A very famous Danish comic had this journey. He grew up in a rough area, had a lot of great observational humour on both the rough parts of the country as well as condescending elites. Got very famous. Then his next show there's a bit that goes 'so I was on this yacht...' and another bit on what the deal was with bulk discounts, why not just pay for what you need? And then the next show was about how tax rates are two high and people are too envious of those who do well.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
"What is the deal with assistants who break their NDAs?"
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
What's bad about The Outline?
― JRN, Wednesday, January 22, 2020 7:43 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
poorly edited, full of bad takes, pretty much every bad web design trend employed at once. they publish decent stuff once in a while though
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link
this piece kinda sucks however, djp otm
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link
jack allison is very annoying, SNL is intolerable and must die, I will not be reading this but I hope everyone involved loses
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link
a lot of people on this thread have placed weird expectations on snl. It's fine. Some weeks are better than others. even some of the gilded periods were kind of iffy. I enjoy watching it on Sunday morning. I didn't read that article because I had thought the guy who wrote it had been the one engaged to Lena Dunham. I am wrong.
― Yerac, Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link
it's terrible and should be put out of its misery
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link
The Hartman-Carvey-Meyers era is p good. The Sandler-Spade-Farley era is awful, most of the 80s stuff is awful, the original cast has some very high bright spots and a lot of garbage. Peak was actually the Fey-Farrell era. Everything after has been diminishing returns, and the Trump episode was the point of no return.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link
I am trying to think of a show I hate watch. hmmm. I did watch a bunch of episodes of Say Yes to the Dress the other day Sometimes I want to poop all over the OA thread but I didn't watch it past the first season.
― Yerac, Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link
I haven't watched this show since they announced Trump would be on. I've seen clips and tweets and shit like that I guess.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link
Hartman-Carvey-Lovitz-Dunn-Hooks-Nealon-Miller-Jackson era was great. Myers came in a bit later but really added to it nicely. Sandler/Spade/Farley/etc was a decent crew but it started to be less of a great ensemble and more of an outlandish highlights reel in terms of the characters. Fey/Farrell/etc is ok. I think the ideas they came up with were more inspired than the execution a lot of the time. those two are fine but v overrated in SNL history. the original SNL troupe was great most of the time though some of the material falls flat. and Dennis Perrin....otm....about Jane Curtin upthread.
― omar little, Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link
(xpost to shakey) ^ This. As a life-long minor league SNL obsessive (even while acknowledging its plentiful flaws), it's still occasionally stunning to me how quickly and easily I walked away after Lorne pulled that shit.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link
Random bite-sized notes on other eras while we are unmoored from the present moment: I really like about 1/3 of the Doumanian cast (I rail every chance I get about Gail Matthius being robbed of the career she deserved due to being shackled to that doomed season), and Danitra Vance (RIP) was an MVP in Lorne's first season back while Robert Downey, Jr. shocked the hell out of me by being quite possibly the worst cast member in SNL history.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link
Danitra Vance was great, never got her due.
Downey was awful, but worse than Anthony Michael Hall?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link
good observation there, YMP
only if your exposure to comedy is watching rich people do Netflix specials. PEBCAK, not with "most comics".
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link
xpost Yes. Downey was a terrible comedic performer in that context and perpetually seemed like he just didn't want to be there.
― Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link
"I'm not a Michael Che booster or anything but I got about a third into that article and my overwhelming takeaway was "white man mad he can't say any old thing to black man and not get called on it""
he wasn't really saying anything to Che though. Che just jumped on him for criticizing the show.
― akm, Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link
that said I think Che is great on SNL, as is Jost.
che seems like a sad fuck tbh
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:37 (four years ago) link
he's better than jost but that's "best dressed man in albania" territory
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link
Yeah I think Che is clearly weird as hell and mocking people through Instagram stories filled with twitter screenshots would seem to be the dumbest way of engaging with criticism. On the other hand when I look at Jack Allison’s twitter he’s posting links to discussions of this drama on fucking livejournal.
― JoeStork, Friday, 24 January 2020 00:40 (four years ago) link
I think I dipped on twitter as this beef was starting, but Leslie hitting Che with the Dan Crenshaw zing is 😙👌
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 24 January 2020 13:40 (four years ago) link
On the other hand when I look at Jack Allison’s twitter he’s posting links to discussions of this drama on fucking livejournal.
lol
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link
imo reflects even worse on Che that this is his nemesis
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link
lol I can get behind that
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:03 (four years ago) link
OK this is one of the best monologues in a while
― Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 26 January 2020 07:45 (four years ago) link
actually a decent episode overall
― Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 26 January 2020 08:55 (four years ago) link
Lorne all in for Bloomberg?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 January 2020 08:58 (four years ago) link
what gives you that idea?
this was probably the best episode of the season, even Lovitz was good as Dershowitz.
― akm, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 03:21 (four years ago) link
I promise Nora that her re-education camp will have an improv class. https://t.co/edxzOJFH98— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) February 6, 2020
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link
Lorne is totally not a 1% shit
well this is totally horrific https://t.co/K8hksyjLpN— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) February 9, 2020
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 February 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link
that cold open was strong, sharp writing, what's going on
― otm into winter (rip van wanko), Sunday, 9 February 2020 15:36 (four years ago) link
it's just lazy, so lazy all the time
how about *not* recreating a debate?
"I'm George Stephanopolous" HAHAHAHA
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link
oh look they have wigs and voices
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link
it's gotta be accessible and light-hearted. what do you want?
― otm into winter (rip van wanko), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link
oh does it
that's what made it a landmark in '75, sure
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link
ayway accessible+lighthearted ≠ calcified
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
Morbius and Dennis Perrin: wishing it was still 1975 since...well...
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 9 February 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
Is Bernie the most popular Dem candidate on 4chan? Seems like his demo, tbh.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link
watching chevy as ford from season 1. yeah, it's better. there's just a feeling that's so palpable that the performer and the audience are one, there's no separation or condescension. that's the main thing that has been lost (for the most part)
― otm into winter (rip van wanko), Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link
xp it's yang
― majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link
According to the 1 minute of “research” I’ve just done it seems everyone on 4chan is a Jewish hating Nazi so it’s inconceivable Sanders could have support there. I guess 4chan is different than what I thought it was.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link
it's ron/rand paul but they're not running
― otm into winter (rip van wanko), Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link
Actual power rankings 1. Hitler2. Trump 3. Yang https://t.co/MSPzQmYssf— Krispy Scream (@mitchysuch) February 9, 2020
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link
im against "accessible and light-hearted" in political sketches
also against unperson
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link
Watched the debate skitThis show is fucking embarrassing
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 February 2020 10:32 (four years ago) link
debate skit was mostly dumb but rest of the episode was great.
― akm, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link
at present this show has as much satirical teeth as idk a mildly amusing super bowl ad or Ellen's Oscar group selfie, and it's as eager to please the norms as both.
― omar little, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link
opinion: shit is so dire irl that this piffle serves as a needed tonic
― otm into winter (rip van wanko), Monday, 10 February 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link
one point of comparison between now and "the old days": back when Reagan was president, there was that sketch w/Hartman playing Ronnie as a secret geopolitical evil genius whose doddering persona was just a front for his agenda, which gave it more of an edge bc it served to highlight the reality better (he was both doddering and yet executing an agenda). w/Trump it would have more teeth to play him completely differently from the amped-up sputtering manbaby Alec Baldwin portrays (i recognize the reality yes) and go in another more creative direction. maybe not a facsimile of the Reagan evil genius thing but something that would be at least a little more interesting, comedically speaking. and be more insidiously accurate. the Baldwin thing is just embarrassing but then again i also find most of the present cast and the celebrity ringers who are basically acting as secondary cast members to be a little embarrassing too.
― omar little, Monday, 10 February 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link