be it resolved that the ILM EOY tracks poll institute a one-track-per-artist-per-rollout limit

I don't agree with that. If someone wants to vote for 11 Purple Mountains songs, they've my blessing (even though I think it's silly to do so).

see here:

it would be good to have a friendly reminder during voting that it's best to adopt a "one track per artist" policy in your list, and people who insist on voting for 4 or 5 tracks from a single album should be sternly tutted at.

How about this: limit the rollout to one track per release? So if an artist had a prolific year and released two non-album singles, one EP, and two albums, each can be represented by a single track. But if they only released one album and nothing else, the album can't be represented by more than one track.

Yeah that's probably best xpost

No, Tuomas

How about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM5W7Xn7FiA

The ~problem~ here still ultimately seems that other people vote for tracks you don't like. If you feel one artist is hogging up places in the 77, then look at places 85-78 when it's done or something.

The problem is that places 78-85 aren't rolled out individually and discussed, which is the main point of the whole excercise. Otherwise the entire vote results could just be posted all at once.

Voting for the other version of No Limits where instead of the rap you just get "TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO"

If an artist released several amazing songs and enough different people vote for enough of them, shouldn't we celebrate the songs rather than ignore their existence?

Eh we’re not running a museum here, I’d rather the list functioned as a place to be exposed to lots of different new stuff

Voting for the other version of No Limits where instead of the rap you just get "TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO TECHNO"

Isn't this U96's "Das Boot"?

[/i]If an artist released several amazing songs and enough different people vote for enough of them, shouldn't we celebrate the songs rather than ignore their existence?[/i]

Eh we’re not running a museum here, I’d rather the list functioned as a place to be exposed to lots of different new stuff

Exactly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLG0XWM_Dg

This was the version they released in the UK for some reason

Brb voting for both versions. (I did not know that btw, odd!)

Saying the word 'no' twelve times into someone's head, that could have a BAD effect.

Technically thirteen

there were a total of 44 votes for purple mountains tracks, but only from 24 voters, so most purple mountains voters were voting for two of their songs at least.

Well, no. That's an average of 1.83.

Half of those 24 have said they voted in various places. And this sample accounts for *just* short of half of the votes. We know "Margaritas at the Mall" received five votes in total, so the maximum possible number of people voting for every single nomination is TWO! It may be just the one for all I know.

Seven of these twelve voted for just one track each. And there's no overlap at all between many of the ballots. I'm even more convinced that this is not an actual problem.

Voter            SNOW   GONE   NIGHT  DARK   MARG
a                X      .      .      .      .  
b                X      .      .      .      .  
c                .      .      X      .      .  
d                X      .      .      .      X
e                X      X      X      X      X
f                X      .      .      .      .
g                .      .      .      X      X
h                X      .      .      .      .
i                X      .      X      .      .
j                X      X      .      .      X
k                .      .      X      .      .
l                .      X      .      .      .

"have said HOW they voted"

I have read that a few times and am not sure what point you are making, but just telling voters e and j that they should try to restrict themselves to 1 or 2 tracks would have likely knocked Margaritas out of the 77.

Seems likely, but what point would that actually serve apart from potentially denying a couple of voters a vote for what may genuinely be one of their favourite tracks of the year?

Seems likely, but what point would that actually serve apart from potentially denying a couple of voters a vote for what may genuinely be one of their favourite tracks of the year?

They can still vote for two of their favourite tracks by the act! The point it serves is that the top 77 will become more interesting and more varied, more likely to introduce some new songs and artists to ILXors. So for the general good you'll have to sacrifice your selfish want to vote for 4 or 5 songs by the same band. Doesn't sound to horrible to me.

Seems a completely arbitrary restriction. We're talking about distinct tracks here. The artist or the collection of recordings it happens to be bundled with need have no bearing on it. I'd think it extremely, er, ill-advised but wouldn't even want to reject a ballot with all 25 tracks derived from the same LP. We either want to know the voter's favourite songs (however they judge that) or we don't.

people were asking about this / arguing again so I figured I'd give it a bump so ppl could be reminded how definitive this was

lol this never actually works - people just ignore the result and repeat their argument. Shit what if politics was like this...

I voted for 3 PM tracks, but I'm totally fine with having a 2-track limit per artist. That's reasonable IMO.

The reason I voted for 3 is because 1) I really liked those three tracks; 2) I underestimated the popularity of this artist here and thus voted in hopes that I'd hit on one track that others liked enough to vote for also. I really didn't expect them to place more than twice in the top 77.

the funny thing is that Purple Mountains didn't even place in the album poll

oh shit i said that out loud didn't i

if you actually read the above you'll see people proposed something completely different and then it was characterised as being the same thing all over again in order to shut them up. so yes, see what you mean there.

I’d rather the list functioned as a place to be exposed to lots of different new stuff

Well, we have lots of threads for that already. This is a poll, and it should reflect the desired votes of the voting base as accurately as it can. Yes, it's boring to have lots of repeats, I agree, but if that's what people are voting for then that's what we should see in the results. A stern tutting is the limit for me.

I think we should just give half weight to votes for artists who died during the year in question, since they always get overrated.

As someone who voted for Mac Miler last year and nearly voted for Sulli this year, this is not true.

what about compulsory lie detector tests to make sure it really is your favourite tracks of the year?

all votes to dead artists should be reduced by 21 grams

The more ppl complain about this, the less I’m convinced it’s a problem. What if Purple Rain were released this year?

Just roll out the top 100 (or, heck, anything that gets more than 1 vote); but announce the lower songs on the list in “chunks” or something, and without individualized artwork. You can’t please everyone!

1999 was released this year and virtually nobody voted for it!

i like the esoteric poll that's been done post results the last few years, think it's fave album that only received 1 vote and it was a top 3 for that person

― nxd, Wednesday, January 30, 2019 7:07 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

i really like this too.

People get soooooo pissy about tracks poll every single year, it's almost enough to justify one's belief in the innate superiority of the album format

are we getting enough votes this past decade each year to expand the rollout to 100 tracks?

I'd like to stick to 77, as it's the special ILx number, and also 100 feels a bit much.

agreed