"Communism sounds great on paper - it just doesn't work in reality!" = most tedious line of conversation EVER?

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hugely relieved to scroll up itt and not find myself. now i will rob future-me of the same peace.

i feel like this should be the prologue to every post on ilx

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism_in_Kerala

Sund4r otm - this is pretty astonishing and underrated. Well I've never seen it mentioned before.

calzino, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link

*southwestern

One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link

Kerala is awesome

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link

also a long history of matriarchy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marumakkathayam

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link

I fear that the absolute control required for the dictatorship of the proletariat attracts fucked up authoritarian people like Stalin.

Bnad, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link

It wasn't a case of attracting Stalin - the dictatorship within a dictatorship was his very own marvellous pièce de résistance!

calzino, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link

although i know you on 2nd read of your post you aren't saying it wasn't tbf!

calzino, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

The southeastern Indian state of Kerala is probably the most successful irl application of Marxist socialism. It actually puzzles me that it doesn't get more discussion among Western leftists.

― One must put up barriers to keep oneself intact (Sund4r), Wednesday, January 15, 2020 3:31 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

their economy is not particularly socialist

flopson, Friday, 17 January 2020 03:47 (four years ago) link

"Sarcasm doesn't really translate over the internet".

It's almost as if sarcasm has existed in written form for centuries and you're just shit at parsing it

... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

tedious argument i've been seeing everywhere lately, any time someone brings up billionaires having billions of dollars: "net worth isn't the same thing as liquid capital though"

guess a lot of people just learned that jeff bezos doesn't literally have a hundred billion dollars in a capital one account

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link

a lot like the "communism sounds great on paper" and "the truth is somewhere in the middle" lines, half the time i think people just say these things because they heard other people say them and they want to say something, not because they're actually trying to make an argument

my fault for hanging around reddit/twitter

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

Love this essay (Tronti died a couple of weeks ago).

"Speaking for myself, I know that I would never have the freedom that I feel, inside myself, without having passed through, in my thought and my life, the historic experience of communism."

https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/a-message-from-the-emperor

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 August 2023 14:52 (eight months ago) link

admittedly I didn't know he was still alive, but I'm surprised I'm only hearing of his passing now

RIP

rob, Monday, 21 August 2023 14:58 (eight months ago) link

I don't have time to read this right now, but the Marx/Kafka thing is so perfect I can't believe I haven't encountered that before! thanks for posting this

rob, Monday, 21 August 2023 15:00 (eight months ago) link

Yes was laughing at the Marx-Kafka observation earlier. Great essay.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 August 2023 15:03 (eight months ago) link


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