Eli Manning: Hall of Fame?

(sorry, huge)

Kidding?

Yup. Nobody knows who was the GOAT NFL QB. It's impossible to say, but Peyton Manning was unquestionably excellent, as was Fran. The "run-of-the-mill Hall of Fame QB" was voted as among the best, most amazing QBs of his era. They all have a reason to be there.

that is an amazing photo to put on the cover of a magazine

how have I never heard of Joe Kapp before now

Dan you will love Joe Kapp

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-xpm-2011-11-28-chi-former-vikings-qb-kapp-punches-rival-at-luncheon-20111128-story.html

btw joe kapp was 32 years old in that photo

the nfl's roughest 32 year old grampa

not quite, here's Ray Nitschke at the age of 29 I believe

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Nitschke_packers.jpg

mike webster at 32: https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/mike-webster-of-the-pittsburgh-steelers-looks-on-from-the-bench-the-picture-id637027860?s=594x594

and here's Eli Manning at 36

https://i.imgur.com/QcTp7jl.jpg

football is a helluva drug

Joe Kapp I remember from the old style NFL films. Dude often threw some fugly passes for even then, of course by that era Tebow would have been efficient.

I'm happy Harold Carmichael finally got the nod for the hall. When he retired he was like #5 or something like that in all time receptions when he retired. He also got a pass a game for like 10 years back when they could literally mug you running out for a pass.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/rec_career_1984.htm

Tarkington was the all time leader in passing yards when he retired in '78 and held it up until '94 when Marino passed him.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_career_1994.htm

The old QB that I think might be on the bubble is Kenny Anderson, really the first 'west coast offense' qb as Walsh was the OC there before he went to the Niners. Anderson was very efficient, but he played for the Bengals in the 70s in same division as the Steel Curtain.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AndeKe00.htm

https://www.ebluejay.com/img/account/c/h/cheepseetz/1/3111941_m8d0wvii.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/79/dd/7a/79dd7a9264ccc603fd2a9355367909da--football-photos-sports-photos.jpg

Carmichael was in some ways the first really tall wide out, plus there are pictures where he is playing with baseball gloves with the fingertips cut out.

As for Eli, there is absolutely ZERO chance he does not make the Hall of FAME...can't have that speech where Peyton puts in his brother.

They can finally put in Clay Matthews Jr. on the same class and make it family weekend.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

yea I'm all for players who had significant careers but weren't necessarily ELITE or THE BEST for any particular period of time making it into the hall. makes it more interesting that way. in fact I'd almost argue for putting guys like Fitzpatrick in

Hall of Meh

i mention this whenever harold carmichael comes up -- which is surprisingly often? -- but cosell referred to him as 'the angular one', which is a+

You had to know there was some serious love of football passed between Howard and Greg. Greg Cosell is probably one of the few media guys that really does get the XOs of football like actual coach. I got the DVR set to record NFL matchup even though it is only played like once at 5am on Sunday.

"yea I'm all for players who had significant careers but weren't necessarily ELITE or THE BEST for any particular period of time making it into the hall. makes it more interesting that way. in fact I'd almost argue for putting guys like Fitzpatrick in"
― frogbs, Monday, January 27, 2020 7:08 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Fitzpatrick is like this generations Vinnie Testeverde. Vinnie had a couple years where he was on good clubs, where Fitz has been more on the middlin' side of the NFL.

The thing that changes everything is that they have made greatness about "THE RING". Pretty much any decent QB that wins a couple of Superbowls is already on the margins of being in the Hall of Fame and statistically in the pass happy era, there is just a bunch of guys that are decent at the position. THE ELITE is really average.

Can't wait for Jameis Winston to get in

I think they should put Fitzpatrick's press conference outfits in and leave him out

I like the idea of there being a wing for career backups who wound up doing crazy things, like Matt Flynn throwing 6 TDs in a game, Foles playing lights out for a month and winning a Super Bowl, or Fitz magically turning into Tom Brady every time his club is four games under .500. the fact that the HoF is just a neverending discussion about greatness and who is truly ELITE is boring

They should have a single Hatcat plaque with Doug Williams, Mark Rypien and Joe Theisman.

xpost your idea sounds like the Hall of Ehhhhh

xp how dare you leave out gus frerotte

the famous helmet he dented into the goalpost, here on display!

https://www.capitalgazette.com/resizer/b4vUfFRrXIUXgfJZFsZdV8QVHwU=/1200x900/top/www.trbimg.com/img-5a983386/turbine/bs-sp-ravens-ray-lewis-trent-dilfer-super-bowl-20180228

The Los Angeles Times later described Dilfer as a game manager quarterback for the Ravens that season: He "wasn't elite, but he didn't make costly mistakes, and was supported by a dominant defense."[5] Dilfer wasn't re-signed by the Ravens, making him the only quarterback to be let go after winning a Super Bowl.

"One of the biggest mistakes we made in the Ravens history was letting Trent Dilfer go." - Ray Lewis

See these things write themselves...

Those three guys won a Superbowl though. You could have Gus' helmet beside it.

You definitely would have a picture video of the butt fumble somewhere in there.

And you would definitely have a spread of SEE TONY ROMO, SEE TONY ROMO SAD pictures.