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Dereliction? In our senators?

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link

help them out by muting them

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 January 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

why isn't the sergeant-at-arms cuffing those dopes? still on Zoloft?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

There are less than 10 Republican Senators that may possibly be swayed on basic rules questions about witnesses and evidence, and probably far fewer on actual removal. Not sure that the fuss over a bunch of Senators who clearly don't give a crap makes sense.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link

21 Senators flouting the rules, which forbid them leaving the room or talking, with penalties up to imprisonment (lols yea right). it's a giant "fuck you" to Schiff and the trial and basically saying "this is a sham trial, we don't have to obey the rules".

your Law and Order party, folks. Dems need to use this in their campaigns as well. keep pointing out how often the Law and Order party flouts the law as it doesn't apply to them.

i've seen no good people (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link

21 Senators: A GOP-centric 21 Pilots tribute band.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link

"Heathens' would make sense

i've seen no good people (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

The fact that a lot of these Senators are being exposed to the House's case for the first time is the more wtf aspect of this for me.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link

tbh i've yet to come to terms with the fact that Donald fucking Trump is the president of these united states

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link

Would be curious to know what % of those 21 senators are staunch pro-lifers who have at some point coerced someone they impregnated into getting an abortion.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link

would safely put the over/under at 75%

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link

the Senators walking out is infuriating, I thought this was the party of LAW AND ORDER & DO YOUR JOB

frogbs, Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

The fact that a lot of these Senators are being exposed to the House's case for the first time is the more wtf aspect of this for me.

All members of Congress have only so many hours in a day and must prioritize very strictly. For example dialing for dollars takes up 2-4 hours a day. Then there are the delegations of business owners to meet, lobbyists to strategize with, staff meetings, publicity-seeking events, and numberless cocktail parties to attend. Who has time for reading transcripts or understanding the details of the president's venal political maneuvers?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

speaking as a former US Senator, i can say with confidence that it is pretty easy to assign some go-getter underling to pay attention to the whole "the president is an active crook" thing and have them brief you on the most important items every few weeks

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link

frankly, at this point i am very impressed whenever one of the house reps or senators displays any sort of knowledge for any of the issues on hand, on anything. i assume that they are constantly synthesizing information from briefings from all their staff, who are the people who actually know things. in general, the politician's job (imo) is to try not to be a tremendous dick, to listen to subject matter experts, to select qualified people to serve as subject matter experts/staff, and offer some version of a coherent viewpoint when chuck fucking todd's chipmunk face looks in your direction

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 January 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

Really, though, what incentive would they even have had to engage to that extent, assuming the party line (explicitly-stated or no) has long been that this would be a show trial with no action on the part of the senate?

It may be interesting to see if the trial moves the needle at all with any of their constituents and that winds up prompting them to take things a little more seriously. Although the trial will likely be too short and their constituents too unfocused for any potential threat to their reelection to develop in time.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link

xpost

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link

Come ON, folks; they are allowed to go to the bathroom.

Presumably where "go to the bathroom" means an hour of playing Angry Birds, an hour being interviewed by Fox, and an hour of drunkenly groping a dewy intern or two.

Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link

Leave us be charitable and assume that they're just locked in a protracted battle with their rapidly-aging bowels.

Dr. Teeth and the Women (Old Lunch), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link

and that at the time the reporter did the headcount, 21 republicans were battling their decrepit bowels while only 2 democrats were.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:32 (four years ago) link

Per CNN, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) spent more time out of his seat than in it Wednesday night. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) also left for stretches, while Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) could be seen using his iPhone in the Democratic cloakroom (electronics are banned from the chamber during the trial).

Meanwhile, some of those who may have the most to lose by being sequestered stayed securely in place for the duration on Wednesday. According to CNN, Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), both running for President, stayed in the chamber for the entirety of the proceedings. They were reportedly joined by Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Susan Collins (R-ME), two of the most scrutinized lawmakers due to their past willingness to vote with Democrats.

...Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) told CNN that senators are struggling to understand why they have to sit there in the first place, accusing Democrats of presenting the “same arguments over and over and over again.”

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

Really, though, what incentive would they even have had to engage to that extent, assuming the party line (explicitly-stated or no) has long been that this would be a show trial with no action on the part of the senate?

maybe I'm being naïve here but I think this is something that really *has* changed in the Trump era, 10 years ago they'd at least pretend to care

frogbs, Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link

senators are struggling to understand why they have to sit there in the first place

Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) conclusively demonstrates that he is unfit to sit on any jury anywhere for any purpose. But I bet he could wax on at length about the need for naturalized US citizens to demonstrate a deep knowledge of and commitment to their civic duty.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

accusing Democrats of presenting the “same arguments over and over and over again.”

unlike the president, who famously referred to his phone call as perfect only once, suggested that we read the transcript only once.

his impressive restraint in suggesting that we "lock her up" *precisely once* was and is a model of statesmanlike oratorical concision

Okay, you're an ambulance (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 January 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link

remember that time he talked about building a wall?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link

I don't think that was widely publicized

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 23 January 2020 19:20 (four years ago) link

Addressing Trump’s assertion that a president must violate a statute to be impeached, Nadler played a clip of Graham from when he was a House manager in the Clinton impeachment.

“What’s a high crime?” Graham said. “How about if an important person hurts somebody of low means? It’s not very scholarly. But I think it’s the truth. I think that’s what they meant by high crime. It doesn’t even have to be a crime. It’s just when you start using your office and you’re acting in a way that hurts people. You’ve committed a high crime.”

Graham had exited the chamber by the time the clip of his remarks was being played.

lindsey sure does have to use the restroom a lot, weird

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 January 2020 20:47 (four years ago) link

Santorum is a harsh mistress.

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 23 January 2020 20:59 (four years ago) link

the “same arguments over and over and over again.”

about toilets and dishwashers

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 January 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link

i love that schiff is literally reading the transcript, as the entire trumposphere has been begging for months, and annotating it with his thoughts

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 January 2020 03:22 (four years ago) link

schiff doing a fantastic job

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 January 2020 03:29 (four years ago) link

it's his "Have You No Sense of Decency?" argument

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 January 2020 03:32 (four years ago) link

Schiff's exceeded my expectations.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 January 2020 03:33 (four years ago) link

that was very academy award-nominated last 10 minutes of the legal drama monologue, i loved it

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 January 2020 03:34 (four years ago) link

That was powerful. If that’s all we’re gonna get out of this, the effort was worthwhile.

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 24 January 2020 03:35 (four years ago) link

After Wednesday’s presentation, Sen. Lindsey Graham—one of Trump’s fiercest advocates in the Senate and a House manager in the last impeachment trial, of Bill Clinton—went up to Schiff to applaud him for a job well done. “He’s well spoken, he did a good job of creating a tapestry, taking bits and pieces of evidence and emails and giving a rhetorical flourish, making an email come alive, sometimes effectively, sometimes a little over the top,” Graham told reporters on Thursday morning. “But quite frankly I think they did a good job of taking bits and pieces of the evidence and creating a quilt out of it.”

symsymsym, Friday, 24 January 2020 03:53 (four years ago) link

Nice compliment there from Sen. Graham. But he'll still vote the party line to stonewall, cover up, and acquit. I ardently hope that all these yahoos will pay a heavy price at their next election, however unlikely that outcome may seem atm.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 24 January 2020 04:32 (four years ago) link

DC’s WTOP coverage sure wants to try and make this seem like it COULD GO EITHER WAY

El Tomboto, Friday, 24 January 2020 05:13 (four years ago) link

10 or 11 plane crashes and maybe

... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 January 2020 05:15 (four years ago) link

at the last minute Ronald Reagan's ghost arrives in the Senate chamber and moans, "Who the hell is Donald Trump?"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 24 January 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link

i have news via talking points memo!
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/report-trump-recorded-telling-parnas-and-fruman-to-take-her-out-about-yovanovitch

President Trump was recorded telling two buddies of Rudy Giuliani’s that he wanted Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch fired in April 2018, ABC reports.

“Take her out!” Trump reportedly said on the recording to Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, after being told that the career foreign service officer was “badmouthing” him in Kyiv.

Fruman reportedly made the recording, which occurred at a small April 30, 2018 dinner at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.

Todd Blanche, an attorney for Fruman, did not immediately return a request for comment.

“Get rid of her!” a voice that appears to be Trump’s reportedly said on the recording. “Get her out tomorrow. I don’t care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. Okay? Do it.”

Parnas reportedly told Trump on the recording that “the biggest problem there, I think where we need to start is we gotta get rid of the ambassador. She’s still left over from the Clinton administration.”

“She’s basically walking around telling everybody ‘Wait, he’s gonna get impeached, just wait,” Parnas reportedly added.

but don't worry, there's an explanation


Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) dismissed the recording as a reflection of how New Yorkers talk. “Totally different style,” Sen. Johnson said.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

thought he didn't know Parnas

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link

a reflection of how New Yorkers talk

I don't see Trump saying "standing on line" there

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:50 (four years ago) link

Ron Johnson (R-WI) is an expert on the nyc dialect, though

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link

fuhgeddaboutit

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link

I say don't you know
You say you don't know
I say, take her out!

jaymc, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link

eyyyyy, i'm presidentin heah

mookieproof, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link

*opens the white house window to address loud press corps*

"SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

*slams window shut*

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

TS: "locker room talk" vs "new york talk"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:20 (four years ago) link


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