END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

mcgovern wasn't even notably left except on the war, correct?

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.),

From what I've read Humphrey in '68 (hell, maybe Humphrey in '72) was more liberal, plus had the support of the classic New Deal coalition machine.

That's what I mean. That one loss 48 years ago doesn't prove very much about the viability of nominating a leftist candidate, given the number of factors involved and the fact that they have lost badly with moderate candidates as well. 3xp

McGovern’s candidacy was partly sold on the prospect of expanding the base and turning out the youth vote. The voting age had just been lowered to 18 in ‘71 and people thought it would be a game changer.

To discuss why McGovern lost and ignore the extent to which CREEP/Nixon ratfucked his candidacy from the start plus the masterful job Nixon had done stirring racial and anti-youth animus is to own a photo of Chris Matthews and aspire to his dumb fucking conventional wisdom.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2685064758250589&set=a.126190480804709&type=3&theater

Also, landslides don't happen anymore.

Trump is also Nixonian or at least aspires to be. McGovern was a straight shooter whereas Nixon was known as Tricky Dicky from the beginning of his long political career.

didn't a bunch of the mcgovern team end up in the clinton machine?

(just looked up pat caddell and he p much ended up on the trump team, also i hadn't spotted he died a year ago)

Namely, the Clintons. It's called getting old and corrupt.

haven't watched enough of THE IRISHMAN (2019) to discover if it explores how the union vote was deployed against mcgovern's "straight shooter" vibe: mcgovern inherited all the starry-eyed youngsters who thought RFK was purely a good guy in the kennedy-hoffa feud :\

tactically and strategically this was a bad thing to think: whatever their other virtues, dems after mcgovern were all busily anti-union

https://secure.everyaction.com/bdRKKaoH4EW3xw0KME-HVg2

Another McGovern parallel: he proposed an early form of UBI, a thousand dollars annually paid to every American citizen. Not sure what that works out to in 2020 dollars.

Twenty million dollars iirc

Yang should propose to give Americans 12 thousand dollars and then send them far enough back in time that they can live like kings off it for a year

Bernie Sanders, say it back

— tuunbaq for what (@BespokeHoover) February 3, 2020

dersan neeber

Yang should propose to give Americans 12 thousand dollars and then send them far enough back in time that they can live like kings off it for a year

This has the added bonus of ridding us of the Yang Gang. Win-win imo

Briny Sundress

what time do the results start pourin in

right after the corn is husked

Bernie wins the first caucus in the state.

Bernie Sanders wins the first votes of the primary — including Ethiopian immigrants who work the night shift at the local pork processing plant — in a county that went for Obama twice & flipped to Trump in 2016.

We’re gonna win. This is how. #NotMeUshttps://t.co/oVkS4g8otF https://t.co/re8oLsXC2W

— very cool and popular girl (@no_talent_shan) February 3, 2020

kinda lol but mostly etc

Why lol? The working class is banding together to create a more humane country

morbs perrin must not tweet about farming much

Going into tonight, a reminder to everyone that polls show a very close race
feel like bernie folks like me might letting themselves get too dizzy-confident
in almost any given poll each of Sanders, Biden, Buttigieg (!) and often Warren are within the margin of error to win
there are 3 legit ways to count the results, so someone other than Sanders is likely to win some if not all

also however, from montreal:
go bernie

re results/timing, from NYT:

The Iowa presidential caucuses begin at 8 p.m. Eastern time at more than 1,600 sites across the state. The caucuses vary in length; small gatherings can be over in minutes, larger ones can last up to two hours.

The first results are expected at 8:30 p.m. Eastern time, with most results in hand by 11 p.m.

dropping into this thread i don't post in anymore to say: go bernie

Done. pic.twitter.com/o8B87P2wDB

— Riley (@TheRileyWilson) February 3, 2020

sorry, treesh, but the working class is as polarized as the rest of the country. that's where the majority of the anti-immigrant sentiment is coming from. the bosses aren't anti-immigrant, but they are happy to ride that pony, if it gets their stooges into places of power and working for them.

Treesh the lol is from the pathos of one person standing in a group by themself

we've got a plan for... you to stand in the corner alone

lol morbs

can't wait for bernie to win one of our least democratic primary institutions by a couple of delegates tonight and thereby validate the international left most of whom appear to be on this thread

I think it’s cool she stuck up for Warren. Also go Bernie

Have the Tbilisi results come in yet?

Oh, I guess they're holding out.

The Tbilisi caucus was conducted successfully, over a traditional Iowan meal of pizza and ranch dressing – accompanied by Georgian wine. The results will be reported along with the rest of the results after the caucuses in Iowa take place. pic.twitter.com/SraYlfxAUq

— Joshua Kucera (@joshuakucera) February 3, 2020

lol Mordy, we didn't make the rules broheem

enjoying this verse of 'i didn't ask to come' by giddy morbs

I, too, wish the Democratic primary started in more representative places like Pennsylvania or Nevada or Michigan or New York or California... where Bernie would also be the favorite

Bernie Sanders

Mordy, I'd love to be able to royally ignore US politics but your country has a record of preventing that, so don't be so harsh on non-American posters itt, irritating though our presence may be.

Bernie's not the favorite in Pennsylvania, Michigan, or New York.

he will be, in 2 of those i think

yep you’re right. I guess I’ve just decided based on my feeeelings that Biden ain’t going to make it.

I mean, I definitely hope that after tonight's results come in he becomes the favorite in those states!

can't wait for bernie to win one of our least democratic primary institutions by a couple of delegates tonight and thereby validate the international left most of whom appear to be on this thread

― Mordy, Monday, 3 February 2020 bookmarkflaglink

The international left, it me, showing up on US, Venezuela, France, Chile, aBolivia threads. Full-time job.

I don't think it should be underestimated that Sanders built campaign organizations in all the early states just four years ago, while all the other candidates have had to start from scratch and compete for the activists and volunteers who weren't already emotionally committed to Bernie.

The remnants of Hillary's 2016 campaign do not have any single clear alternative among the 2020 candidates to whom they might shift their allegiance en masse. The HRC coalition seems like it will fragment and be widely dispersed in the early going. That's what has the DNC/establishment/old school centrist types so worried rn. They hoped Biden would blow away the field of moderate-voter-seeking centrists and coalesce the HRC voters. It hasn't happened, yet. The next two months look to be an increasingly fierce dog fight.

very true, we should all probably be thanking Pete for being Biden's biggest siphon.

Spankin’ Bumpers

can't wait for bernie to win

― Mordy, Monday, 3 February 2020 18:59 (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i stand with mordy