But anyway, there it is: the first attempt known to man at NaijaPiano:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT9GvDEnprIAdekunle Gold x DJ Tunez • Kelegbe Megbe (Remix)(you may know the original from last year’s thread - or from the EOY noms playlist)We’re not exactly at Kabza level here yet, the vocal is buried too much in the mix for starters, but I’ve been waiting for this to happen and God knows how Naija pop might be sounding in a year’s time. Remember what Uhuru-wave and gqom>shagqom shaku did for Naija pop?
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
Yeah I heard and dismissed it, lol. The original version is awesome though.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link
I appreciate the effort much more than the outcome. Blissed out is not an easy sound to achieve.
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link
can't listen to that right now but gonna take it as retroactive vindication of my saying "Kelegbe Megbe" sounded like the Nigerian wing of the House of Sun El
dubious self-otms aside: yesss, I am ready for blissed out naija!
― rob, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:14 (four years ago) link
It’s not that it’s bad - I just prefer remixes that improve on the original tune. And this particular one was already perfect.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link
xpfucking hell, you’re right, I remember! I guess it was destined to have this role in NaijaPiano history. Check out this (condensed) sequence from last year’s thread:Can’t wait to hear what NaijaPiano is going to sound like.― breastcrawl, zondag 30 juni 2019 1:27 Digging the new Adekunle Gold, “Kelegbe Megbe (Know Your Level)”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MucSft25l6I― breastcrawl, maandag 1 juli 2019 23:32 Playing catch-up this morning. That Adekunle Gold track "Know Your Level" is really good--great to see it as I haven't enjoyed much he's done in a long time. It would fit nicely in the Nigerian wing of the House of Sun-El― rob, donderdag 11 juli 2019 15:39 That’s a connection I would never have made! Not sure I can hear it like that though, it feels more of a piece with the Burna stuff to me.― breastcrawl, donderdag 11 juli 2019 18:20 Yeah it's not like a huge break from other naija stuff or anything, but Gold is such a gentle presence (compared to someone like Burna) and, especially, the little break at 2:00 gives me some of the same feeling as...whatever we'd call that Sun-El microgenre. If that moment was stretched out I think it would connect even more strongly.― rob, donderdag 11 juli 2019 18:30lol
Can’t wait to hear what NaijaPiano is going to sound like.― breastcrawl, zondag 30 juni 2019 1:27 Digging the new Adekunle Gold, “Kelegbe Megbe (Know Your Level)”:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MucSft25l6I― breastcrawl, maandag 1 juli 2019 23:32 Playing catch-up this morning. That Adekunle Gold track "Know Your Level" is really good--great to see it as I haven't enjoyed much he's done in a long time. It would fit nicely in the Nigerian wing of the House of Sun-El― rob, donderdag 11 juli 2019 15:39 That’s a connection I would never have made! Not sure I can hear it like that though, it feels more of a piece with the Burna stuff to me.― breastcrawl, donderdag 11 juli 2019 18:20 Yeah it's not like a huge break from other naija stuff or anything, but Gold is such a gentle presence (compared to someone like Burna) and, especially, the little break at 2:00 gives me some of the same feeling as...whatever we'd call that Sun-El microgenre. If that moment was stretched out I think it would connect even more strongly.― rob, donderdag 11 juli 2019 18:30
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:36 (four years ago) link
good call, rob!
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link
Is it just me or could this Mr Eazi "Kpalanga" go on for another few minutes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHHCX_Y1blM
― rob, Saturday, 1 February 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link
Oh wow, damn that’s good! Killertunes continuing down the “Doyin” trail (another song that was way too short btw). Probably my favourite Naija single of the year so far.Tekno must be jealous - and I’m not just saying that because of the “kpalanga” connection.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 1 February 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link
"Kpalanga" was the first song on the apple music Africa Now playlist I listened to today, and it is great!
― juntos pedemos (Euler), Saturday, 1 February 2020 20:49 (four years ago) link
The new Runtown is viiiibes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvGoaq3t_xs
Runtown ft. Darkovibes & Bella Shmurda • Body Riddim (produced by Del B)
This guy is due for a real comeback - I was lukewarm on last year's EP.
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 1 February 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link
Both of those are very nice. I posted this Burna banga over in the other thread but it deserves its place in here as well.
Nappy & Burna Boy - Ayehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCXjRUasA48
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 1 February 2020 23:23 (four years ago) link
Speaking of gorgeous Killertunes productions, I never posted “My Lady” by Ghanaian singer King Promise last year, but I did nominate it and me and two others voted for it. Beautiful song, he’s such a strong melocidist:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ76p4_RrOw
― breastcrawl, Sunday, 2 February 2020 13:25 (four years ago) link
I definitely voted for it. One of my favourite tunes from last year. It’s the 2019 Mad Over You in my book.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 2 February 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 2 February 2020 14:02 (four years ago) link
(Sorry for the dp - network issues)
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 2 February 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link
Rundown track is excellent, love the glistening slide guitar plus those wah-wah squelches
― rob, Monday, 3 February 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link
Anyone else catch the soukous beat during Super Bowl halftime? That has to be a first (@ 0:34)
That was incredible, @jlo + @shakira! 👏 #PepsiHalftime #SBLIVSOON: Fans can relive their favorite moments from the #PepsiHalftime show HERE https://t.co/TegS1TZFKy pic.twitter.com/1HkRu99cRR— NFL (@NFL) February 3, 2020
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 3 February 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link
Wrote on the Rolling Global thread:
Shakira At Super Bowl halftime used the Congo instrumental song Icha by Syran Mbenza. The guitar solo is by Lokassa Ya Mbongo I am reading on twitter. Colombian champeta is drawn from Congolese rumba in part.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 3 February 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link
those king promise & nappy tracks.... 👌🏼
― ||||||||, Monday, 3 February 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link
curmudgeon -- thanks! Is that song sampled somewhere in a Shakira song or was it just a one-off? Great track!
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 3 February 2020 23:20 (four years ago) link
Not sure
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 13:43 (four years ago) link
Yes, it’s wonderful and I’m happy Shakira pointed me and (I’m sure) countless others toward it.
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link
"Put In Pressure" is another good one from Reekado Banks, it's produced by Kel-P:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKjc-KIoywk
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link
Burna Boy made ILM top 77 albums list. Not too much else. I wonder how many votes Lady Donli got?
― curmudgeon, Friday, 7 February 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
She came in at #276, with just two people voting for her. Were you the other one beside me? (She was my #10)(You do know you can all the stats and ballots here, right?: ILM Albums Poll 2019: Thread of Stats and Ballots.
― breastcrawl, Friday, 7 February 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link
Yes I voted for her album. Will look at stats later thanks.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 7 February 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link
loving the new obongjayar ep--not sure if he totally fits in this thread so i created one for him
up like sun, down like sun - a thread for obongjayar
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Friday, 7 February 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link
we lost in the senate
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 8 February 2020 01:38 (four years ago) link
Yes!
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 8 February 2020 12:49 (four years ago) link
a sad day for afrocracy
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 8 February 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link
Rooting for this guy to blow up this year:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YklxpCux98Efoya ft. Buju • Mind GamesEjoya is apparently a (Nigerian) label? talent platform? - the song and the voice are all Buju’s.(his “Spiritual” was ILM’s #593 -too low!- track of 2019)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 8 February 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link
And for contrast, this sort of post-gqom’my hyperbanger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh0orm91hNMKamaCzza ft. Professor, Character & DJ Oros • Bayekeni(yeah, 15 views, whatever - it’s the shit)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 8 February 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link
(South African obviously)
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 8 February 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link
Bonus SA stuff, from Matorokisi, one of my favourite albums of last year - the best sound you’ll ever hear:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMCG0CrTxzgMakhadzi ft. DJ Tira • Riya Venda
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 8 February 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link
Never write off Kwamz & Flava - Ghana, London... and now New York? Whenever, wherever, it’s “Gafro”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-VeO64U8xI
― breastcrawl, Saturday, 8 February 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link
So the Amapiano Grooves playlist on Spotify is very good, and I just discovered that it is even better if you let it play in automix mode (crossfader set to 0s). I've never noticed any similar effect in other playlists but this one actually mixes the tracks in a satisfying way, cutting away all the three minute long shaker intros and two minute outros, heading straight for the meat of the song. Try it out!
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 10 February 2020 09:27 (four years ago) link
b-b-but the three minute long shaker intros and two minute outros are essential! Meat is overrated anyway.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 10 February 2020 10:10 (four years ago) link
lol, i do see your point. However... the mixed versions bring out the pop potential in these tunes.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 10 February 2020 10:17 (four years ago) link
Here's something a bit different. Not sure if it quite belongs ITT but I'm really feeling Quem Manda No Mic by Angolan-Portuguese artist Pongo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aTpjiBT3p8
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 10 February 2020 11:57 (four years ago) link
xps I can't see a crossfader with the automix feature?
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 10 February 2020 11:59 (four years ago) link
It’s right above the gapless playback toggle on my iPhone?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
no worries, i found it on settings on my computer. anyway, off to sell my CDJs....
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
shame (not a shame) it only works on some playlists
― doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link
There's a newish Tekno tune that I really like....
Tekno - Suruhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znrrQjb6WUY
Also nice, on the uk tip:
Kida Kudz feat. Jaykae - 1AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tydTT9dWDM
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 12:30 (four years ago) link
I like that Pongo track dog latin posted. Here’s some more Angolan stuff:Finally a video for Nerú & Scro’s “Tic Táa”. DJ Vado Poster in the house - no doubt he does it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYcj0gACjnMNerú Americano & Scró Q Cuia • Tic Táa(too bad these two buddies don’t get as intimate here as in their live performancesof this banger)Slightly less frantic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNScT5s9xkcGilson Gera ft. Cleusio Gil & Emma Strawb3 • Mormão Mormão MormãoChange le beat: This one’s firmly from last year, but I wasn’t paying attention:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l_gGj_qpL8Preto Show ft. Filho de Zua, Teo no Beat & Uami Ndongadas • Pedra
― breastcrawl, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link
late 2019 but anyone been listening to the joeboy EP? it's very boyish and sweet and on the R&B side of things, almost reminds me of like early chris brown but afropop
"all for you" is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW6aSd0WPzk
as is "beginning"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUnx13A4XDs
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 February 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link
Joeboy is great - I particularly like Beginning. I also somehow got the impression that Mr Eazi was moving in a joeboy-ey direction with the sweet and romantic kpalanga (posted above).
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link
Joeboy started out as a Mr Eazi protégé. Some of that backstory here: https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/8541512/joeboy-mr-eazi-nigeria-new-ep-interviewAs for their sound, both “Beginning” and “Kpalanga”, as well as Eazi’s earlier “Doyin”, were produced by Killertunes. Joeboy is sort of a non-identical musical twin of Fireboy DML, similar timeline, similar style, similar appeal.Speaking of which, there’s finally a video for “Vibration”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRhBfL3GEjQ(Fireboy had been indulging his sappy side a bit too much for my liking with his previous video for the rob-vetoed “Need You”)
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
Big song in Nigeria right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGpwNm0A6gISarz x WurlD • Mad(Sarz and WurlD did a whole EP together, I Love Girls With Trobul.I know this song is from last year (Brad championed it during the EOY) but it was never posted here, plus I had somehow never seen the video. Ooh child... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVEp-P2-rqYTems • Try MeBoth “Mad” and “Try Me” seem to me examples of Nigerian pop aligning (itself) more with the international global mainstream, if that makes sense.They do it both in different ways, “Try Me” through r&b, and “Mad”, I don’t know, something about the melody - or is it just that WurlD’s voice seems tailor-made to be featured on a generic Armin van Buuren EDM-pop confection?
― breastcrawl, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link
Thanks for making up the playlists for the nominated stuff as always breastcrawl and everyone for all the songs this year, I’ve been too damn busy this past year and need to catch up. Sounds like a tonne of great shit came out.
― Will (kruezer2), Monday, 4 January 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link
thanx kruezer! let me put said playlists up here as well. the afropop one includes the amaarae album, which, rob is right, is indeed very good.
― partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link
(copied from the 2020 EOY Voting & Campaigning thread:)Just like last year, I made two Spotify playlists for all the (*very* broadly defined) African “pop” that has been nominated:one for all the South African stuff: first the 47/48 nominated tracks and after that the 16 albums that were nominated (I counted the Keleketla! album Nabozo is championing as South African), 273 tracks in total, a lot more than last year. that’s 25 hours of music to get lost in: lots of amapiano, some Limpopo house, a bit of gqom and of course several representatives of the House of Sun-El.link: ILM 2020 EOY🇿🇦SOUTH AFRICAN NOMS...and one for all the non-SA African stuff, 62 tracks and 18 albums, 279 tracks in total, similar to last year. I stretched “pop” to include Nyege Nyege, Tony Allen & Masekela (counted this one towards the non-SA side) and “African” to include Afro-Portuguese (by way of the UK and France) batida-makers DJ Danifox and Nídia. Oh, and Moroccan-French band Bab L’Bluz is there as well, because I like ‘em.link: ILM 2020 EOY🔷AFROPOP NOMSPlease let me know if you think I forgot or overlooked something!
― partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link
I went ahead and created a new thread for afrobeats / afro-pop btwRolling Afrobeats 2021
I guess someone can come up with a fancy title for a South African thread (rolling amaKhosi nezIndlovukazi yAmapiano, gqom, house neKwaito 2021)
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link
not sure we need a Rolling South African thread. we have plenty of active and ongoing SA-themed threads as is. what do others think?
― partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link
I'd like to be less of a bystander re: afro-pop this year, but that's more likely to happen on a Nigeria/Ghana thread than a SA one so I defer to the experts here. FWIW I like the Sun-Et Al. thread, it feels very classic ilm, so I def wouldn't want to pre-empt that one
― rob, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link
i think a rolling south african thread to collect everything might be good actually, it's a little awkward at the moment with everything split over about three different threads, and it's helpful to delineate the new year too
we can make threads for any particular albums that deserve more attention of course but having a single rolling thread to collect everything else would be my preference
― ufo, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link
it would also make it much easier to keep up with things which is the biggest benefit
― ufo, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link
I think it made sense in 2019-20 to have individual threads with the guys driving the new sound, but now as it grows organically it does feel complicated to assign a logic to each thread.Things are working rather well on the afro-pop front with the rolling thread + individual threads for main artists - albums that are big events - occasional polls
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link
I agree that there’s a strong case for a Rolling SA thread, even if like rob I’m very partial to the Sun-El thread. it’s definitely true that the logic behind those threads is getting increasingly difficult to maintain. a Kabza-produced Samthing Soweto amapiano release could go on all of the current three main ones, for example.If it’s alright with you folx I will make that Rolling thread and try to wrap up the other ones to some extent. Don’t think I will go for anything fancy as a title tho, wouldn’t want to create any new confusion!
― partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link
more likely to happen on a Nigeria/Ghana thread
― partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link
oh for sure, was just alluding to my own biases there. That said, I watched a Baloji-directed short on the Criterion Channel the other night (Zombies, highly recommended) that made me want to check out the Congolese scene.
I endorse the rolling SA plan.
― rob, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link
If anyone has moderating powers I'm happy to have Afro-Pop added to the title, which I also slightly prefer as a catch-all, although imo afrobeats is still okay as a term despite the slight controversy it has attracted, it's known by listeners by now and it's also what we post :)
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link
― partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link
let me ask a moderator
― partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link
yeah sure, but it appears a little arbitrary to me to consider that afro-pop is acceptable as an umbrella term for bongo flava but that afrobeats is not, especially if we accept that the term is now international and, correct me if I'm wrong, still in use.I'm no expert in the genre, but there used to be a plurality of terms (Azonto etc) corresponding to the different styles and dances even in NIG-GHA, so I always thought of afrobeats as an umbrella.The fact that the Tanzanians so easily collaborate with the Congolese for example also muddles waters and would almost make you wonder about having other umbrella termsAnyway, I don't mean to be argumentative here, just saying it's hard to cut clear and reconcile all views (international, African, national etc).
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link
still in use *in Africa (and West Africa most relevantly).
― Nabozo, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link
like I said, we’ve done this before, but “afrobeats” has been controversial from the start, as a term coined in the UK a decade ago for the burgeoning new pop scene in Ghana and Nigeria, with a play on “afrobeat” (because Fela Kuti cs was the only reference people had in the UK), that had no currency in those countries themselves - and still isn’t universally accepted there (Burna Boy insisting on “afro-fusion”, Adekunle Gold naming his album “Afro Pop”). it was never meant to include the pop music of other African countries (where the Fela Kuti connection would make even less sense to begin with). It’s unfortunate that the term has caught on in the US music press as well, but it doesn’t mean we have to toe the line. I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t think of describing Sun-El’s music as “afrobeats”, and yet that is the trend as it is internationally.“Afropop” or “African pop” are simply much more neutral as descriptive terms. the only problem you run into is where to draw the line for what constitutes “pop music”, but that’s a general debate that has nothing to do with *African* music specifically.
― partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link
our two new Rolling threads for 2021:Rolling Afropop / Afrobeats 2021MZANSI MUZIQ 2021 🇿🇦 Rolling South Africa thread
― partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 08:38 (three years ago) link