Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

So many bullets dodged

would watch a movie of these bullets being dodged

a Len Deighton adaptation trilogy

He’s supposed to have a James Bond script done too. Would be very happy with Len Deighton though.

ha ha

Not the former publisher of Viz, I take it?

dude who gave up on the political process and tried to overthrow slavery personally through armed uprising and mass assassinations, convicted of treason and hung

Tarantino should still do all the things you list.

a little late for the Young Vega Brothers but Travolta could use a guiding hand again. he should definitely not write graphic novels. he should definitely come out of the upcoming retirement and make a bunch of horror movies when he gets bored.

xpost re ha ha

He’s supposed to have a James Bond script done too.

nah, he was trying to make Casino Royale before the Broccolis got the rights

he should pull a Malick and disappear, and hopefully in 20 years there won't be any more movies

Imagine if River Phoenix hooked up with Wes Anderson, Paul Thomas Anderson, even Tarantino (whatever you think of the guy).

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) March 18, 2019

Tarantino should remake Knight of Cups

For me, ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD didn't live up to the hype. Tarantino had the look and the sounds down, yet it seemed pointlessly impressionistic. The Manson kids get killed, but they didn't really. It just reminds you that the massacre happened. Revisionism has its limits. pic.twitter.com/mjOmibaJMj

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) August 18, 2019

Too Much Perrin Up In This Bitch!

xp. not necessarily a negative appraisal (and he went to the theatre to watch it to boot)

*shares tweet about movie i didn’t see*

i actually fully agree with denny p's assessment there, christ!

Brad plz dear stfu w/ your persnickety policing

did you end up seeing it, morbs?

Morbs has said many times that he will never see it, and yet he keeps persnicketily policing any reactions to it that don't accord with his imagined one

I detest its maker as a human; this is the most active thread about him

that last tweet was in response to jiv's, in the spirit of "don't fuck with a fucker"

wishing you all a sleepless night

yeah it's super annoying when ppl take up loads of space on a thread for something they'll never watch :) xp

"fixing" the Manson murders is a fucking aesthetic crime, I don't need to see it after the Basterds idiocy cuz IT'S THE SAME THING.

haven't seen it but you're making me want to

iirc you were very mad at ppl dismissing ready player one before they saw it bc the source material was nuclear garbage

i think the violence at the end of basterds and this film are v different just based on context, for one this movie is wayyyyyyy more intimate

otm

and unnecessary imo

Just watched this a second time. Yeah, still wildly fucking mediocre. Pitt has some good moments and the set design is fun. Ending remains cringe-level stupid. Don’t get the love for this thing at all, but I’ve disliked everything from IG (against popular opinion) on.

IG? Inglorious Basterds.

GREAT
Jackie Brown
Once Upon a Time

GOOD
Inglourious Basterds
Pulp Fiction
Kill Bill Vol. 1

AIIGHT
Death Proof
Kill Bill Vol. 2

NOT GOOD
Django Unchained

AWFUL
Reservoir Dogs
The Hateful Eight

otm though flip kill bills 1 and 2 and put death proof in good

I'd bump Hateful Eight above Django, and c'mon, Reservoir Dogs is good.

If Tarantino had only made Dogs, Morbs would have a very valid point.

GREAT
Jackie Brown
Inglourious Basterds
Kill Bill Vol. 2

GOOD
Pulp Fiction
Once Upon a Time
Kill Bill Vol. 1

AIIGHT
Reservoir Dogs
Django Unchained
The Hateful Eight

NOT GOOD
Death Proof

AWFUL
tbd

The dinner scene in Django is the only thing I'd save -- as tense as the Manson ranch scene in OUATIH later imo.

Jackie Brown and Reservoir Dogs are great, the new one and half of Pulp Fiction are good, most are alright, the Kill Bills weren't for me. No interest in Death Proof, still haven't seen Inglorious Bastards.

finally saw this b/c theaters are rescreening it this week. fun movie!

what strikes me about this film more than anything is how Tarantino's usual dialogue tics are mostly non-existent here, relying a bit more on easy natural-seeming banter and therefore the dialogue is arguably his best (though Jackie Brown had the benefit of some of Elmore Leonard's words). And unlike Death Proof/Django Unchained/Hateful Eight i was never bored, and it's vastly better than anything he's done since JB. Even when there are some moments of pop-culture namedropping it makes more sense and doesn't stop the momentum, and also frankly the cast here is the best he's had in eons.

the ending works for me, this fictional character Tarantino created stepping crudely into real history and altering the plans of these murderous idiots, and there's this brief moment at the end when Jay is calling up to Sharon at the house and Rick turns away from them with this mournful look on his face which I can only read as a wall-breaking acknowledgement of the actual history. the framing of him talking to Jay through the gate is particularly effective there. He gets a lot of emotion out of that, along with that final overhead shot of Rick walking to the house with Jay and greeting Sharon and the others.

The Spahn Ranch scene was, as stated before, completely masterful. Cliff sauntering through the place, knowing something is off almost immediately, building to him walking through the house, and as he's about to leave he sees the knife in the tire, and it continues to build up til we see the car peeling off. The knowledge of what happened at the ranch with other people, and the fact that virtually any fate could befall Cliff there, just makes the scene all the more tense.

I was furious at QT when I first saw it -- the gall of him saving the day through his art yet again -- but I can't stop thinking about this movie. It's really good no matter how mad it makes me.

probably his most genuinely personal film in a lot of ways -- i thought the entire thing worked, front to back. considering three of his previous four films were--high points in each aside--markedly a step below his best work, i was ready to be disappointed again, but it reaches some career heights in several areas and equals them everywhere else.

51 years ago today pic.twitter.com/9pwXGybwLx

— Anna Swanson (@annaswnsn) February 8, 2020

xp OTM

luke perry should have had the dicaprio role and vice versa.

i love luke perry but no way dude

After thinking on it I’ve decided the Bruce Lee in this film is another alternate universe character. He boasts about beating Ali and then is only so-so against Cliff, so he’s clearly not our Bruce Lee.

Same for the radio (and clemenza’s issues with its top fortiness) - this is a slightly different chart listing that what we got.

It’s all more relaxing that way. Also, in this universe, Steve McQueen wore a wig.

Anyone see the longer cut?

I don’t think it’s out there. There are about 20 min of deleted scenes on the disc but I haven’t watched them.

I was going to say, I don't think it's been released, just mentioned. The deleted scenes aren't exactly fascinating, though I've only watched once - still no Tim Roth. Some extra commercials, Rick singing "Green Door" on Hullabaloo, more of Bounty Law, extended scene when Charlie first visits Sharon Tate's house and a long conversation between Rick Dalton and Sam Wanamaker.

Same for the radio (and clemenza’s issues with its top fortiness) - this is a slightly different chart listing that what we got.

wild how Reel Radio's hundreds of hours of KHJ airchecks from the late 1960s managed to get transferred from this alternate universe too, right down to their imaginary disc jockeys

wasn’t talking to you

oh snap

lol

the fuckin, like... 15 seconds of the Joe Cocker cover of "The Letter" that plays when Cliff drives down Hollywood Boulevard the first time have been stuck in my head for a few weeks now.