the rubbish ice statue of his dead wife in an episode of Dr Who

A work of artistry, my friend. Incandescent artistry. I could almost believe Xana lives again. A unique beauty, yes, but more than that, a criminal genius also. Oh, what a waste. It should have been I who was killed escaping arrest, not you. The whole of eternity has held its breath for this moment. But no one must ever see your work. It exists, that is enough. No one can ever look upon your work and live. Gaze on it and die fulfilled.
(Kane places his bare hands on the sculptor's face and freezes him to death.)

soref, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:47 (four years ago) link

is that an ice organ i spy in the background? this was an aesthetically rich episode, it has bricolage and everything: "One of the guard's lines, about the "semiotic thickness of a performed text", is a quotation from Doctor Who: The Unfolding Text, a 1983 media studies volume by John Tulloch and Manuel Alvarado. Story editor Andrew Cartmel had suggested that writers read The Unfolding Text to familiarise themselves with Doctor Who and its history, which inspired Ian Briggs to quote the academic text in his script"

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd9U3ecCcAAnBiM.jpg

fetter, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:07 (four years ago) link

Are those Staffies in the GoodFellas painting?

fetter, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:09 (four years ago) link

ah sorry I only just noticed you literally referenced the two dogs photo in the og post!

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:13 (four years ago) link

don't apologise the thread needed the picture!

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:15 (four years ago) link

This is from the game not the show but it looks exactly the same
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/c/c8/Grossbergoffice.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20151016234529

hyds (gyac), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link

pleased to report btw that data's picture from PICARD -- aka the threadstarter -- remains the worst in the thread (and also galactic cultural history)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:27 (four years ago) link

What about the paintings Data painted in TNG?

https://i.stack.imgur.com/du4by.jpg

https://i.stack.imgur.com/rHJIj.jpg

Tuomas, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:32 (four years ago) link

If, like me, you're somewhat of a Niven fan and haven't heard of that movie, it's because it's awful.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:33 (four years ago) link

xp to tuomas: they're not as bad (they're very bad, the top one less so maybe, but they're not as bad)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:35 (four years ago) link

That top one toumas posted looks like hockney vomiting acyrilic paint in anger over one of his worst paintings

calzino, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:38 (four years ago) link

is it a picture of the charge of the light brigade? the LB as vomited bright red acrylic wd be good art praxis if so

(i like when data's approach is overly algorithmic tho, someone is paying attention in the correct directions even if the picture comes out crappy) (this does not apply to the threadstarter which is in the "spooky resemblance of ancestor to current character" mode lol)

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:56 (four years ago) link

The statues in Robert wise’s the Haunting are good: https://m.imgur.com/gallery/3RCr3le

Though expanding to sculpture risks overwhelming the topic with statues of Christ.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:58 (four years ago) link

statues of christ sculpted by data are welcome

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:05 (four years ago) link

the secret history of st:tng is that it's actually a seven-season polemic about how synthetic life is bad not good (cf data actively threatening the lives of the crew on multiple occasions and being bafflingly reinstated to his vitally important duties after every single one) and his shit-ass paintings are one of the major clues that something is profoundly and unredeemably RONG with him

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link

As far as Dark Shadows goes, there is a painting that features more prominently in the bits I am (I’m exactly halfway through the series now) - Cassandra’s portrait. https://images.app.goo.gl/32WQKrq5hXSjmTr19 Which is...not great. Barnabas’ is clearly better.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:35 (four years ago) link

Good rundown of all the Dark Shadows portraits, good, bad and hideously ugly:

http://dsb4idie.blogspot.com/p/old-house-portraits_8.html

Josefa, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link

Thanks for that link, Josefa!

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link

If we're expanding the field to include other artistic media might I throw jackietreehornsketch.jpg into the ring

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link

loved this film as a kid

https://i.imgur.com/fY4V8BD.jpg

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:02 (four years ago) link

From 'Dr. No' (1962), a painting of the Duke of Wellington that had been stolen in 1961.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/d4/05/84d40597db91634668b245236d09e6ca.jpg
Not a plot point as such, but it adds to Dr. No's characterisation as a high end criminal.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:07 (four years ago) link

Also "that painting from 'Skyfall'", also known as 'The Fighting Temeraire'.
https://paintingvalley.com/images/skyfall-painting-21.png
Again not really a plot point, more of a character/relationaship development point between Bond and Q.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link

'Skyfall' also has another painting in it, which itself is a reference to the stolen painting gag in 'Dr. No'.
http://paintingsinmovies.com/m/view/id/56

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link

Reminded me of this:

https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/2019/07/img_8567.jpg

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

Ghostbusters 2 was mentioned already of course, but forgot about this one

https://i.etsystatic.com/6958508/r/il/028757/1140560861/il_570xN.1140560861_d6uq.jpg

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link

that's an extremely poor rendering of ernie hudson

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

how about movies or shows where a prowler lurks behind the wall, peering through the eyes of the portrait!!! spooky stuff!

andrew m., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link

excellent one imo

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/35/7e/68357e9cabfaa44ca5e028e4bdf52504.png

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link

sorry should have pointed out NSFW!

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link

but prob doesn't count as it's not movie originated

Ste, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link

excellent art, not a plot point.

andrew m., Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/TREYzP1.jpg

mark s, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

Aren’t there some gaudy paintings of biff & Lorraine in trump-biff’s mansion in bttf2? Can’t find online

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link

The wonderful opening sequence of the TV “What We Do In the Shadows” is full of amazing not terrible art:

rb (soda), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 23:32 (four years ago) link

Loved the Raul Julia thing, had no idea he played M Bison, and made the mistake of learning more. Of course he filmed this, his last role, when he was dying of stomach cancer so his children could see him in a movie they'd enjoy ;_;

lukas, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 23:39 (four years ago) link

Bojack Horseman is incredible on so many levels

Frederik B, Thursday, 6 February 2020 08:31 (four years ago) link

futher evidence of data's crimes against art:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogFxgtsypBc

the case for the defence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29-iFOEOgIM

Paperbag raita (ledge), Thursday, 6 February 2020 10:00 (four years ago) link

things i've been hunting for meanwhile = wall art in 50s and 60s cartoons, esp.the hubleys at UPA

mark s, Thursday, 6 February 2020 10:00 (four years ago) link


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