OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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"this smacks of gender!" I holler as I upend the table and dump all my compact discs on the floor

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 16:48 (four months ago) link

But the biggest Greekbro of all is Oliveros herself:

Her many years of involvement in new music have given her an informed and open-minded perspective. Although her interests have changed, she continues to write music for other performers, such as a piece for violinist Malcolm Goldstein, and her interest in pure electronic music didn't end in the 60s either - she contributed to a computer music compilation in 1990. She has praise for artists who seem at first very different, such as Iannis Xenakis (although perhaps with Oliveros's interest in space and Xenakis's interest in architecture, the difference isn't all it seems).

"There is tremendous expansion in the so called new music scene. What used to be a village is now a metropolis. It's complex and asymmetrical. I like it. You never know where you will find a gem or in what style this gem will manifest."

http://media.hyperreal.org/zines/est/intervs/oliveros.html

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 16:52 (four months ago) link

there are plenty of Oliveros-influenced bros too

sarahell, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 16:53 (four months ago) link

Yeah, I've certainly met more Oliveros bros -- or, if you will, Oliverbros -- than Xenakis bros.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 16:56 (four months ago) link

the part of the article where he writes about the aesthetics and processes and how the ascribed masculinity is a bit arbitrary in that Xenakis' process is super nerdy -- i feel like that's kinda interesting

sarahell, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:02 (four months ago) link

There's some worthwhile insight in that piece, for sure, it's just asphyxiated by the binary premise.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:06 (four months ago) link

idk i can't really excuse this

Yet whereas Xenakis sought to apply complex formulas to emulate the stochastic rumblings of the natural world (human agency be damned), Oliveros sought similar affects from an opposite angle. To tap into these ecological systems, she privileged the very intuition, vulnerability, and receptivity to our surroundings that Xenakis's superfans find so mewling and weak.

budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:11 (four months ago) link

it's just so icky and like "she was a woman and down with nature and her feelings"

budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:12 (four months ago) link

I thought das Ewig-Weibliche was peak feminism?

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:16 (four months ago) link

accordions are not natural

j., Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:19 (four months ago) link

But… it breathes!

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 17:21 (four months ago) link

Lol

Montegays and Capulez (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 18:44 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://aeon.co/ideas/why-are-pop-songs-getting-sadder-than-they-used-to-be

ok, i can't be arsed to read this, i don't care, it's probably terrible, but choosing to illustrate your "pop music used to be so much happier" argument with a picture of ABBA is so fucken stupid that i think we can save ourselves the time and effort

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 15 February 2020 12:45 (three months ago) link

bet this person actually thinks "Happy Together" is a song about a couple being happy together

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:15 (three months ago) link

^I skimmed it, and that seems to be exactly how their analysis works!

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:20 (three months ago) link

Look buddy I've seen lots of TV ads for soda, bubblegum and adult diapers and that's definitely what that song means

Evan, Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:21 (three months ago) link

analysing lyrics alone to judge the emotional content of music is maybe the stupidest fucking thing i’ve ever heard in my life

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:30 (three months ago) link

Wait so what is Happy Together actually about

Οὖτις, Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:31 (three months ago) link

a sad lonely dude imagining being together with someone who either doesn't know he exists or does and doesn't gaf about him

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:36 (three months ago) link

i mean the first word is 'imagine'

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:36 (three months ago) link

It’s the A-prime example of Songs where the singer/protagonist comes off as a serious dick without meaning to

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:48 (three months ago) link

Sentiment analysis is often nonsense

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:57 (three months ago) link

not to mention pop isn't any happier or more morose than it's ever been.

it's not like the charts are being topped by MC D-Pressed with hit single "I Ain't Shit"

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 February 2020 15:59 (three months ago) link

How do you quantify the emotional tenor of having your horses in the back, horse tack is attached?

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:06 (three months ago) link

You could argue that Post Malone’s career is depressing but I doubt it would be because of his lyrics

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Saturday, 15 February 2020 16:11 (three months ago) link

I’m not going to read the article but it’s pretty unassailable knowledge that in the last 3+ years of rap have been incredibly depressive and pop quickly followed suit

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:29 (three months ago) link

not to mention pop isn't any happier or more morose than it's ever been.

it's not like the charts are being topped by MC D-Pressed with hit single "I Ain't Shit"


Are you aware of XXXTentacion?

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:31 (three months ago) link

Their analysis stops in 2015.

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:32 (three months ago) link

Also, they seem to be just looking at instances of words like “happy” vs. “sad,” and major vs. minor key. Someone actually paying attn to pop trends could probably write a thing about recent depressing rap lyrics, but this ain’t it.

You have seen the heavy groups (morrisp), Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:36 (three months ago) link

imo all “scientific” studies of pop music are bad because they’re all pretty much rooted in confirmation bias

maura, Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:40 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

i don't think this fits the thread perfectly but we need to talk about this

https://www.businessinsider.com/electric-guest-tour-north-america-mercedes-benz-sprinter-van-2020-3

How an LA band completed a tour around North America in a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter van

...

This means the duo — and the two other musicians who play with them while on tour — need to share the three-passenger row Sprinter while on the road.

While they're on the road, Taccone takes the back passenger row while Compton gets the middle. The two additional touring members get the front row directly behind the driver and passenger seats.

global tetrahedron, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:41 (two months ago) link

how in the hell is that not marked as sponsored content

absolute idiot liar uneducated person (mh), Monday, 23 March 2020 17:45 (two months ago) link

"SEE ALSO: This $150,000 off-roading camper van built on a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter can stay off the grid for 7 days"

morrisp, Monday, 23 March 2020 18:18 (two months ago) link

Business Insider, posting an ad thinly-disguised as an article? What is this world coming to?

DJP, Monday, 23 March 2020 18:56 (two months ago) link

the band has a member of lonely island

maura, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:22 (two months ago) link

but what kind of IPA do they drink?

fits, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 14:23 (two months ago) link

xpost his brother is in the Lonely Island ... not that that changes your point, I don't imagine

alpine static, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 04:16 (two months ago) link

unless i don't know something ... which is entirely possible.

i am only paying attn to twitter a little bit right now (work at a hospital and day job is, uh, very busy) but i couldn't quite tell if ppl were clowning the publication or the band. or both?

if it's not marked as ad content that's pretty silly.

the whole thing is silly.

but there are a lot of old punks on the timeline touting their '94 tour in a brokedown econoline and acting like they wouldn't have jumped through fire at a chance to tour in that van!

alpine static, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 04:24 (two months ago) link

asa has written some of the lonely island’s music. he also co-wrote that big song by portugal the douchenozzle

maura, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 13:13 (two months ago) link

the band too ephemeral to be a real nemesis

absolute idiot liar uneducated person (mh), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:06 (two months ago) link

I think it was the timing more than anything, just with everything going on it seems even more vacuous and stupid

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:11 (two months ago) link

I mean, it's Business Insider

DJP, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:17 (two months ago) link

A colleague sent me a Business Insider link today, and it’s a “BI Prime” story (behind paywall) – which means he must actually subscribe(!?)

morrisp, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:08 (two months ago) link

lol

absolute idiot liar uneducated person (mh), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:09 (two months ago) link

I mean, it's Business Insider


^^^ why is this still being talked about

brimstead, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 18:19 (two months ago) link

paid content articles are going to be a rich vein for literary analysis in about three years

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 19:46 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande teamed up for "Rain On Me," an upbeat dance track where each singer takes a turn with a verse. They also sing together on some of the choruses. https://t.co/eap8R2kl0p

— USA TODAY (@USATODAY) May 23, 2020

Inadequate grass (morrisp), Sunday, 24 May 2020 20:31 (yesterday) link

(the tweet, dunno about the article)

Inadequate grass (morrisp), Sunday, 24 May 2020 20:31 (yesterday) link

"Both wear eye makeup."

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 24 May 2020 23:29 (yesterday) link

reminds me of NAME RELEVANT SONG FROM ANTI THAT MATCHES DESCRIPTION

dyl, Monday, 25 May 2020 00:07 (thirty-one minutes ago) link


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