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― pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:51 (four years ago) link
I'd subscribe to your YT channel fwiw.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link
Would need to think of an original and interesting hook
Fantano, for all his faults, is regarded ecstatically by bands and artists he promotes - obviously they know it's a ticket to publicity but I think they regard him a little differently than we do. I guess ilx is full of salty current and former critics ;)
― opden gnash (imago), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
well that seems about right that he's respected by bands and artists for paraphrasing their one-sheets
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
i'm neither a current nor former critic and i still think he's a witless cunt
― the Swedish taboo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:14 (four years ago) link
Does anybody know if a particular Fantano review really blew him up? Or was it steady growth?I first became aware of him around 2010/2011 when he was posting links to his videos as reviews on RYM.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
it's a real shame the fantano exposee article was such a hack job as there was some very concerning stuff which was never addressed. I think he's done an effective job of changing the subject and moving on, having an army of fans must help of course. also he seems to post a lot more positive reviews now and not many takedowns, guess this is probably a smart business move too.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
fantano is big because people want facile, digestible music reviews from someone who has a similar taste to theirs (there are so many fantanos in the world) and because he got in early - started on youtube in the 00s - and is conscientious and dependably pushes out content.
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link
having an army of fans must help of course
Look what it did for Pewdiepie. Or, God forbid, Logan Paul.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link
i first became aware of him in 2009 because he was one of the first search results for a free jazz record i was obsessed with at the time, throat by little women. imo his initial bump was just because he reviewed so many records
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
I guess his continued success is also a function of most listeners needing no more than one music critic.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link
btw a negative point for Spectrum Pulse: having dedicated time to the new Weyes Blood album, he only gave it 6/10, which demonstrates suspect hearing functionality. But as I say, good writer
― opden gnash (imago), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link
I mean he's also filling a void that traditional journalism does not serve since there's a particular demo of ppl who find the idea of a rubber-faced man talking at them about King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizzard for 12 minutes appealing, and it can probably be traced to a lot of the same demo that made Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson popular.
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link
As well as the rise of ASMR and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVEdQJ7qtJw
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link
you are correct but damn you for making me see that
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link
That's not even the most upsetting link Whiney has posted itt (see https://youtu.be/LkqsexgTXYg?t=97).
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link
i will not see!
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:50 (four years ago) link
I will make you see! Give in to your inner masochist.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:50 (four years ago) link
i'll save you some time:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk8LoHqHkGI
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W2xrjMa_j8
― McClinticSphere, Thursday, 7 May 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link
feel like i know many dudes like this dude
― budo jeru, Thursday, 7 May 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link
I've learned fairly recently that Todd in the Shadows credits the All Music Guide -- and among others both myself and Stephen Thomas Erlewine by name -- with helping him get more interested in music in general as a teenager in the early 2000s. Which was kinda cool to learn, I admit! He's been a good follow on Twitter.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 May 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link
Todd in the Shadows is excellent and has been for many years.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 7 May 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link
yeah, I give him credit for being a lot more plugged into the music writing world than a lot of similar youtubers
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 7 May 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
(which sounds super pompous, maybe a better way of putting it is, he seems to give a shit)
'excellent' might be pushing it, unless he's leveled up to a large degree since i last saw some of his videos
― dyl, Friday, 8 May 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link
He's better than Fantano that's for sure
― McClinticSphere, Friday, 8 May 2020 03:20 (three years ago) link
https://twitter.com/theneedledrop
fantano is having a sincerely excellent 2020, both in terms of the artists he (and of major publications, only he) is boosting, and in terms of his response to what is happening in the US right now
― imago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:32 (three years ago) link
great, be sure to let me know when he apologises for the video where he appears with alt-right shitheads and tells "sjws" to "drink bleach"
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:36 (three years ago) link
lol Fantan-no
― hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:38 (three years ago) link
the tone of his entire feed seems a p conclusive walkback from that. idk if there was an apology. people can change? idk
― imago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:41 (three years ago) link
yeah, that's not nearly enough.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link
i wish he was dead
― 1312 (Left), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:46 (three years ago) link
He doesn't exist in my world, but if he's come around, that's a start. Hard to be enthusiastic about an internet nerd who built his empire on alt-right ppl changing his tune, but surely it's better that this is his response instead of amplifying the other side (which a couple of years ago he probably would).
People can change. No it's not enough. But I do not wish he was dead I suppose.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 10:54 (three years ago) link
change and improvement are always to be celebrated, and consistent new behaviour means more than apologies
― massage angry pixels (sic), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link
fuck this particular clown-ass doofus obv, going from "alt-right burner account" to "performative wokeness" casts doubt on his sincerity, but y'know, general principles
― massage angry pixels (sic), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link
consistent good new behaviour is fine, but unless he addresses the stuff he made before, we should all be deeply suspicious of his motives. the fact that he has not already apologised and explained his behaviour aside from what amounts to "it was just shitposting, u mad bro?" is very telling about the level of privilege he has been given.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:10 (three years ago) link
look, among all the woke stuff, he liked this tweet just yesterday
Ezra Marcus wrote an expansive reported story on cult leader Larry Ray for NY Mag. His resume includes a sloppily reported story about @theneedledrop for the Fader filled w/ weird extrapolations/inferences w/o any basis. It got scrubbed from the publication because Anthony sued. pic.twitter.com/SVPtYjKHKI— safy (@SafyHallanFarah) June 2, 2020
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:12 (three years ago) link
maybe we should ignore him and just listen to the new music he's been boosting. never too early in the morning for horrorcore, especially when it captures the moment so precisely
― imago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link
tbf my continued policy of ignoring this wasteman is unchanged by any political pose he might assume for money
― hip posts without flaggadocio (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link
^^^
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 12:51 (three years ago) link
I find Fanta o abhorrent to watch but good on him if he's improving as a person, most "personalities" don't
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
good on anybody and everybody for working to improve as people but what little i've seen of this guy's criticism suggests it's bloviated garbage so i care about him around as much as i would any youtube "celebrity" which is to say not much
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
yeah I want to stress I don't watch his videos but the artists he boosts often seem really grateful to him and that's nice. it shouldn't have to be this way - very 'patron of the arts' - but he gives props to people who need them and he has been extremely emphatic and unambiguous on the issue of the current riots (and has constantly retweeted those with the most important voices)
this isn't to say that I wuvs melon - his videos are v not my thing and I find his centrality to the rym discourse almost as irksome's as pitchfork's is or was here - but it feels nice to say that someone with as large an audience as him is speaking up for the oppressed
― imago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
Fuck a Fanta, but ILX's thinly-veiled Calvinism never ceases to amaze me.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link
It's entirely possible he's just canny enough to know that there's just no real place for RW views in american music criticism, but even then it's a good sign
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link
Is it a good sign? That white guys can get away with being involved in the alt-right and cynically move on and pretend it never happened, but a black woman does the same to a much lesser extent and she's roundly cancelled?
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
i have not cancelled doja cat, even if i do not like her music, and you'd be a fool to cancel her over this (i generally dislike 'cancelling' anyway unless they're an unambiguous shithead punching down)
― imago, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link
If every day isn't a struggle session for you, you're doing it wrong.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 3 June 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link
xp not blaming you or anyone on here for that matter, just that this is what makes me sick about fantano.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link