See you on the beach - the thread for Hideo Kojima's DEATH STRANDING

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see i did that once on foot and then put the game down permanently. i think it takes a type.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:21 (four years ago) link

it gets easier with the all-terrain exoskeleton and powered gloves

there was one delivery where... damn did I screw it up. pretty sure frostbite was involved

babu frik fan account (mh), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link

i wonder if there should be an 'extra hard' difficulty setting. needing to stealth the fuck out of mule camps for instance. or having to do speed runs. or getting a C grade for any damage at all. (for all the difference that makes, lol. when i had to deliver to cryptobiotes to fragile i destroyed 99% of the cargo and still the story advanced and i didn't see any actual downside)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 February 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link

oh my god. i love it.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 February 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link

fwiw there's another soundtrack on streaming now of more music from the game

I get the impression the prior two (original score and Timefall) were material Sony had the license for and the new one, which is 3/4 tracks by Low Roar, are Kojima's picks

babu frik fan account (mh), Monday, 3 February 2020 22:25 (four years ago) link

I wanna get this game so much but it is very expensive atm

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link

If you can wait some months the price will drop quite a bit. I'm personally going to wait till it reaches $20 before I consider buying it.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 18:02 (four years ago) link

I was thinking about the plot on the way back from lunch and, although contrived in a very Kojima-esque way, it's kind of an amazing rumination on loss and the different ways people cope

otoh, it's a little overwrought because -- as I said before -- nearly everyone integral to the plot has a bleak backstory

caucus fricked iowa account (mh), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

big kojima profile in the NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/03/magazine/hideo-kojima-death-stranding-video-game.html

i have not played this game in a while

na (NA), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link

After the endgame the loneliness became a little too intense for me tbpfh

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link

what did you think of the end/coda, Tracer? hopefully didn’t skip all the story!

mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 22:01 (four years ago) link

i think i figured out that I’m my own BB? i didn’t understand wtf was going on tbrr

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:29 (four years ago) link

Kojima wept

mh, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:31 (four years ago) link

i didn’t like that the game made me treat BB - i mean, ‘Lou’ - in a way that i totally didn’t want to just in order to advance the story and finish. but i liked the uncanny bit where reedus winds up in the past, in the hospital, interacting with past events. super weird. can’t even remember now what happened with deadman. die hardman’s the new president of jack shit, so that’s exciting for him.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link

deadman keeps on keep in’ on

if anyone is not here for SPOILERS set bookmark after my post now


it was kind of touching, and despite it being heavily telegraphed I was kind of surprised by the “current BB is not flashback BB” twist. that was my character! I was loved, and not by creepy extinction president! Mads is my dads.

tbh I want Mads to be my dad though

mh, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 00:42 (four years ago) link

oh i just assumed that from the beginning!

thomasintrouble, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link

I was too busy dumping my packages in a creek to ponder it

mh, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:08 (four years ago) link

started this yesterday. bonkers. I've no idea what I'm doing. Just clinging on for dear life p much

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 9 March 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link

keep on keepin' on 👍

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 March 2020 23:21 (four years ago) link

My name’s Sam too!

mh, Monday, 9 March 2020 23:24 (four years ago) link

this game's giving me some weird-ass dreams already.

No idea how to avoid areas swarming with timefall and BTs. Managed to escape by the skin of my teeth just by button bashing and hoping for the best, much to the detriment of my cargo.

If my cargo gets destroyed, or if a BT kills me, is it better to go back to a save point, or just continue? I'm not sure I really understand how reptriation really works.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 12:08 (four years ago) link

i will admit restarting from a previous save a couple of times rather than lose my cargo and redo the mission.

many/most/all of the time you can't really avoid BT territory - you have to creep your way through it. but if you're patient you shouldn't have to actually fight them.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link

they seem to grab me no matter what but maybe i'm freaking out and being clumsy. feels like the rain damages a lot of my cargo whatever happens

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link

the rain gets easier

keep in mind container damage doesn't count against you

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:01 (four years ago) link

it's trickier toward the beginning, but the main thing to remember is to be cautious and patient. make sure you're crouching, constantly re-scan, and if you have to creep by in relative close proximity, hold your breath

mh, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:01 (four years ago) link

I played a little bit over the weekend to visit a few people I hadn't found originally. The Veteran Porter is in a cool spot, although running down that hill is ridiculous!

mh, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:02 (four years ago) link

wait whaaa?? never knew about him

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link

Does scanning tell you where BTs / timefall is? I thought it was just for terrain and landmarks?

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

nope, but other porters will often leave helpful signs warning of timefall or BTs that you can see on the map or while you're strolling by

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link

I meant the odradek scanning so you can see the BTs hovering there as opposed to the map

mh, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

Cool.

One thing that frustrates me (and maybe it's my telly to blame) is how small some of the info on screen is.
I've increased the font size, but even so, some writing is still quite tiny. As for icons, it's really hard to see what button I'm supposed to press for what.
And in compass mode, my cross-hairs get lost in the landscape and feel super sensitive, so I'm always scanning past what I'm trying to identify. Anyone else getting this?

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link

i almost never used compass mode so idk

my screen is 26” and it was just baaaarely big enough - i had to sit pretty close

oh yes that’s true about scanning for BTs - if they’re close enough they will show up! i got into a little rhythm of creep, stop, scan, creep etc

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 08:33 (four years ago) link

Huh, okay I use Compass quite a lot. Maybe I'm doing things 'wrong'?

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 09:27 (four years ago) link

I'm amazed at how involved this game makes me feel.

Weird dreams I've been having since I started playing notwithstanding, when I finally managed to track a long route around BT territory last night, suffering BB autotoxema on the way and dashing desperately towards my target outpost, the sense of relief when the receivers patted me on the back and I finally got to plug my BB back into its 'womb' was immense.

I had a shower (actually I had two) and sat on my bed looking at various things in my room for like 5-10 minutes, a bit like I would after an IRL hard day at work.

I spent a significant amount of time going through my Odradek, reading interviews and tips. In fact the Odradek is such a huge huge part of the game. I just wish it had been designed better. It seems incredibly over-detailed and fiddly and text-based. The whole thing feels ugly and clunky, like a beta version of something that's still in development. In some ways I feel like this about the whole world of the game - it's incredibly detailed and rendered but it's also ramshackle and ugly and the main character looks like a mess and the technology looks scrobbled together like they're still working on it.

While I was showering, I got some communication from Deadman where he apologised for interrupting me on my 'break' and it occurred to me that I had been treating this respite as a sort of break, which is ridiculous. I'm playing a computer game ffs, why does it feel like I need to take virtual 'breaks' from it where I'm effectively staring into space?

And I guess that's one of the main themes in Death Stranding: man's relationship with labour. Why am I compelled to find this arduous trudge enjoyable? Why am I so relieved when I reach my destination? Then there's the whole thing with the MULEs and Homo Demens and their own obsession with cargo and portering. Reminds me of one of my favourite books, The Pale King, by David Foster Wallace, which is similarly a meditation on boredom and drudgery and how different people approach this.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 09:34 (four years ago) link

okay Gawd... another parallel with actual real work is that there's SO MUCH to take on board,
it feels like my first week on the job and I'm being bombarded with different admin tasks I'm supposed to understand, being given complicated systems training I can barely keep up with etc..
I feel like I walked in on my first day expecting to do some heavy lifting, and I'm getting told I'm doing great etc but also that there's a bunch of stuff I have to know first

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

great posts dl! it's true this game is a lot about your relationship to work, and being tasked. all (most of) the holograms at the various depots are so relentlessly upbeat and fawning over what you do i feel like it's a bit of an ego-boost placebo for most of us who play this game who probably don't get nearly enough of this at our actual jobs.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link

I can only hope I'd be as kind to someone who brought new underwear to my post-apocalyptic underground bunker

mh, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link

Kojima in 2019: this game is set in a near future where people live in self isolation hiding from an invisible threat, as a delivery man you play a key role in keeping society alive
Everyone: haha ok kojima

— Hal is in the air tonite (@halphelt) March 19, 2020

uncle-knower is coming for you (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 March 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

So strange that I started playing this almost to the day coronavirus hit the UK. As such I am finding it all at once strangely close to home, somewhat close to the bone and strangely comforting.
Unlike the Witcher, I'm quite content to play just one mission at a time and it doesn't seem to frustrate me if I get stuck or lose all my parcels and have to start again.

You'd think that having to start a mission over after you've trudged miles and miles while trying to stop parcels falling off your back would have the opposite effect, and that after a couple of attempts at getting through BT territory one would get frustrated and quit. But somehow I don't seem to mind. I die, I quit the game and come back to it afresh the next day hoping to find a new and better route.

That said, I'm still only on Lvl2, hoping to reach Lake Knot City. Haven't got the hang of getting past BTs

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 23 March 2020 11:09 (four years ago) link

...oops posted without finishing...

I have tried throwing grenades at them but somehow they still manage to grab me and throw me around like a rag doll. Those parts are especially stressful.

If you create a voidout, is that it? Is it there for the rest of the game? Do you mind? Do you just continue as is, or do you generally go back to an old save point?

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 23 March 2020 11:10 (four years ago) link

you just have to be patient with BTs. crouch, hold your breath while moving, stop, catch your breath, repeat.

not sure about the voidouts tbh.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 March 2020 11:36 (four years ago) link

i think i heard that they eventually clear up? i luckily never had one.

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Monday, 23 March 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

I find some of the confrontation mechanics almost deliberately clunky. like, I'll be confronting a BT and trying to throw a grenade at it, but somehow and for a reason I can't work out, Sam decides to freeze.
I'm also completely unsure how to use that decoy cargo on MULEs. With them I'm trying to use the Bola gun but mostly I just punch them and they go down fairly easily

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Thursday, 2 April 2020 07:51 (four years ago) link

Every time I think I’m done making Death Stranding Real jokes, the universe throws me a bone pic.twitter.com/JvNoVYI0pN

— Social “Distancing” Snake (@hyenasandgin) April 5, 2020

chihuahuau, Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

fuck

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 April 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

that is quite a trip

He is married to Brogmus, Linda. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 April 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

I’ve seen that a few times and there are a couple tells but it’s still somehow anxiety fuel

mh, Friday, 24 April 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

lol, you guys need to see the real life version of this that takes place in the first half hour of the 2019 film Aquarela; it will break your mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDCmNx22AF8

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 April 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link


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