Damon Lindelof's Watchmen

hbo should bring in someone else to do season 2 against lindelof’s wishes

you mean like Alan Moore?

don't think Moore would be interested

Xpost man you love spoiling joeks don't u

Lindelof has already "given" his "blessing" to do future seasons without him, so AT&T are being perfectly consistent in cancelling it

this is a major bummer. show was so good. but maybe this prevents it from inevitable decline.

enh I still think he'll do it a couple years down the line

Still think the finale was very disappointing, but not in a series-destroying way.

Really the worst lapse taste was that rawk cover of I am the walrus at the very end. A truly horrible decision

that was spooky tooth!

i was repeatedly surprised by this and liked it quite a bit up thru and culminating w the hooded justice ep, but as a corny dr. manhattan bro who loves a dr. manhattan performance was also waiting excitedly the whole time for dr. manhattan to appear. loved the reveal of dr. manhattan and texted tolerant friends screenshots all thru the dr. manhattan episode. then the show plummeted straight off a cliff as a direct result of the presence of dr. manhattan, like he was an anvil it had been tied to. if alan moore did curse the show that was the curse.

i don't blame the actor who played him here but Manhattan was pretty boring.

i guess that one mystery character they showed one, slippery pete or whatever he was called, the guy in the outfit going down the sewer drain...we'll never have any idea who that guy was.

maybe my irony detector is broken, but the ancillary materials made clear/explicit it was the agent

yes, petey is lubeman, this is canon

Yeah, it was canonically confirmed via the Peteypedia entry after the last episode.

slippery pete was a coincidental joke name that i now see was eerily accurate

(i forgot the agent's name and didn't read the ancillary materials)

iirc, "Lube Guy" was the name that picked up traction.

just very little bc of the lube

i think read that he included the lubeman bc this season emerged from lindelof's own obsession with the mystery of hooded justice's identity (which he built the season around) and he wanted to leave a mystery for others

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Because of "Watchmen." Decades of historians have been trying to let the world know about this massacre, and it took an alternate history comic book drama to break the wall of racism. IDK whether to laugh or cry, but let no one say fiction has no power in the real world. https://t.co/l7ixJN5JlQ

— N. K. Jemisin (@nkjemisin) February 20, 2020

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/watchmen-cast-coronavirus-psa-washmen-1203547415/

So now Lindelof is serially publishing an alternate reality time travel Hilary fanfic thing: https://nextdraft.com/something-something-something-murder/

sorry I mean Hillary.

streaming for free all this weekend: https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/06/hbo-watchmen-streaming-free-juneteenth/

Maybe I'll give this a shot...

Pretty great season of TV imo

Gonna try to watch this ifpi can figure out a way to stream on my TV

So it was fairly entertaining, perhaps a bit sillier than I was expecting, and lingered too much on flashbacks, but I appreciated how true it was to the original, even down to its approach to plotting, while building and expanding upon that world for the modern day. I do think it was clearly made with more seasons in mind, and it's a little disappointing they aren't continuing.

Also, this went right over my head

if you're all watching the Watchmen for free on HBO this weekend don't miss what the writers did here.

Happy Father's Day from Fred T and Sons. pic.twitter.com/2jYIkxaL9r

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) June 21, 2020

Powered through it all yesterday, goddman outstanding.

WATCHMEN (HBO, 2019) pic.twitter.com/mM8uYIFhAh

— Alan Sepinwall (@sepinwall) July 1, 2020

goddman outstanding

"Goddman" is the naked blue guy, yeah(?)

I really wish this season had stuck the landing, so much of it was so great

Same! Great buildup, and the finale was like a Heroes episode

omg that's exactly right

this needs to get another season if only to redeem itself from that

Alan Moore, who has not willingly written for DC Comics (bar one six-page 9/11 charity story in 2001) since the 1980s, due to their interference with and theft of his work, had their #1, #3, #5, #6 and #7 best-selling comics in 2019.

That year, DC had $20, $25, and $30 paperbacks of Watchmen in print with different covers, and $40 and $50 hardcovers of the same book.


(#4 was a YA book about Raven from Teen Titans, the other four were Batman comics, including the one that had his penis removed.)

I still don't get why he or his lawyer didn't insist that the Watchmen contract read, "until the comic goes out of print, or 5 years from now, whichever comes first" (or choose your own time period) -- if it was so important to him that the rights revert. I gather that the comics world is/was apparently... unique... in how it operated (still operates?); but the idea that a creator of any kind would trust a corporation not to follow the letter of a contract, but rather would stick to some vague notion of its "spirit," is hard to wrap my head around.

I’ll chip in some money if Alan wants to sue DC

Technically he didn’t even own the characters in the beginning right? Due to charleston. And did DC have any creator owned work then? What would the precedent be for them?

Not sure there were any other OGNs that DC was regularly reprinting in '85
I don't blame Moore for not seeing this loophole tbh

I would blame his lawyer (if he had one) - their job is to look for loopholes. "What if my client's comic is so successful, that it's the first to stay in print for decades?" It seems so obvious, coming from another field - add a timeframe. But again, I comics are weird special unique.

What a dumbass for not predicting something that had never happened before.

I'm not calling him a dumbass, I'm saying it seems his lawyer didn't look out for his interests if he trusted DC would let the book go out of print just because "they always have before, and why would this masterpiece be different."

the other four were Batman comics, including the one that had his penis removed

what a way to find out about this

did Bane do it?

Joker

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/goodcomics/2014/05/boner5.jpg

In related news, the DC comics app has a rotating carousel of series they recommend at the top and it currently features Promethea

Sorry, to be more exact: AT&T/Warner Media/Warner Bros./DC Comics have an application that features movies/tv/comics that has Promethea in a carousel of content

That DC acquisition of his ABC assets through Wildstorm must've really burned. You'd think he might have had the power to prevent that from happening that that point in his career, though.

DC would have told him to go pound sand before agreeing to a hard window with a rights reversion. They've never been big fans of giving creatives more power.