Dua Lipa

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The reaction on Popjustice is partly because the thread on Dua was started five years ago when a lot of people fell in love with her from the first release of Be The One (when it wasn't a hit). I followed that thread and people were crazy invested in her through every single and collaboration (and that's about eight singles) before the album even came out. It often looked like she might get dropped and be another popinjustice as often happens (see also Annie -- a hero on that forum). The first album was delayed three times and came out a whole year after its initial release date. It's strange to think about what a struggle it was to get that album out and remember that the label who were desperately looking for that hit, just put it out anyway with the Miguel single which was that album's biggest failure.

When New Rules went to number one, it was a rare moment for those posters where everything worked out. Dua seems to be getting everything right this time round and I really don't begrudge the Popjustice crowd for getting so excited. The Emotion comparison is just the idea of a perfect pop record that's perfectly executed (the quality of music, not the release I'm guessing) It looks like Dua is going to get the bigger commercial success, but it's worth remembering that in the U.K I Really Like You was actually a huge hit. It was only when Run Away With Me flopped and that ridiculous staggered release strategy when Emotion started heading for cult status.

kitchen person, Saturday, 1 February 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link

has nobody made the juice newton connection with this song yet or is it just obvious on the face of it?
Anyways, this is loads of fun!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 1 February 2020 18:54 (four years ago) link

I don't think anyone has made a juice newton connection.
Plenty have made the Olivia Newton John connection though.

MarkoP, Saturday, 1 February 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link

lol, i don't know why i wrote that! my mind was free associating i guess; that's what i get for playing with the queen of hearts.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 1 February 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

xxp -- alice chater's "hourglass" is another gaga revival, it's been happening for at least a year now

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Sunday, 2 February 2020 03:51 (four years ago) link

ava max reminds me of marina just as much as she does gaga

ufo, Sunday, 2 February 2020 03:55 (four years ago) link

Physical is great but not convinced by the other two yet. I'm not really hearing the 09 Gaga sound other than the sheer bombast of the production, to me this "era" is definitely more in key with Sophie Ellis-Bextor's commercial peak of disco revivalism

boxedjoy, Monday, 3 February 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link

Physical is great but not convinced by the other two yet.

madness x2

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 3 February 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link

Physcial is my least favourite of the three, but I still love it and think the album is shaping up to be something special.

kitchen person, Monday, 3 February 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the greatest song of all time is now on streaming services: https://open.spotify.com/album/0MaGeHimijY3IhEWPkTUEx

monotony, Sunday, 23 February 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link

Love this remix, real Ewan Pearson meets Aeroplane vibes.

Tim F, Monday, 24 February 2020 06:56 (four years ago) link

should mention that hearing them back to back on the radio the other day i was struck by the sonic similarities between "blinding lights" and "physical"

monotony, Monday, 24 February 2020 07:09 (four years ago) link

Take On My New Attitude

breastcrawl, Monday, 24 February 2020 07:27 (four years ago) link

That one part of this reminds me so much of lizzo’s “juice” it feels intentional

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 24 February 2020 08:01 (four years ago) link

should mention that hearing them back to back on the radio the other day i was struck by the sonic similarities between "blinding lights" and "physical"

― monotony, Monday, 24 February 2020 07:09 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Otm these songs definitely occupy the same space in my head

or something, Monday, 24 February 2020 11:42 (four years ago) link

I would be fine with the next few singles being progressively longer remixes of DSN

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 24 February 2020 13:27 (four years ago) link

is that remix purchasable anywhere?

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:03 (four years ago) link

(at 320 or higher)

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 24 February 2020 14:03 (four years ago) link

itunes?

dyl, Monday, 24 February 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link

Is this remix ever so slightly slower than the original?

Indexed, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:05 (four years ago) link

iTunes isn't 320, sadly.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 24 February 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link

xp possibly. also fyi this is called a "remix" on spotify but it's just the recording of a live session she did

monotony, Monday, 24 February 2020 22:34 (four years ago) link

o rly?

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 24 February 2020 22:36 (four years ago) link

I thought the vocal take sounded different.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 24 February 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link

yes I posted the YouTube vid in here about a month ago - see here: https://youtu.be/YSoT3T58QFY

monotony, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 00:18 (four years ago) link

Amazing how the remix just fixes everything that doesn't quite work about the original and then spends the last couple of minutes just putting its hands in the air.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 07:41 (four years ago) link

Also I think it's a remix interspersed with bits of live vocal? Really hammers home the extent to which her production sucks all the spontaneity out of her performance.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 07:43 (four years ago) link

i did a quick side by side comparison and i think that's right. the original song, the "live in la" performance video and the "remix" seem to all have the same vocal take, with the "live" ones just having a few live ad-libs added. the only difference i can tell between the performance video and the remix is the mix has been adjusted slightly - the drums hit harder is the main thing.

the original is fine but the remix really should have been the single. just cut off the intro for the radio edit and it's perfect surely?

ufo, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 08:33 (four years ago) link

I think you must all be high :D

Now, if there was a version of the single mix extended out to 6 minutes then we we would be talking.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link

I have a very good edit of it by mikeandtess and it's just under 6 minutes but it got removed from bandcamp, sadly.

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link

oh it's now a free download on mikeandtess's soundcloud.

https://soundcloud.com/mikeandtess13

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link

Thanks.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link

how big is she in North America? is she big-big or niche-big?

Alain the Botton (jed_), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link

"new rules" and the calvin harris collab were big-big, don't think she has much of a profile otherwise

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link

the hot 100 isn't everything, but 'don't start now' is at #5 right now. a new peak for her.

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link

oh i was wondering if i should've checked "don't start now"'s status on the charts. that fuckin rocks

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link

she's been on the major us late night shows like four times which is a pretty good barometer for mainstream awareness

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

"Don't Start Now" should climb again this week if BTS, who unexpectedly vaulted into #4 without any radio play, drop down. Lady Gaga's single is looking unlikely to threaten the top 5 but "Blinding Lights" might with its strong airplay performance.

"Physical" has so far peaked at #11 in the UK but isn't doing much on any other chart. (It's not on the Hot 100 at all at the moment). She hasn't really promoted "Physical" at all - at least in comparison to the way she promoted "Don't Start Now" - so I wonder whether they're saving the next barrage for a third single to then lead into the album release, which is now only a month away.

monotony, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link

my kids fucking love dua lipa. they know pretty much all the words to DSN. i have never played them on the speakers in the house to my knowledge. it's Out There. i love it.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link

I'm actually DJing in Los Angeles in April, as half of Hot Mess, and only the second time we have been booked outside the UK, and I'm very excited. Although I/we play mostly house & techno I like to throw something very current in amongst the more minimal stuff we usually play to hype up the energy or whether that wuls be seen as naff? So the reason I asked about her North American profile was that I was wondering if playing DSN would work. fwiw, it's an LGBT party.

and fwiw, as well, If you are in LA get in touch, send me a webmail on here or whatever. The party is called Ostbanhof. It seems extremely cool (ostbanhof is the name of the station you get off at to go to Bergain in Berlin)

Alain the Botton (jed_), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link

wuls= would

Alain the Botton (jed_), Wednesday, 4 March 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link

the remix, live in LA or whatever it's called has the excellent percolating intro, which as someone said above should be the standard version of the song… and I have heard it on multiple radio formats and in RL situations in the past month…it is immediately effective in every single context I have encountered, so I would think it would go down a storm at the LGBT party of which you speak…probly a lot of the people who will be there do already or will know it by then, and any that don't would likely be immediately into it…

veronica moser, Thursday, 5 March 2020 01:50 (four years ago) link

god the live in la version is so perfect

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 March 2020 01:54 (four years ago) link

I've played it at Hot Mess in Glasgow and it does GO OFF! for sure. I played the mikeandtess edit that I linked above.

Alain the Botton (jed_), Thursday, 5 March 2020 02:33 (four years ago) link

thanks, Veronica.

Alain the Botton (jed_), Thursday, 5 March 2020 02:35 (four years ago) link

i'm glad to hear ppl's kids like her. personally i rarely hear anyone talk about her irl, tho this song and "new rules" are def big/widely heard

dyl, Thursday, 5 March 2020 03:50 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvVonQ7LUJ0

groovypanda, Friday, 6 March 2020 13:14 (four years ago) link

"New Rules" and "Don't Start Now" have become supermarket music, which is to me the undisputable, definitive proof that an artist has really broken into mainstream.

cpl593H, Friday, 6 March 2020 13:46 (four years ago) link

Aren't you the guy who
Tried to hurt me with the word "goodbye"
'Fore it took some time to survive you
I'm better on the other side

Feel like this is explicit acknowledgement that the lyrics are 'I Will Survive Pt 2' but maybe I'm reaching

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 6 March 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link

I think it's a definite.

Alain the Botton (jed_), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link


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