Prince Albert Pujols, he reigneth

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only 2 years and $48M left on the contract

https://i.imgur.com/otHLPTe.png

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 23 January 2020 00:10 (eight months ago) link

According to my math, he'll earn $29M for the 2020 season.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 23 January 2020 01:13 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/zips-time-warp-albert-pujols/


Name G PA WAR
Chuck Klein 196 525 -1.6
Jim Bottomley 312 1146 -1.2
Larry Doby 39 124 -1.0
Willie Keeler 316 1288 -0.8
King Kelly 20 73 -0.5
Roberto Alomar 196 788 -0.4
Lloyd Waner 235 592 -0.4
George Kelly 64 226 -0.3
Bill Mazeroski 34 72 -0.3
Albert Pujols 731 3093 -0.2
Joe Tinker 7 12 -0.1
Ray Schalk 7 3 0.0
Jim Rice 191 770 0.0
Hughie Jennings 4 9 0.0

Thirteen Hall of Fame hitters played replacement-level ball or worse starting at age 35. Pujols stands out for the amount of ineffective baseball we’ve seen from him, with the rest of the players on the list retiring either voluntarily or non-voluntarily when it was clear they could no longer contribute in the majors. With guaranteed money and no apparent motivation on either side for a buyout that would lead to a graceful retirement, this has led to an unfortunate secondary result in which we’ve seen Pujols at his worst longer than any other great hitter.

ouch. but then szymborski goes on to ask the tough questions, like, what if pujols had not sucked so badly with the angels? turns out, that would have been pretty awesome!

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 September 2020 23:36 (three weeks ago) link

oops [code] mess-up there on the column headers, my bad

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 September 2020 23:36 (three weeks ago) link

on a rate basis, though, damn Larry Doby age 35+ was fucking awful!

Karl Malone, Friday, 4 September 2020 23:38 (three weeks ago) link

According to my math, he'll earn $29M for the 2020 season.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, January 22, 2020 5:13 PM (seven months ago)

...and $30M for 2021.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 5 September 2020 01:12 (three weeks ago) link

but just think of that thrilling chase for the RBI record!!!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 September 2020 01:18 (three weeks ago) link

lol, i was joking about that, but that would be a true nightmare scenario for angels fans - an extra incentive to give pujols as many RBI opportunities as possible

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 September 2020 01:19 (three weeks ago) link

am i right in thinking he was never the same after developing plantar fasciitis?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 5 September 2020 06:57 (three weeks ago) link

Surprised Ichiro isn't on that list.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:27 (three weeks ago) link

If you use bWAR, Ichiro is -0.5 for his last 449 games/1071 PA (-1.3 if you limit it to offense).

clemenza, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:34 (three weeks ago) link

I think Fangraphs missed him--using their numbers, Ichiro is -0.1 for the same time frame, which would put him with Joe Tinker.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:38 (three weeks ago) link

oh, i think that list was comparing pujols to hall of famers, only (although ichiro is obv a hall of famer)

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:41 (three weeks ago) link

which is stiff competition, of course, but i think they were just trying to make the point that out of elite players, pujols has been uniquely awful in his later years

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:42 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah, I missed that. Reserve a spot for Ichiro, and Cabrera too.

clemenza, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:43 (three weeks ago) link

honestly, selfishly, as a cardinals fan, i have to admit that there is something cathartic and comforting about being able to compartmentalize his career to just his years in STL. virtually all of his good times were there. all of them, i think? (unless you count reaching big counting stat milestones like 500 HR etc)

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:43 (three weeks ago) link

am i right in thinking he was never the same after developing plantar fasciitis?

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand)

yeah, it was already apparent in the last parts of 2010 and especially in 2011. he was noticeably slower in 2011, obviously playing through something. he's been playing through it ever since, i think

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:47 (three weeks ago) link

Biggio crossed my mind--I remember him hanging on for what seemed like forever in pursuit of 3,000 hits--but he was actually only terrible his final season, age 41; he was just barely above replacement at 40, and his age-season was pretty decent (26 HR).

clemenza, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:47 (three weeks ago) link

"his age-39 season"

clemenza, Saturday, 5 September 2020 17:48 (three weeks ago) link

as bad as pujols has been, he's still more or less replacement level. i mean you'd like to get more out of $30m or whatever, but he's still playable. which is more than you can say for justin upton, whom they still have two more years of.

i'm curious how rendon will fare. he's been great this mini-season, but . . .

mookieproof, Saturday, 5 September 2020 18:00 (three weeks ago) link

LUKEWARM TAKE: Pujols' decline was simply related to the increase in testing.

From Muscle & Fitness (May 2007):

https://www.muscleandfitness.com/athletes-celebrities/news/swing-king/

At 6'3" and 240 pounds, Albert looks more like a football strong safety than a first baseman. Sporting a sleeveless T and shorts for his shoot with M&F, he speaks on his weight training as knowledgeably as he might on hitting. But like many ballplayers, he was initially reluctant to subscribe completely to a regular weight-training program, fearing that he might get too tight or that his swing might suffer. "I grew up in the Dominican [Republic], but I never lifted weights there," he says. "I didn't do anything crazy until I started working with Chris Mihlfeld in 1998, when I was 18."

Mihlfeld, now Albert's full-time personal trainer (and training partner), remembers a young player with more potential than presence. "He was around 205 pounds, long, lanky, but a little soft around the middle with some baby fat," says Mihlfeld, who coached Albert for a short time at Maple Woods Community College in Kansas City, Missouri. "He had good natural strength in his hands and forearms, but he didn't have any weight-training experience at all." That changed in 1999 when Albert was signed in the free-agent draft and contacted Mihlfeld to help him get stronger for The Show. "We took small steps," Mihlfeld says. "He wasn't very strong with the weights at first, but in the last three years, we've really started to go heavy. In the beginning, he was doing dumbbell bench presses with 35s and 40s. Now, he's throwing around 100s like cupcakes."

Chris Mihlfeld was outed by Deadspin* as one of the redacted names when Jason Grimsley got busted for an impressive regime of HGH/Steroid cocktails. Mihlfeld had been fired from his position of Strength & Conditioning Coach by the KC Royals shortly after Novitsky's investigation:
https://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/sports/pitcher-spills-steroid-speed-secrets

*https://deadspin.com/so-weve-got-some-affidavit-names-179400

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 5 September 2020 18:17 (three weeks ago) link

which is the more controversial take, this ^ or the age one

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Saturday, 5 September 2020 18:45 (three weeks ago) link


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