Hillary Clinton: Classic or Dud?

yeah Mordy that was a joke this person has ben a dud my entire life

Hillz has demonstrated a penchant for untoward public pissiness which is recognizably human but perhaps nagl for a distinguished statesperson (or rather was nagl before we elected President Diarrhea Ape). She was kind of a turd to Obama during the '08 primaries, lest anyone forget.

just said she was staying in the race in case of an assassination

oldie but a goodie, that one

also, not a muslim "as far as I know"

HRC knows she will always be branded as the candidate who lost to Donald Trump and the depth of her bitterness at this fact knows no bounds. She obv blames Bernie in part for her loss because Bernie had the temerity to expose her weak left flank, interrupt her coronation, and alter the smooth course to the White House that she imagines would have been hers had he not run. She will die a haunted woman.

― A is for (Aimless),

Congrats – you made me feel sorry for her!

now lock thread

Hillary reduced to being one of those Twitter users who tells everyone they went to high school with (famous person) and everyone thought they were lame

Some viewers have to watch the film two or three times before they're able to see Tracy Flick as something of a tragic figure even in spite of her success.

When Hillary dies, they're going to uncover a vast basement playroom in her house with a replica oval office overlooking a lego national mall.

as alfred reminded me the other day, tragic figures understand

When she first started to make noise about running in 2016, I was shook. I didn't know much about her, to be honest. Mostly just that she was kinda hawkish and centrist and that the right-wing media had just been grinding on her for decades. It was the right-wing media attention that worried me the most. I spent so much time in 2016 and beyond trying to rationalize her, both to myself and other people, as "a dreamer who had to compromise her ideals to grab a seat at the table in the smoke-filled back rooms of Washington's patriarchy". I'm not saying this in response to her most recent idiocy. Just want to unburden myself completely of that idea and move on.

Dud

Dude

as was the case in 2016, the coolest thing about her is that she's a beloved boss, which is still remarkable to me bc no one likes bosses. unfortunately most of her public persona seems rooted in insecurity and miscalculation

however i mostly blame hulu for this mess bc who needed this documentary???

she's promoting it, so obv it's an unflinching warts-and-all look at her legacy

she is terrible and her defenders are worse

I'll ask the millions of women and people of color who voted for her enthusiastically to apologize to you.

to clarify, i meant the ppl who reliably find a way to excuse everything she says in 2020

Excusing her in 2020 is as irrelevant as condemning her.

I really don't give a rat's ass about what Hillary Clinton has to say about most things these days and I really wish to God others felt the same way.

rt

stays getting those page views

Reading this thread and the response of the smarter commenters at Lawyers Guns & Money is uh a study in contrasts: support for Clinton by my estimate commands a 3-1 lead, not least because the women are tired of Bernie's fans, his sense of entitlement as a male heart attack victim in his late seventies, and Sanders' taking the '16 primary battle to the convention.

This suggests that the two people whom I never want to hear about again after November '20 are Donald J. Trump and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

taking the '16 primary battle to the convention

like every other runnerup in modern history

the media care what HRC has to say

that makes it a factor

if her agenda bleeds, it ledes

wow those commenters put a lot of stock in being a "real democrat"

like every other runnerup in modern history

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius)

Clinton withdrew in June '08 iirc

why are they smarter?

When she first started to make noise about running in 2016, I was shook. I didn't know much about her, to be honest.

good thing that didnt stop you from forming an expert opinion

ok every other runnerup who actually believed in anything

why are they smarter?

― ☮️ (peace, man)

They have access to books, can think critically, and like early Neil Young.

When HRC says 'no one liked him or wanted to work with him', you have to place that against the fact that she's only talking about the US Senate and remember who occupies that body, how they vote and what they endorse. It's a club full of wealthy white men, drenched in privilege. HRC was thrilled to belong to that club, accepts its own flattering estimate of itself, and includes herself in that estimate. Sanders doesn't fit that mold and refuses to pretend he does.

But the philosophical differences between Bernie and HRC can be seen most starkly against the backdrop of Iraq, Israel, Syria, and Libya.

the response of the smarter commenters at Lawyers Guns & Money is uh a study in contrasts

Karen • 7 hours ago

You know what? She’s earned the right to dismiss Sanders. She’s not running for office and Sanders’ failure to be a Democrat clearly was a significant reason she lost. I am sick to death of women being to told to suck up and do the hard part of forgiving. If she hates Bernie Sanders, he’s bloody well earned it.

And why is there still ZERO evidence of Sanders condemning his woman-haters? I’ll stop hating the shouty old asshole when he does some emotional labor and asks Hillary Clinton for forgiveness.

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Many people have worked with him even in that context: Mike Lee, Ro Khanna, Cory Booker

xp

not sure i like america that much anymore

this is all really stupid

welcome not just to politics but adulthood

love to hear Karen's opinion of AOC

naaaah, she can go die in a fire

Sanders is no more responsible for shitposters than Buttigieg was for those dance moves a couple months back

I am pretty sure Buttigieg personally choreographed that shit tho

It was never disproven.

love to hear Karen's opinion of AOC

she'd say AOC was a Democrat, young, and a woman.

Sanders is no more responsible for shitposters than Buttigieg was for those dance moves a couple months back

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), T

If Sanders were a woman she wouldn't attract the shitposters.

Tulsi would like a word.

And clearly you missed the greatest hits of the KHive.

haha I haven't yet had an experience with a Gabbardized human being, in life or online.

A blessing.

Hilary you a loser baby

Hillary Clinton absolutely destroyed Bernie Sanders in her Howard Stern interview
Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large