is New York City dead?

why (non-rich) people still want to move here is what's confusing me

not leaving was the dumbest mistake of my life

"Transplants" are good for NYC. Parked foreign capital in empty luxury apartments is just unabashedly not, in any way.

yeah i never really understand how people dont see the dissonance between complaining "too many young ppl are ruining ny by moving here" while simultaneously complaining "ny is boring now, the art/creative/whatever scene sucks"

they’re actually just complaining about the fact that they’re not 20 anymore

i don't think moss is bemoaning the quantity of the young people, or the youngness of the people, so much as the quality of the young people. obviously the people who can afford to rent renovated market price apartments in the west village or williamsburg in 2020 etc are going to be nightmare pod people.

east village rather. w village ship long sailed surely

warhol moved to the city at 21, from suburban Pittsburgh

yeah, he's talking more about the quality of people able to afford to move to ny in the present day. Unfortunately that aesthetic of pleasant sameness and lack of niche interests is available everywhere. internet and globalization.

the vanishing ny blog always spoke from the perspective of ‘there’s nothing in nyc worth considering outside of manhattan’.

complaining "ny is boring now, the art/creative/whatever scene sucks"

the writer doesn't even seem to go this far -- he's just upset that the 'queers and artists' moved out of the east village and left him behind in the 1990s

i moved to the East Village in '89, so by Jeremiah's logic I have seniority over him. So then: if he did not have such a pronounced investment in shaking his fist at the sky Job-style, it would behoove him to realize that it is time for him to go. The neighborhood is fairly or unfairly not for him any longer, and he should move to a neighborhood (perhaps Brownsville or East New York is suitably gritty for him?) or another town. But then, it seems that inveighing on this matter gives his life meaning and he would be lost without doing so.

By my reckoning, the fuckin' EV sucked many many years ago, so I left. Yet Jeremiah and another former ILXor each have a identity built around impotent indignance regarding the neighborhood's former status… I wonder if either have ever attended a communiry board meeting? Not as easy as complaining on the internet, mind…

I know people who laugh heartily at the prospect of the East Village having retained any kind of ineffable bohemian character in the early 90s. And I seem to be recall that Jeremiah is a mental health professional of some sort? I can't imagine a personality less ill suited to offer even tempered, considered counsel…

it's a very fading mentality to stake a place out and then never ever leave.

that's BS iatee

felicity lived in the east village in the late 90s.

Queens content on his blog 2 weeks ago

https://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2020/01/neirs-tavern-saved.html

"‘there’s nothing in nyc worth considering outside of manhattan’."

god, what an asshole.

i was reading this thing in eater about Taco Chulo in wburg (which I am pretty sure I have never eaten at) closing and they were lamenting that all the hipsters left and now all the families in the condos only want to stay in and order delivery.

yes, iatee sure is when he makes up shit

xp

I had dinner there last night incidentally xp

Morbs Jeremiah is pretty open about not having any interest in the New York outside of the borough he chose to be a transplant in, no need to go search through his blog to find the 3% of token outer borough content

sort of like your token participation in Occupy WS

lmao

If only iatee had camped out for another two weeks we’d have full communism today

well he had to go make coffee for Hillary

there was still bohemian shit in the EV, i'd say into the early 2000s.. the Slipper Room seemed like the death knell but it wasn't quite the end. You'd still have nights where you could wander through people's apartments, doors open, connected backyards, people passing through. Stereototal washed up for awhile, one of them became a bouncer at Luna Lounge.. a friend of mine had a guitar repair shop on Ludlow. her own shop! on Ludlow! it was never open. She lived on Orchard. I think she moved out in like 2002, 2003? I asked why and it wasn't because they had raised the rent on her yet, it was because she said the neighborhood sucked, the weekends were terrible, just overrun with abrasive douchebags.

that's the reason HiFI closed too. It wasn't the rent, the neighborhood just changed and wasn't interested.

lol I'm sort of mixing up EV and LES.. shows what a new yorker i am these days 🙄

I had to look up whether the Slipper Room was still open. I thought it was a lot older than it is.

the least believable part of this essay is the idea that whomever he lives near named madison is a guy https://www.babynamewizard.com/voyager#prefix=madison&sw=both&exact=true

also I admittedly have committed the apparently grave faux pas of sitting down on a curb (if you're not blocking traffic who gives a shit, laundry detergent exists, there is as much or more "danger" in the germs that accumulate on every single doorknob you touch) so now I wonder if this dude has taken a picture of me for his <s>spank bank</s> apparent edification

I get where the “go back to iowa” sentiment came
from but tbh our per-year exports are not nearly enough to really twist the demographics

I can only think of three or four people
in brooklyn who came from this state in my general (30 - 45) range

maybe every iowa city grad goes there idk

I lived in the East Village from ‘98 to ‘04, near Tompkins Square Park. I can sympathize with this guy because I’m getting old too and these damn kids with their damn packages for every damn thing and their loud voices in the hallway are annoying as heck. OTOH in more reflective moments I would have to admit that the only constant is change and the bohos who move into dodgy neighborhoods will always and forever be the leading wedge of gentrification. You might as well complain about the weather.

speaking of new york city and death, i need to make a will. anyone have a lawyer to recommend?

the least believable part of this essay is the idea that whomever he lives near named madison is a guy

It's Bumgarner presumably

You might as well complain about the weather.

yeah, u guys don't get it

I guess one thing I do wonder (and I mean wonder -- as a 40 yo dad in central queens, I'm pretty disconnected from this) -- is whether there is any single neighborhood in NYC today that feels like *the vibrant cutting edge* locus of the arts? Has there been a place like that since Bushwick peaked? Because I have a theory that geography plus COL has made that hard, as it's become more difficult to have any kind of centralized area and instead people with less money who are in the arts get spread out in many different directions.

i know multiple people with studio space in the industrial part of maspeth. get on the maspeth train while you can. thats a metaphorical train cause theres no actual train that goes there

yeah i feel like you need commercially zoned dead space for an artistic bohemian area to really work i.e. hackney wick, early williamsburg, etc

the spread-out thing sounds right to me. people lucking into decent rentals in lefferts gardens and ridgewood, workin on stuff in maspeth and in sunset park, promising to come by each other's studios, having to reschedule, settling on coffee the third thursday of next month, someplace in manhattan where their trains come together.

please stay the fuck away from windsor terrace; we got a good thing going here

Still parts of East Williamsburg green point and Bushwick that are zoned industrial and have light industry mixed with start ups and offices. My old building at Morgan and division is still filled with artists and “artisanal” craftspeople types. Ridgewood obv but now “arts” people are edging into Glendale and maspeth. I haven’t done like Bushwick open studios in a few years but with the nightlife at least it still feels pretty vibrant. There’s always plenty of stuff going on and shitty places to live even if it sucks. And I don’t know about the East village. Sure it’s been shit for years but go further downtown and you have Commend and Two Bridges or whatever.

I miss windsor terrace/Kensington very much…there was this amazing apartment I visited around there that amounted to a museum of sequential art…

see now you got me curious

who is this genius curator i wonder

mookie, I've used this guy for three things (including wills). He was free through my company so I don't know what his rates are like. But he is very accessible in chelsea, super quick responding to emails (you can do almost everything through phone calls and email), and was generally really easy to work with/pleasant. I am likely using him again this year.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrence-hanover-58937722/

the other thing about the village is nyu owns most of it and the parts nyu doesn’t own, nyu kids may disproportionately live, so the complaints largely seem like complaints about college kids more than anything else

(except when they become digressions about stalking and stealthily photographing and imagining murdering and violating them, which, I’m sorry, is fucking creepy)

tbf, entitled college kids are a blight upon the village. not so much they should be stalked/murdered but still.

entitled college kids are a blight upon the village earth

nyu owning most of the village is a very bad thing but i guess we can't undo that

not without seizing it anyway

^ this makes me wish the olsen twins still made movies.