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pomenitul, Friday, 17 January 2020 11:52 (eight months ago) link

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mark s, Sunday, 19 January 2020 20:20 (eight months ago) link

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mark s, Sunday, 19 January 2020 22:07 (eight months ago) link

edition peters ladies and gentlemen

(as far as i know the authentic score just consists of the word "tacet" three times in a row, for each of the three movements, but there are plenty of grifters out there)

mark s, Sunday, 19 January 2020 22:10 (eight months ago) link

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mark s, Monday, 20 January 2020 18:10 (eight months ago) link

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mark s, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 13:28 (eight months ago) link

A prime candidate for 'the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually still alive'.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 13:32 (eight months ago) link

he must be almost the last of the hardcore post-war darmstadt crew (i'm not sure if his work was actually performed at darmstadt back then but he studied in berlin in the mid-50s so i'm guessing yes)

mark s, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 13:58 (eight months ago) link

except for la monte i guess lol

mark s, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 13:59 (eight months ago) link

here is a score for every single piece by la monte young:

https://d4u3lqifjlxra.cloudfront.net/uploads/example/file/277/Double-ronde.jpg

mark s, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:01 (eight months ago) link

A quick search didn't dredge anything up. Crumb has always been his own man tbf.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:04 (eight months ago) link

Kind of unrelated, but I just had a flashback to Amazon customer Michael Birman's review of a 2006 DVD devoted to Pierre Boulez's music:

The second film, Sur Incises, directed by Andy Sommer, features a stunning performance of the piece following a lecture by Boulez in front of a predominantly young audience from the stage of the concert hall of the Cite de la Musique, one of France's many cultural complexes. Of course, one is immediately reminded of Leonard Bernstein's Young People's Concerts. Ironically, Boulez succeeded Bernstein as conductor of the New York Philharmonic in 1969. Boulez has combined concerts with impromptu lectures before. I attended all 7 evenings of the fantastic "Rug Concerts" series Boulez gave in 1973. He wanted to create an informal atmosphere in which to hear modern music, reducing the level of intimidation listeners often feel in a concert environment. We sat on pillows on stage: I weaseled my way next to the conductor, sitting at his feet, thrilled beyond measure. I even found myself sitting next to Shostakovich one memorable evening. He listened to a style of music he was probably forbidden by Soviet authorities to hear (and certainly compose) with rapt fascination and occasional amusement. The piece I recall most vividly that he found absorbing was the then recent (1970) George Crumb composition Ancient Voices of Children, with Jan DeGaetani the singer.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pierre-Boulez-Eclat-Sur-Incises/dp/B000E0VO1U

I want to believe.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:09 (eight months ago) link

xp the dutch wikipedia page i translated to further explore his time in berlin agrees with you: "There he got rid of new trends and went his own way"

mark s, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:12 (eight months ago) link

"this is your brain. this is your brain on rugs"

mark s, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:13 (eight months ago) link

A prime candidate for 'the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually still alive'.

― pomenitul, Tuesday, January 21, 2020 7:32 AM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

geez, no kidding

budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:30 (eight months ago) link

https://www.reddit.com/r/SheetMusicPorn/

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:36 (eight months ago) link

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pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:44 (eight months ago) link

pomenitul, Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:44 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This I need to hear, what is it?

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:48 (eight months ago) link

Here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUrfKBnQ9a4

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:51 (eight months ago) link

A more authoritative (I think) 'performance' for good measure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frqGuqaHcxE

pomenitul, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 14:55 (eight months ago) link

Thank you! Lol at the only comment underneath the latter.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 08:25 (eight months ago) link

Good catch, lol.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 08:28 (eight months ago) link

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pomenitul, Sunday, 26 January 2020 19:14 (eight months ago) link

together at last

mark s, Sunday, 26 January 2020 19:43 (eight months ago) link

the yasunao tone "anagram for strings" reminds me of a piece i read more than 40 years abt years ago and have never forgotten -- i thought in peter yates's "twentieth century music" but i just hunted and couldn't find it -- which is a piece where staves and note shapes are painted on four sides of an aquarium and black and white fsh swim in the aquarium, while four musicians sit on the four sides and play the notes they see when the fish swim exactly behind the note-shapes

it's from fluxus era and may well be a fluxus piece -- fluxus were very good at memorableness of concept!

mark s, Sunday, 26 January 2020 20:13 (eight months ago) link

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mark s, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 13:10 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

"a valentine", by christian wolff

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mark s, Friday, 14 February 2020 16:28 (seven months ago) link

Heh, didn't think he'd be the type.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Friday, 14 February 2020 16:49 (seven months ago) link

franco donatoni: concerto for 5 yamaha keyboards

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mark s, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 13:04 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1cYzGCWoAEwm8k?format=jpg

peter maxwell davies, eight songs for a mad king

mark s, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 12:02 (six months ago) link

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Arthur Russell (from a mini-exhibition on London a couple of years back)

Joris Stereo, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 12:31 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zIHKoKCTyI

mark s, Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:21 (five months ago) link

Heh heh heh.

coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:32 (five months ago) link

Some enterprising person needs to create an art book with these. No idea what most of them mean but can appreciate their aesthetic.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:35 (five months ago) link

that's p much that this is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notations

mark s, Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:47 (five months ago) link

Ooh, intriguing.

Immediately goes to Amazon to investigate. How much!?

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 11 April 2020 16:57 (five months ago) link

whoa! didn't know about that cage book. and i want it. badly. gotta highlight this 2005 amazon user review:

if it is possible for a composer to have a signature, then it is possible to be able to recognize the "voice", the "timbral signature" of a composer from what you see on the page, like a DNA configuration, you are what you are for what you become "magnetize" towards, some shape in music, genre, patterns, listening to telephone generators, or simply making money, lots of it,And if one comprehends this it is first seen in the musical language one employs, and the shapes,densities, distributed,conflated in the designs of melodic import,harmonies,registers, rhythms of graphics, someone like Stravinsky was interested in both while in Switzerland, I beleive Zurich he was travelling with Maurice Ravel, they happened into a bookshop where Stravisnky simply purchased a large bound book of blank pages, handsome paper heavyset. This became the 'Sketchbook' for the "Rite of Spring" done into different coloured inks to incourage Stravinsky's compositional process of re-arranging fragments(assemblage) of what he writes.

Cage has always been interested in notation for the pure challenge in it,what the line tells you,and in the 1950s, with the demise of serial music,Cage began doing his scores in graphic(s) notation,it was for a sense of linear and conceptual freedom,and the "Concert for Piano"(circa 1955) being the ultimate encyclopedic magnum citadel for graphics in music. It was not until in (1965-1967) Cornelius Cardew's "Treatise" where we find a work of similar scope, although for Cardew, "Treatise",done with impeccable craftsmenship was a score of 193 pages for improvisation, for AMM. For a number of years just about everyone was interested, fascinated by the Question "What is Notation?" and why do we need to write certain things in certain ways ignoring others. Of course if you simply wrote music without a bend toward the truly innovative,, the experimental strain,there never was a question,there was then the question of how to deal with complexity, which simply grew by leaps and bounds,irresepctive much of the time of the content or meaning, which we can still ponder.

This "Notations" originally published by the Something Else Press, and Dick Higgins (a post-Cage activist,Fluxus maverick)was a contribution to this quest, this Jabes-ian Question. For many the fascination with graphics was in the pre-compositional phases,like creating charts and pitch configurations, arrays,templates and harmony notebooks of intervallic import, mining the depths of the endless almost possibilities, of two-three-four, hexachords, tetra-chords.Today with the aid of the computer and fractal-like thinking this is commonplace. So this book reads like Joyce's "Finnegan's Wake" in many respects, the "Here Comes Everybody, for everbody seems to be here of those cadre within the post-war avant-garde. Cage simply wrote a letter to hundreds of composers asking to provide one sheet and one comment on what they think music notation is/was, should be,could be, and is not. The book is a wonderful ride through the avant-garde, and it is great compelling nourishment for the composer to see the various graphic icons, of someone's hand as Boulez's "Second Piano Sonata", or Carter's "Piano Concerto", Cardew's "Treatise", or Ralph Shapey,Stockhausen, Milton Babbitt, Christian Wolff,Frederic Rzewski, Roman Haubenstock Ramati, Bo Nilsson,Luigi Nono, Luciano Berio, and the Fluxus people are here as well, with the budding beginning of conceptual music, Dick Higgins, Nam June Paik,David Tudor,Alison Knowles,George Brecht,Giuseppi Ciardi,and other Europeans Peter Maxwell Davies,Jean-Claude Eloy,Pierre Schaffer, Luc Ferrari,Pierre Henry, George Maciunes,, Jackson Maclow(poet not composer), Franco Evangelisti,Dieter Schnebel,Henry Cowell, Virgil Thompson, Ben Johnston, Lou Harrison. . . Gerhard Stabler has done an update of this book "Notations" with the younger generation of composers represented.

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:17 (five months ago) link

something else also published richard meltzer's the aesthetics of rock: i think higgins taught meltzer at stony brook? anyway they were close for a while

(i writing something fluxus-adjacent earlier in the year and digging through a lot of this stuff)

mark s, Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:23 (five months ago) link

that's really neat! did you ever publish anything on it? would be really curious to see what nuggets you came up with

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:25 (five months ago) link

the book it's for is due out at the end of the year -- the essay is actually mainly about terry riley (who was in the fluxus circle for a while in the early 60s)

mark s, Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:28 (five months ago) link

cardew, the grebt learning

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mark s, Saturday, 18 April 2020 19:58 (five months ago) link

adriano guarnieri: nafshi for flute with tape

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mark s, Monday, 27 April 2020 17:55 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

carl bergstrøm-nielsen: strategies 3

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mark s, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 14:06 (one month ago) link

Not to de-rail more than avant spirit calls for: Somewhere in an issue of Frank Kogan's 80s-00 (so far) zine Why Music Sucks-Why Mildred Skis (etc.) somebody reports that Mom saw offspring's copy of Aesthetics of Rock and says that she went to Stony Brook with "Richie" Meltzer, where they were in a class taught by Allen Kaprow of Happenings fame, see good descriptions of those here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Kaprow.
Fluxus deserves at least one book---hope that's already happened---several intriguing bits, because Yoko, in Goldman's Lennon "bio," especially those involving xpost George Maciunes, whose freelance repairs supposedly disturbed the ecosystem of NYC building supers, city inspectors, and Goodfellas---making me think of DeNiro's guerrilla handyman in Brazil.

dow, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 17:49 (one month ago) link


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