The Battle of Mia Farrow's Creepy Exes: FRANK SINATRA vs. WOODY ALLEN

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Frank basically desegregated Las Vegas, whereas I'm not sure Woody knows what nonwhite people are.

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

Frank basically desegregated Las Vegas

ehh this is a stretch

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link

the racial patter w/ Sammy from some of the Rat Pack live recordings is less than sensitive

I'm not sure Woody knows what nonwhite people are

puts a lotta old jazz records on his soundtracks

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link

puts a lotta old jazz records on his soundtracks

A regular Woody E. B. DuBois.

The Traveling Wilkes-Barre's (PBKR), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link

Frank's racial politics are interesting - he was definitely committed to integration and, in particular, making sure his fellow musicians/entertainers were treated fairly, but he simultaneously held very common attitudes that we would describe today as racist: freely using epithets, stereotypes, etc. It was like he was against institutionalized discrimination and racially motivated hatred, but didn't see tossing around the n-word in a jocular manner as being as being an issue because hey different ethnic groups making fun of each other was no big deal.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link

listening to his frequent lapses into an "Amos and Andy" voice is genuinely painful

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link

classic "it's a joke, relaaaax, get a sense of humor!" guy

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

different ethnic groups making fun of each other was no big deal.

i grew up with this kind of humor tho w/in TV limits, usually

i take the 5th on any further discussion of its merits, but yay Uncle Floyd Show

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 17 January 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link


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