How many Country artists are in though?
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 January 2020 04:47 (four years ago) link
Nine Inch Nails leaves me cold and I don’t care about this Hall of Fame, but I know this much:
In 2019, Reznor and Ross received songwriting and production credits for the number-one single "Old Town Road" by Lil Nas X, which sampled their track "34 Ghosts IV" from Ghosts I-IV.[274] "Old Town Road" broke the record for most consecutive weeks at number one on the Billboard Hot 100.[275] As producers for the song, Reznor and Ross garnered a CMA Award nomination for the 'Musical Event Of The Year' award, along with Lil Nas X, featured artist Billy Ray Cyrus and producer YoungKio.[276]
― breastcrawl, Thursday, 16 January 2020 10:57 (four years ago) link
goddamnit every year i remember Blue Oyster Cult isn't in, what a bunch of bullshit
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 January 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link
rt
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link
It’s really bizarre that Depeche Mode and NIN (the aggro Depeche Mode) - both deserving - get in before Kraftwerk, but I guess that’s just sales figures. What I really wanna know is why Whitney gets in when Mariah Carey, a way more rock and roll artist at the end of the day and also objectively more popular, has never even been nominated. I mean, I know it’s because Mariah is still alive. But it’s still bullshit. And how was Outkast not even nominated? They’re a shoo-in, and they were eligible as of last fall.
― thewufs, Monday, 24 February 2020 04:24 (four years ago) link
Actually I’m pretty sure Outkast were eligible in 2018- “Player’s Ball” was a Christmas single. In 1993.
― thewufs, Monday, 24 February 2020 04:26 (four years ago) link
How is Mariah “objectively more popular” than Whitney? At a glance, looks like they’ve both sold between 200-250mm albums worldwide; can each claim impressive-sounding chart records; and have each won a ton of awards (though Whitney seems to have the edge there, as she apparently holds the Guinness Record for “most awarded female artist of all time”).
― Ticket Tout (morrisp), Monday, 24 February 2020 05:17 (four years ago) link
Having grown up with both, I feel like Whitney was always on a higher plane than Mariah in terms of status and perceived artistry. (Which is not to say that you are wrong about Whitney’s HoF honor owing largely to the fact that she is deceased; maybe that’s true, I have no idea.)
― Ticket Tout (morrisp), Monday, 24 February 2020 05:20 (four years ago) link
Also not sure I agree about OutKast being an immediate “shoo-in” upon eligibility, but whatever.
― Ticket Tout (morrisp), Monday, 24 February 2020 05:21 (four years ago) link
Postmortem, Whitney is bigger than Mariah if Spotify is the metric - which surprised me. I’m just talking about raw numbers with regard to hit singles and album sales. So I’m probably fudging the numbers a little bit. My read is that Whitney Houston had massive sales and basically no respect from critics before she died in 2012. Mariah Carey had equally massive numbers, equal critical disdain giving way to grudging respect in the late 90s and thereafter once she aligned herself with the hip hop nation. And once she went hip hop she never let go, never went back, never played it off like it was just a phase. She knew which way the wind was blowing.
― thewufs, Monday, 24 February 2020 05:36 (four years ago) link
To be fair I don’t think Whitney Houston ever had that luxury, whether due to colorism or any number of other circumstances beyond her control. But even if we’re limiting ourselves to the first 10 years of each singer’s career, Carey just flat-out had more good records.
― thewufs, Monday, 24 February 2020 05:42 (four years ago) link
Whitney still not getting a whole lot of respect, I see.
― breastcrawl, Monday, 24 February 2020 08:12 (four years ago) link
How is Todd Rundgren not in there? As a producer alone ... !
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link
i want him to get inducted and then for the HOF concert, an all-star band plays a 23 minute version of "Bang the Drum All Day"
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link
That sounds like work, which is anathema to the song's ethos.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link
it's not anathema if they're just banging drums
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 24 February 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
"Just" banging drums, gtfo with that. *You* bang on a drum for 23-minutes, it's hard work! There's a reason Ringo's All-Star Band tours with another drummer, and it's because Ringo doesn't want to work, because work is hard. Besides, imagine the drum union overtime fees alone!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 16:02 (four years ago) link
Hmm. Maybe if they switched off drummers, and limited the amount of banging each could do? There are a lot of drummers in the Hall of Fame. That could circumvent union policy *and* prevent anyone from doing too much work.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 16:05 (four years ago) link
*You* bang on a drum for 23-minutes, it's hard work!
he doesn't wanna work, he just wants to bang on the drum 'all day.' banging on a drum 'all day' is necessarily more work than banging on a drum for '23 minutes.' but that just what he wants to do.
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Monday, 24 February 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link
You ever heard anyone bang on a drum for 23 minutes? It might as well be all day. There's a reason I love Led Zeppelin but never listen to Zeppelin bootlegs.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link
I played the role of the pulse for a performance of In C and I just played quarter notes like a robot for way over 23 minutes it was quite relaxing tbh
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 24 February 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link
yeah banging a drum for 23 minutes is actually quite meditative
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 24 February 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link
that's pretty much my daily practice regime
xxpost But did you bang out those quarter notes, or just sort of gently tap them out?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link
i varied in intensity to create some dynamics, of course
that's pretty much my daily practice regimei play drums for 23 min straight all the time honestly, it's not that big of a deal! brad otm
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 24 February 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
Lol at any of you taking this seriously. Love you all.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link
You dorks.
Todd Rundgren is annoying af
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 February 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
^must be an EMPLOYER
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 24 February 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link
Proud of my nerdery!!Regarding Todd Rundgren I had a teacher in hs who was a superfan and decorated her room w photos of him, which was no small thing in the early 90s. I never understood it but appreciated her enthusiasm.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 24 February 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link
Like I said before, he deserves to be in for his production alone! New York Dolls, Badfinger, XTC, Psychedelic Furs, Grand Funk Railroad, Meat Loaf, many of whom had huge or unlikely hits with him behind the boards.
As a solo artist ... "Something/Anything" is pretty cool, not that familiar with everything else.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
I don't have the list in front of me or anything but I'm guessing if I looked at great rock producers who should be in the hall of fame who aren't Rundgren wouldn't be top 20
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 February 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link
Yeah, but I bet many of them are in the hall already!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link
Though just looking now it seems that Eno isn't in, and has been eligible since 1999. So yeah, stupid rock hall is stupid, it's a no-win.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 February 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link
The Shawn Cassidy album he produced is tight!!
― brimstead, Monday, 24 February 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link
Rundgren